Bogus Dave
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« Reply #45 on: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 14:47:19 » |
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No, somebody should make their decision based on first hand experiences of their own, and not propaganda and hyperbole from either side of the atheism debate.
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« Reply #46 on: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 14:49:49 » |
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What does atheism have to do with being wary of cults and scammers?
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« Reply #47 on: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 14:50:32 » |
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So somebody should allow their 12 year old daughter to go because they might not be as weird as the rest?
Something like what Dave said. My point was that the only way to find out what they're like is to go and see for yourself. |
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« Reply #48 on: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 14:50:58 » |
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What does atheism have to do with being wary of cults?
So it is now a cult? Will it all turn out like Waco? |
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« Reply #49 on: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 14:53:06 » |
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What does atheism have to do with being wary of cults and scammers?
I think the fact you're labelling the whole movement as a cult, based on two you tube clips and a wikipeadia article, displays exactly what atheism has to do with it. |
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« Reply #50 on: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 14:55:51 » |
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I think the fact you're labelling the whole movement as a cult, based on two you tube clips and a wikipeadia article, displays exactly what atheism has to do with it.
no it doesn't |
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« Reply #51 on: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 14:59:09 » |
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If wiggy wants to go along and check out then fine, although I would suggest that their actions so far have already been quite inappropriate.
I'm expressing caution against something that appears, at the best, weird. I can't quite understand the objections to that. How many on here would willingly send their children to something that they are unsure about?
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« Reply #52 on: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 15:02:29 » |
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If wiggy wants to go along and check out then fine, although I would suggest that their actions so far have already been quite inappropriate.
I'm expressing caution against something that appears, at the best, weird. I can't quite understand the objections to that. How many on here would willingly send their children to something that they are unsure about?
I agree that the actions of the parent were in appropriate, not sure the people at the church have done anything wrong. As for expressing caution, it sounds more like you've totally written them off as a fanatical cult already, without any first hand evidence. If you went, and came back with the same opinion, then I'd respect that. By all means continue to express caution. You're right to do so. |
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« Reply #53 on: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 15:03:19 » |
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Right from the trowbridge vineyard church's site itself. Healing On The Streets
Healing on the Streets (or HOTS as we call it) is an opportunity to go out into the local community and practically demonstrate the love of God by offering to pray for those in need. We have had the privalage of praying for people from all walks of life. Some people claim to have experienced physical healing, a breakthrough in difficult personal circumstances, and a sense of peace and reassurance. This emerging ministry is open to anyone from the vineyard who has completed the necessary training .Our team simply takes out a few chairs into the local town centre, on a Saturday. We then invite the Holy Spirit to minister and to those who wish to be prayed for. http://westwiltsvineyard.com/communityAction/Damn me and my suspicions |
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« Reply #54 on: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 15:04:41 » |
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Again, I don't think you've proven they're doing anything wrong. I often have my own suspicions about miracle healings, but you're jumping to conclusions here. |
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« Reply #55 on: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 15:09:20 » |
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Damn me and my suspicions Why are you getting your khakis in a twist about something that isn't your problem? It's wiggy's kid, let him deal with it how he wants. |
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« Reply #56 on: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 15:14:01 » |
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Why are you getting your khakis in a twist about something that isn't your problem?
It's wiggy's kid, let him deal with it how he wants.
Eh? Wiggy started a thread asking about them, to which I gave evidence showing that they are apparently a bunch of nuts. Other people are getting the khakis in a twist because they don't like that. Am I supposed to not give (seemingly correct) answers just in-case somebody doesn't like it? |
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« Reply #57 on: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 15:18:09 » |
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I'd imagine wiggy was more hoping that someone would have first hand knowledge, not just formed an opinion on them based on a selected information they'd read on the internet.
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« Reply #58 on: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 15:22:56 » |
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Up to you mate............
This HOTS (healing on the streets) thing they do, they do up and down the country. they say so on their very own regional websites and most clearly state that it involves physical healing akin to what is in the videos. Google is your friend. If that's OK with you then that's OK with you, there plenty more in the internet.
I'll leave it there. I'll be more mindful next time I try to help.
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« Reply #59 on: Wednesday, January 25, 2012, 15:38:05 » |
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When you post a thread asking about stuff like this on an internet forum you're going to get all sorts of opinions.I don't think you're likely to an unbiased opinion no matter.They sound to me like they might think Dinosaurs are from 1000 years ago and the earths only 5000 years old.I'm basing this entirely on nothing more than an American sounding name haha.
Flasheart you have nothing to apologise for.
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