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« Reply #5025 on: Monday, February 18, 2019, 17:59:25 »

Italy is a bad example.  They've been in kick the sandals off and chill mode since the fall of the Roman Empire, barring a brief flirtation with Fascism.
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« Reply #5026 on: Monday, February 18, 2019, 18:22:57 »

Italy is a bad example.  They've been in kick the sandals off and chill mode since the fall of the Roman Empire, barring a brief flirtation with Fascism.

A bad example? No, an example. Everyone’s own differing opinions will decide whether it is a good or bad example. Wait till their financial situation implodes, then you’ll see the real Italy.
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« Reply #5027 on: Monday, February 18, 2019, 20:24:50 »

A bad example? No, an example. Everyone’s own differing opinions will decide whether it is a good or bad example. Wait till their financial situation implodes, then you’ll see the real Italy.

It's tricky to know what the real Italy is, after all it's only existed for a couple of hundred years and in it's early years under Garibaldi had to fight to maintain integrity, from Austrian and French occupation.

Garibaldi though was popular in GB, for his internationalism and socialist outlook, (socialism with a small s)

He ws so popular in GB that we named a biscuit after him.   Garibaldi, was also a believer that European unity was the way forward, a situation that still applies in Italy today.
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« Reply #5028 on: Monday, February 18, 2019, 20:28:13 »

Next time there is a vote here what happens when neither of them get any?

We get Finland?
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« Reply #5029 on: Monday, February 18, 2019, 20:34:33 »

It's tricky to know what the real Italy is, after all it's only existed for a couple of hundred years and in it's early years under Garibaldi had to fight to maintain integrity, from Austrian and French occupation.

Garibaldi though was popular in GB, for his internationalism and socialist outlook, (socialism with a small s)

He ws so popular in GB that we named a biscuit after him.   Garibaldi, was also a believer that European unity was the way forward, a situation that still applies in Italy today.

I’m not sure I agree with your last sentence. Have you read Yanis Varoufakis ‘and the weak suffer what they must’? Or his other tome ‘adults in the room’?
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« Reply #5030 on: Monday, February 18, 2019, 20:46:53 »

I’m not sure I agree with your last sentence.

Doubtless there are many in Italy, who see unity as involving right wing populists, but they still see things in a European context.  So we see Salvini, cuddling up to Orban, and the Polish Law and Justice Party, with an agenda to move the EU to the right.
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