The late evening thread....

[flammableBen]

Its nothing to do with being in the states, I've never slept well when drunk. I must be a freak or something, which wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

Dr. F. Ben prescribes a litre of vodka. To be drank next time you don't have work the next day. Or even if you do have work. The prescription says "do it".

[flammableBen]

On the situation/intention of the immigrant.

Without wanting to sound like a Daily Mail reader, I don't think it would be feasible to allow absolutely anyone "in". However, immigration laws are hard to enforce ethically.

I think all the whites should fuck off home though.

Immigrants are people who come here to work, and by working they pay taxes. How can you have a problem with that?

 Especially with the natural population of the UK getting older, there aren't enough young natively born British people to carry the tax burden of the impending pension crisis. Or any services for people beyond a working age.

Would you prefer that we cut down on public services or benefits such as the NHS/Pensions etc. or allow more people to come in to fill holes in our economy and pay tax?

I be fishing for an argument a bit, but it would be nice to have a sensible discussion with someone.

[axs]

as long as you kick them out before they claim a state pension then alls well.

[flammableBen]

if they stay paying tax then they are entitled to their pension.

[axs]

yes, if they work for a certain amount of time to earn it, if they move here when they are 59 then we are subsidising it.

[Gelbfüßler]

I'm thinking more from an over-population angle.

[axs]

as a property owner its a good thing, more demand for housing keeps prices on the increase. as soon as immigration laws or interest rates kick in then house prices will level off or even fall.

[flammableBen]

yes, if they work for a certain amount of time to earn it, if they move here when they are 59 then we are subsidising it.

That would be a massive minority though, the majority of immigrant come here young to earn some money. Especially recently with the new countries let into the EU. And as their countries get economically stronger due to joining the EU, a big proportion will head back having paid more tax than they ever received in public services.

[axs]

and fair play to them, i'd do the same.

[pumbaa]

Its nothing to do with being in the states, I've never slept well when drunk. I must be a freak or something, which wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

Dr. F. Ben prescribes a litre of vodka. To be drank next time you don't have work the next day. Or even if you do have work. The prescription says "do it".

Ace! Not much Vodka left. Is Southern Comfort an adequate substitute?

[axs]

as long as it's 40% it counts.

[flammableBen]

I'm thinking more from an over-population angle.

Overpopulation in what way? The thing which keeps house prices buoyant?

[pumbaa]

I'm trying desperately hard to not drink tonight, but you bastards are challenging my resolve....

[Gelbfüßler]

Is it not sometimes the case though, that immigrants from poorer countries sent a large percentage of their earnings back to their families outside the UK, subsequently harming the economy (fair play, I'd do the same). You can't base your entire argument on paying taxes, because in a free market economy this would cause rises in unemployment.

[axs]

sorry not trying to lead you on.


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