Sturrock: Takeover Will Not Benefit the club

[STFC Village]

NIMBY = Not In My Back Yard, ie the people who wanted a new stadium for STFC, when the proposals for Shaw Tip were first released, but didn't want it anywhere near them

Oops  

Got my terminology confused. I didn't mean nimby as in the way you said, I meant clueless moron.

What a NIMBY!

[SwindonTartanArmy]

Sharkey I just cant understand how you can be impartial it has gone beyond that for the majority of fans.  I dont think stability is an argument, what worries me is these guys are out for themselves talk of moving our beloved club away from the town makes me angry and worried.  There is no argument, 1 week there telling us they have failed to make a CVA payment and are re-negotiating to delay the payment as there not in a position to pay it at the moment and then the next there employing 3 new people (Holt, Boyd and Bowden), so 3 new salaries that somehow we can now afford, including an expensive consultant from Reading, you want balanced discussion please explain this as I may be missing something?? is this the same board that also sacked/let go Linda Burrell as they couldnt afford her salary.  Sharkey come along to a trust meeting dont fear change, what these guys are trying to achieve is fantastic, these guys all love the club are all pulling together and have some great ideas, read the manifesto, read the ground plans this is not a bunch of cowboys they all have good knowledge and skills, plus Mike Wilks business knowhow and Phil Emmel & Bill Powers financial backing this consortium is going places.  This isnt the time for burying our heads in the sand for stability this is decision time either we want a club or we dont want, there is only one future and that is with the consortium and I for one am right behind those guys bring on the Orange Revolution  

Spot on. PS Get back to work!

[fatbury]

We have to trust THE POWER! and pray he helps get us out of the current mess  

[Sharky]

Aty present I dont back the consortium, nor do i back the board .....
I will back whomever appears to be able to show the rest of us fans that no little about the how deal, that they are the right ones to be backing.

at the minute all i see is a mimic of the party politics in this country with both so concerned to put a dampener on the other that they forget the real way to succeed is have good policies and plans and to show these to the public or fans so that they are supported.

I still await to be won over personally but at present I will continue to look towards my own course of action in trying to help the club.

[STFC Village]

They never said that the COULD NOT make the payment, they always said they had the money but felt (After being advised by the Accreditor) that they could delay payment to be made with the final installment.....hence make interest on the £100K on account rather than through it at the problem.

What a load of old arse! IF YOU HAVE THE MONEY, PAY IT, YOU DON'T GAMBLE WITH THE CLUBS FUTURE!

[stfctownenda]

1 week there telling us they have failed to make a CVA payment and are re-negotiating to delay the payment as there not in a position to pay it

Once more I struggle to understand how peoples words can be so misinterpreted and wonder if that is not why we are in the position we are now?

They never said that the COULD NOT make the payment, they always said they had the money but felt (After being advised by the Accreditor) that they could delay payment to be made with the final installment.....hence make interest on the £100K on account rather than through it at the problem.

If you have a deadline for something tobedone for tomorrow and you rush to get it done in time and then at the last minute you are told by the guy who the deadline is for that you can have until next week if you would like, would you hand in the first attempt regardless or would you not spend the next week trying to make what you did better seeing as you now have more time to do it??

I think the point really is that the situation should not have really arisen in the first place.....if there was no CVA to pay then there would likely be no takeover talks and no attempt to move the club forward....regardless they do have the £100K and probably now some interest, but the main point is how best to be able to pay the rest of the CVA.....

If the consortium is the way forward then so be it, but I dnt see the need to slag off the board when people can just get on with trying to provide a better alternative and leave the bickering to the kids.

Is the money still in place to pay the CVA with the additional salaries on our board now?? are you aware that when you dont pay a CVA they are playing russian roulette with our club if even one creditor calls in a winding up order then we have no club, hows that for stability? how about tne mud slanging from the club your quick to criticise the people on here how about them constantly attacking the trust, you need to grasp the facts from both sides because from what I can tell you are only looking at it from one sides, why not do your research on the trust and consortiums proposals and come back with a constructive argument because the stability angle just isnt working for me.

[Sharky]

They never said that the COULD NOT make the payment, they always said they had the money but felt (After being advised by the Accreditor) that they could delay payment to be made with the final installment.....hence make interest on the £100K on account rather than through it at the problem.

What a load of old arse! IF YOU HAVE THE MONEY, PAY IT, YOU DON'T GAMBLE WITH THE CLUBS FUTURE!

from what i understand the guy that told them they may be able to delay it works for the people we are paying so how is it a gamble......

[Sharky]

1 week there telling us they have failed to make a CVA payment and are re-negotiating to delay the payment as there not in a position to pay it

Once more I struggle to understand how peoples words can be so misinterpreted and wonder if that is not why we are in the position we are now?

They never said that the COULD NOT make the payment, they always said they had the money but felt (After being advised by the Accreditor) that they could delay payment to be made with the final installment.....hence make interest on the £100K on account rather than through it at the problem.

If you have a deadline for something tobedone for tomorrow and you rush to get it done in time and then at the last minute you are told by the guy who the deadline is for that you can have until next week if you would like, would you hand in the first attempt regardless or would you not spend the next week trying to make what you did better seeing as you now have more time to do it??

I think the point really is that the situation should not have really arisen in the first place.....if there was no CVA to pay then there would likely be no takeover talks and no attempt to move the club forward....regardless they do have the £100K and probably now some interest, but the main point is how best to be able to pay the rest of the CVA.....

If the consortium is the way forward then so be it, but I dnt see the need to slag off the board when people can just get on with trying to provide a better alternative and leave the bickering to the kids.

Is the money still in place to pay the CVA with the additional salaries on our board now?? are you aware that when you dont pay a CVA they are playing russian roulette with our club if even one creditor calls in a winding up order then we have no club, hows that for stability? how about tne mud slanging from the club your quick to criticise the people on here how about them constantly attacking the trust, you need to grasp the facts from both sides because from what I can tell you are only looking at it from one sides, why not do your research on the trust and consortiums proposals and come back with a constructive argument because the stability angle just isnt working for me.

I'm sorry you dont think I have taken this seriously from both angles but I assure you I have as its in my interest to do so....

I remain sceptical about both avenues and urge people to not forget that there are other alternatives to both the consortium or the current board.

[SwindonTartanArmy]

They never said that the COULD NOT make the payment, they always said they had the money but felt (After being advised by the Accreditor) that they could delay payment to be made with the final installment.....hence make interest on the £100K on account rather than through it at the problem.

What a load of old arse! IF YOU HAVE THE MONEY, PAY IT, YOU DON'T GAMBLE WITH THE CLUBS FUTURE!

from what i understand the guy that told them they may be able to delay it works for the people we are paying so how is it a gamble......

BECUASE YOU SHOULDNT FUCK AROUND WITH PAYMENTS TO INLAND REVENUE OR CVA CREDITORS! :roll:

[STFC Village]

The only truth this board have told, is that they can't afford to pay the CVA. They're going to have to wait awhile 'til they build up that much interest on.... sweet fuck all

[stfctownenda]

1 week there telling us they have failed to make a CVA payment and are re-negotiating to delay the payment as there not in a position to pay it

Once more I struggle to understand how peoples words can be so misinterpreted and wonder if that is not why we are in the position we are now?

They never said that the COULD NOT make the payment, they always said they had the money but felt (After being advised by the Accreditor) that they could delay payment to be made with the final installment.....hence make interest on the £100K on account rather than through it at the problem.

If you have a deadline for something tobedone for tomorrow and you rush to get it done in time and then at the last minute you are told by the guy who the deadline is for that you can have until next week if you would like, would you hand in the first attempt regardless or would you not spend the next week trying to make what you did better seeing as you now have more time to do it??

I think the point really is that the situation should not have really arisen in the first place.....if there was no CVA to pay then there would likely be no takeover talks and no attempt to move the club forward....regardless they do have the £100K and probably now some interest, but the main point is how best to be able to pay the rest of the CVA.....

If the consortium is the way forward then so be it, but I dnt see the need to slag off the board when people can just get on with trying to provide a better alternative and leave the bickering to the kids.

Is the money still in place to pay the CVA with the additional salaries on our board now?? are you aware that when you dont pay a CVA they are playing russian roulette with our club if even one creditor calls in a winding up order then we have no club, hows that for stability? how about tne mud slanging from the club your quick to criticise the people on here how about them constantly attacking the trust, you need to grasp the facts from both sides because from what I can tell you are only looking at it from one sides, why not do your research on the trust and consortiums proposals and come back with a constructive argument because the stability angle just isnt working for me.

I'm sorry you dont think I have taken this seriously from both angles but I assure you I have as its in my interest to do so....

I remain sceptical about both avenues and urge people to not forget that there are other alternatives to both the consortium or the current board.

To simplify it we have Bill Power a guy who was involved in a plane crash and was so overwhelmed by the response of get well cards from Swindon fans after his plane crash he felt he owed yes OWED us to come back and take the football club forward on the other side we have the Wills family who feel we OWE them for there years of cashflow, I for one will not be held to ransom by them, they have taken us as far as they come its time for them to gracefully step aside and let us move on as a club, as I said yesterday the current regime must understand players, managers and even board members come and go fans are forever and we will not let them take out club  :evil:

[Samdy Gray]

I'm sorry you dont think I have taken this seriously from both angles but I assure you I have as its in my interest to do so....

So you're either associated with the board, the creditors or the administrator. Which is it?

[Arriba]

one thing that does worry me slightly is that some members of the trust seem to know alot more than other supporters.
i dont think its a major issue at present but it could develop into one possibly?
surely fans will ask why they are entitiled to hold information from them when they are basically equals

[Roddy_Radiation]

I would never stand in the way of a better regime coming in

Are you in a position to stand in the way, if so what position is that?

I remain sceptical about both avenues and urge people to not forget that there are other alternatives to both the consortium or the current board.

Can you tell me what these alternatives are?

[red macca]

one thing that does worry me slightly is that some members of the trust seem to know alot more than other supporters.
i dont think its a major issue at present but it could develop into one possibly?
surely fans will ask why they are entitiled to hold information from them when they are basically equals

i do agree with that arriba.i must admit the nudge nudge wink wink does get to me a bit.When it was announced that it was bill power who was interested i was slighly pissed off about the amount of people who came out and  said thank fuck i can say something now etc

never mind though im sure they have the right reasons for not saying anything