people make up your minds

[Narbs]

so i'm childish for asking questions of the board,fine.
i'll let people read the posts and judge whos shouting their mouth off.
i still think you are a misguided fool.and being ignorant is something i am not ,but you are entitled to your opinion as is everyone. i just disagree with you.
no need to get arsey

No I feel you are childish for the fact that you have given your opinion, and as soon as somebody comes up with other opinions that dont match yours you start getting arsey,

Ok so Im a misguided fool for supporting the footbal club of the town I grew up in and yes will go on supporting whatever league we are in, and if we get a new ground or not will continue to support them and keep going to watch them week in and week out and spending my hard earned cash supporting them ,    Ive made up my own opinions of the club  but dont decide to spout them off as they are just my opinion.


Arriba I would like to point out this is the The Townend Forum,
the town end is part of the county ground where Swindon Town Fc play ( well they show up every now and again) and most people who come on this forum are Swindon Town supporters, and so I have to say that everybody on this Forum you are all misguided idiots as per Arriba 20/03/2006.

P.s. Toys have now all been replaced into my pram as I cant afford any new ones as the ticket prices at the CG are so dam expensive   he he he

[Arriba]

i havn't got arsey at all.i have disagreed with people and if i think they are wrong will argue my point.
i have not questioned your loyalty to swindon town at all and your passion for the club is creditable. also i have not called everyone on this forum a misguided idiot but some in my opinion are .you are making wild assumptions now and it aint doing you any favours.
i do like to rant and rave about issues but dont get so upset by it.its the way i am.i've clearly touched a nerve but we all have the same goals for stfc to prosper.
peoples opinions will always be different and thats what forums are about.
agree with me or not i aint bothered and i will continue to post what i think and would encourage everyone to do so.
i know some think i talk rubbish and thats fine by me,i love debating the issues and will continue to do so.
i have followed the town for over 20 years like you,my grandad was a devoted supporter and my son plays for the centre of exellence.
i only want what is best for stfc,and hope my worries about the board are proven to be incorrect.

[DV]

the problem is, we've answered all your questions....challenged all of your points and you still chose to ignore most of them.

You think like you do, which is fair enough but you seem to be stuck in that opinion and nothing [however logical and sensical(is that a word?)] will change it.

[Arriba]

you have given answers that you think are right but i disagree with alot of it,i haven't ignored the points you have made.
i hope to be proven wrong for the sake of stfc

[Simon Pieman]

the board can shove their stupid, unrealistic stadium plans up their arses

So what are the plans then? You seem to know a lot more than the rest of us.

[DV]

you have given answers that you think are right but i disagree with alot of it,i haven't ignored the points you have made.
i hope to be proven wrong for the sake of stfc

Yes, but you were always going to disagree with my answers no matter how truthful or correct they were.

[reeves4england]

Go back to Page 1. DV85 answered all of your questions as well as anybody can on this forum. Shut up and accept it.

[Ironside]

My post is much more accurate that your shower of shite trust me on that!

The club cant not redeveloped the cricket club, it is classed as open space and the central ward is already at the minimum quote. Plus they have a much longer lease than the football club and do not want to move, we cant make them.

The club needs to fund development another way other than planning on building houses on ground which they cant touch.

I dont know what the board are doing but I expect they are looking at this..

Class it as bullshit all you want, just because I dont agree with you doesnt mean I am wrong, infact the opposite.

Why dont you come to the next trust meeting and ask all these questions....or the next fans forum (if there is one?!)

I've felt the same as you arriba, but I personally took time out and clued myself up on the issues.....

Both the Cricket and Athletic clubs have publicly stated (both times reported in the bAdver) that they would be willing to move from the CG site, provided facilities were of equal or superior standard to those that they currently have.

[Ironside]

Arriba, the money would still be raised through sale of residential development.

The clubs original proposals did include the whole site, Council look unlikely to budge on their demand that anything beyond the Arkells can't be touched, as you say.

Developing on the current plot though is still viable.  The clubs original proposal was for housing (fairly well spaced out housing as well) not appartments.

Recent developments or proposals from other clubs suggest Appartments are an alternative form of funding when space is tight - Orient raised £7m from corner developments on the ground, Norwich sold a plot of land for £6m to build Appartments on and Rovers have cubmitted £16m-£20m proposals financed solely by developing flats on site (in much less space than we have).

The good news is that Orient lease their ground from the Council, so a blueprint does exist to finance a Council owned stadium via onsite development.

Local residents are generally less worried about a development that doesn't infringe on the Cricket Pitch, Athletics and Extension.

Councillors are less worried about land giveaway because it can be used within the term of the lease the club would hold.

An opportunity may also exist to move a large chunk of the Oasis facilities into the development, which would also garner support from the Council.

Basically, the plot available is still able to support a development of substantial size (in financial terms) and it's possible to hazard a guess that around £15-£20m could be realised from the site we are allowed to use.  It would involve the proposals being changed, yes, but the club have expressed publicily that they would be willing to do so.

There isn't enough room to incorporate housing, corporate, retail and leisure facilities into the space your talking about Rob unless we're looking at a Monaco type development with pitch on the roof.

[DV]

My post is much more accurate that your shower of shite trust me on that!

The club cant not redeveloped the cricket club, it is classed as open space and the central ward is already at the minimum quote. Plus they have a much longer lease than the football club and do not want to move, we cant make them.

The club needs to fund development another way other than planning on building houses on ground which they cant touch.

I dont know what the board are doing but I expect they are looking at this..

Class it as bullshit all you want, just because I dont agree with you doesnt mean I am wrong, infact the opposite.

Why dont you come to the next trust meeting and ask all these questions....or the next fans forum (if there is one?!)

I've felt the same as you arriba, but I personally took time out and clued myself up on the issues.....

Both the Cricket and Athletic clubs have publicly stated (both times reported in the bAdver) that they would be willing to move from the CG site, provided facilities were of equal or superior standard to those that they currently have.

That bit is true enough....however if we were to move the Cricket Club, the current Cricket Club would have to stay as open space. Houses could not be built on there.

Finding another site for the Cricket Club is easier said than done (but I expect someone has looked at other options) because of the time it takes. Crickt Club, even if they are found a new home they wont be leaving their current one for at least 2 years.

The current cricket pitch doesnt have sufficent space for an ambulance I believe, which means they can only host a certain league level of cricket, again find a new home with sufficent space and they'll jump at the chance.

But, certainly with the previous proposal the problem is, that the cricket club and athletics track sites have to stay as open space therefore can not be replaced with houses.

[DV]

Arriba, the money would still be raised through sale of residential development.

The clubs original proposals did include the whole site, Council look unlikely to budge on their demand that anything beyond the Arkells can't be touched, as you say.

Developing on the current plot though is still viable.  The clubs original proposal was for housing (fairly well spaced out housing as well) not appartments.

Recent developments or proposals from other clubs suggest Appartments are an alternative form of funding when space is tight - Orient raised £7m from corner developments on the ground, Norwich sold a plot of land for £6m to build Appartments on and Rovers have cubmitted £16m-£20m proposals financed solely by developing flats on site (in much less space than we have).

The good news is that Orient lease their ground from the Council, so a blueprint does exist to finance a Council owned stadium via onsite development.

Local residents are generally less worried about a development that doesn't infringe on the Cricket Pitch, Athletics and Extension.

Councillors are less worried about land giveaway because it can be used within the term of the lease the club would hold.

An opportunity may also exist to move a large chunk of the Oasis facilities into the development, which would also garner support from the Council.

Basically, the plot available is still able to support a development of substantial size (in financial terms) and it's possible to hazard a guess that around £15-£20m could be realised from the site we are allowed to use.  It would involve the proposals being changed, yes, but the club have expressed publicily that they would be willing to do so.

There isn't enough room to incorporate housing, corporate, retail and leisure facilities into the space your talking about Rob unless we're looking at a Monaco type development with pitch on the roof.

The current footprint is a decent enough size. Infact alot more than you might think....actually you couldnt fit housing in but you could apartments instead....

[RobertT]

Bristol Rovers are proposing just such a development on a site the size of our current ground plus a few metres extra all the way around.

We have a big plot of land on the car park, by the magic roundabout and around the back of the Arkells.  In Sq Metres terms a 5-7 floor development is quite big.  It won't bring in £25m plus, and you'd scale back on "new" development, but you'd still be able to achieve the goals of the development.

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

i dont see whats wrong with extending the Town End, doing up the Arkells, putting a roof on the bank and then adding a few more seats to the Nationwide and giving it a lick of paint! 20,000 seater, modern and simple!

[Dazzza]

Anyone have a breakdown of the current list of shareholders?

What is the number in circulation and the present majority shareholding?

[Asher]

Have to head to companies house mate.