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Title: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: townforever on Saturday, November 9, 2013, 10:59:07
So seeing as Samsung are piss poor (I have an S3 which they have failed to repair 4 times)

I hoping for recommendations for a new dog and bone.... anything that isnt a Samsung.... any suggestions as all I can see are phones with integrated battery's (currently I have a desktop charger and a spare Battery)

Like the Nexus 5 has anyone got one and are they any good??

 


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Chubbs on Saturday, November 9, 2013, 11:38:07
iphone 5

close thread


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Berniman on Saturday, November 9, 2013, 16:57:55
iphone 5

close thread

Agree


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Simon Pieman on Saturday, November 9, 2013, 17:21:43
otanswell recently got a Nexus 5 and says it's the mutts nuts.



Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Saturday, November 9, 2013, 20:50:02
Agree

 :nod:


Title: Re: Re: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Only Me on Sunday, November 10, 2013, 04:35:36
iphone 5

close thread

Pros and cons are required rather than your answer.

It will be difficult to assess the reasoning and make an educated decision without this, bar the fact you think iphone 5 is yhe best


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Sunday, November 10, 2013, 06:33:42
iPhone 5 pros...

Slim, sleek, light, very good on 4G (if you have it), decent camera, very responsive.

Cons....battery life could be better.


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Jimmy Glass is an Alien on Sunday, November 10, 2013, 08:19:52
Cons....battery life could be better.

I find battery life a lot better on my 5s then my 4s. Even so my experience on smartphones is that the battery is generally a bugger if you play on them all day long!


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Sunday, November 10, 2013, 09:31:50
Payg or contract? IPhone isn't my thing but screw paying the apple tax for an iPhone on payg.


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Barry Scott on Sunday, November 10, 2013, 13:02:04
iPhone if you're speaking to an Apple fan, Android (Nexus 5, S4, HTC One) if you're speaking to an Android fan.

/thread


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Chubbs on Sunday, November 10, 2013, 19:59:25
Pros and cons are required rather than your answer.

It will be difficult to assess the reasoning and make an educated decision without this, bar the fact you think iphone 5 is yhe best

disagree


Title: Re: Re: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Only Me on Monday, November 11, 2013, 01:44:02
disagree
Well, you are wrong with your disagreement


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Berniman on Monday, November 11, 2013, 11:46:10
Well, you are wrong with your disagreement

Well you are wrong to disagree with his disagreement.


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, November 11, 2013, 12:10:41
I think all this Apple vs Android willy waving stuff is utter bollocks.

Apple make things nice and simple if you are not particularly adventurous with your electronic devices. I bought a couple of 3GS for my wife and sone and they are really chuffed with them (I've got to find a couple more now for the other kids!). Wouldn't pay the money for a new one as I don't think they are worth it. Also think everything else has caught up and in some cases surpassed the iphone.

Androids are more adaptable and better for those who want to play behind the scenes and want to play games and videos. Samsung Galaxy S4 looks like a monster of a phone/game centre/mini cinema but it has a monster of a price!

I, and my kids, have cheap Androids. We dont watch video or play games and do anything that stretches them too much. I make calls, send and receive texts and emails and browse the web. What more do I need!


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 11, 2013, 15:25:36
My point was that iPhones on PAYG are very expensive. You can get as powerful/more powerful phones for half the price (or less) if you can get used to the Android OS.

If its bundled in contract then its a different game, horses for courses and all that.


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: 4D on Monday, November 11, 2013, 15:42:44
Do you want a phone that just makes calls? I had a 10 type phone on loan whilst my smart phone was being fixed. I thought something was wrong with it because the battery indicator didn't move from full, and this was after a week! My phone does all I need and was free on contract. I couldn't justify paying 400-500 on a phone, nor would I pay 50 a month on a contract. Then again I'm over 20.  :)


Title: Re: Re: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Only Me on Monday, November 11, 2013, 16:25:24
Well you are wrong to disagree with his disagreement.
::)


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Baggins on Monday, November 11, 2013, 21:12:59
I think its interesting how some machines - phones, laptops, TVs, cars - inspire people to develop strong opinions and affinities, whereas others - ovens, toasters, washing machines, fridge freezers don't.  I can't imagine a thread like this about fridge freezers.  Imagine it - the great BEKO v Hotpoint debate. 

Age coming through again.  Search for phones that do all the things you need from it.  Get the cheapest one.  Realise its a phone, not a "lifestyle choice" and get some friends. 


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Monday, November 11, 2013, 21:19:59
Agree. Although I do fancy an iphone 3GS for myself. I really like the shape and the fact that is seems to be better than my 150 (a year ago) Huawei.

P.S. Washing machines have gotta be Miele! Ovens, probably Bosch (at least the hob anyway), while Beko do some efficient tumble dryers.


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Ironside on Monday, November 11, 2013, 21:23:24
I just bought an HTC One 64gb and it's fucking awesome. Fantastic build quality too.


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: LucienSanchez on Monday, November 11, 2013, 22:01:52
Agree. Although I do fancy an iphone 3GS for myself. I really like the shape and the fact that is seems to be better than my 150 (a year ago) Huawei.

P.S. Washing machines have gotta be Miele! Ovens, probably Bosch (at least the hob anyway), while Beko do some efficient tumble dryers.


pppfffttt, gas hobs all the way


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Berniman on Monday, November 11, 2013, 23:42:58
Even though I am an Iphone user, I did try Android with the HTC one and couldn't get on with it.  (I have been Iphone right from the start.)  Having said that, the HTC one was a top piece of kit.  If I could have got IOS 7 on the HTC One I would have gone with that, other phone makers have caught up hardware wise, it's just Android I think is very wooly and more complicated than it needs to be.

::)

Oh lighten up you mardy twat.


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 12, 2013, 01:12:26
pppfffttt, gas hobs all the way
Bosch make gas hobs.


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Simon Pieman on Tuesday, November 12, 2013, 21:24:26
I briefly used a friend's iPhone the other day and I didn't have a clue how the fuck anything worked. If I got one I'd have to learn how to use it, just like any other phone or anything else for that matter.

I remember trying to figure out the different menu systems when I changed phones from Nokia, Panasonic, Sony Ericsson, LG, HTC (Android with Sense UI), Samsung (Android with TouchWiz UI).


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: jutty274 on Tuesday, November 12, 2013, 22:23:43
I have just got the Nokia lumia 925. The camera is awesome, it is a windows phone so is easy to use. The downside is that there isn't the range of apps for it.


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: jonny72 on Tuesday, November 12, 2013, 23:29:41
I briefly used a friend's iPhone the other day and I didn't have a clue how the fuck anything worked. If I got one I'd have to learn how to use it, just like any other phone or anything else for that matter.

There are plenty of things you can knock Apple for, but complicated user interfaces isn't one of them. Main reason people find Apple OS's complicated is that they're so used to some convoluted method to perform the most basic of task that they don't actually try the simple and obvious way. I was the same when I switched from Windows to Mac OS.


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 00:28:51
I wasn't knocking Apple or the user interface. I was also suggesting that I wouldn't be so bone ideal about getting used to it should I get one.

Same as a Windows phone really. Haven't even seen a working example in the flesh, but I bet it'd be piss easy to pick up.


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: slinky on Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 00:48:31
Same as a Windows phone really. Haven't even seen a working example in the flesh, but I bet it'd be piss easy to pick up.

Yeah piss easy to pick up they don't weigh much at all. 


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 14:35:37
Can anyone recommend a galaxy note 2?


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 15:08:06
I have just got the Nokia lumia 925. The camera is awesome, it is a windows phone so is easy to use. The downside is that there isn't the range of apps for it.

Is that the one with the tree trillion megapixel camera. How many photos can you fit into it ?



Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 15:44:04
I know it's the gadget show and they aren't the most reliable source, but there was a piece this week on smartphones.  Stupid test but worth a watch.  They compare IOS7/Android/Windows as well as Iphone/LG/Nokia.

Surprisingly the LG won the test.

http://gadgetshow.channel5.com/gadget-show/blog/series-18-episode-5-smartphones


Title: Re:
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 16:04:52
Apple must have ended their sponsorship of the gadget show then :)


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Berniman on Wednesday, November 13, 2013, 23:45:53
Apple must have ended their sponsorship of the gadget show then :)

Yeah that's what I thought when they didn't win. :)


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, November 14, 2013, 00:24:59
Wonder what this Motorola Moto G is like for 135 ?


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: jutty274 on Thursday, November 14, 2013, 00:33:34
Is that the one with the tree trillion megapixel camera. How many photos can you fit into it ?


no just 16 megapixel but it does 7 pictures at once so you can pick the best one, you can swap the faces from one shot to another. It is so simple to use as well.


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Jimmy Quimm on Saturday, July 25, 2020, 16:41:23
Has anybody got or used the Huawei P30 lite if so it any good


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: bamboohoomyavatar on Saturday, July 25, 2020, 23:36:11
Has anybody got or used the Huawei P30 lite if so it any good

I have a P30 Pro. All the P30 (and P20) models have a google licence so you will effectively get two OS in one (Android 10 & EMUI 10... .130 something update has just gone out in the UK too). The P40s still have no google licence which may be an issue for some. Bar a few tweaks and a couple of extra features. My P30 Pro does just as much, if not more than the P40 Pro, especially for a UK or US customer.

If a P30 Pro is out of your price range (monthly or outright) then instead of the lite, I would go for the P20 Pro. Pretty much everything bar the RAM and storage space is very similar (I think the P20 Pro is 6GB RAM and 128GB Storage, the P30 lite is 8GB RAM and less storage but haven't checked so may be wrong) and it has one camera less but then the argument would be, just how many cameras does a phone need? But yes, the P20 Pro will give you more bang than a P30 lite.

I use mine fairly optimally for work on the go. The camera(s) whilst not better than most new DSLRs do produce some awesome results and I do use this when I happen to have left the camera behind. The manual mode works for me as it is near enough to like setting up a DSLR. Not 100% what you are wanting to purchase the phone for though as today they are multi-use devices. As I say, take what you want from the above but overall if you can't afford the P30 Pro or for some reason want the P40 Pro (strange for western customer to choose this currently). I would definitely advise going for the P20 Pro instead. I don't think you would be disappointed.

What would you be leaving behind if going over to Huawei?


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Jimmy Quimm on Sunday, July 26, 2020, 00:39:04
I have a P30 Pro. All the P30 (and P20) models have a google licence so you will effectively get two OS in one (Android 10 & EMUI 10... .130 something update has just gone out in the UK too). The P40s still have no google licence which may be an issue for some. Bar a few tweaks and a couple of extra features. My P30 Pro does just as much, if not more than the P40 Pro, especially for a UK or US customer.

If a P30 Pro is out of your price range (monthly or outright) then instead of the lite, I would go for the P20 Pro. Pretty much everything bar the RAM and storage space is very similar (I think the P20 Pro is 6GB RAM and 128GB Storage, the P30 lite is 8GB RAM and less storage but haven't checked so may be wrong) and it has one camera less but then the argument would be, just how many cameras does a phone need? But yes, the P20 Pro will give you more bang than a P30 lite.

I use mine fairly optimally for work on the go. The camera(s) whilst not better than most new DSLRs do produce some awesome results and I do use this when I happen to have left the camera behind. The manual mode works for me as it is near enough to like setting up a DSLR. Not 100% what you are wanting to purchase the phone for though as today they are multi-use devices. As I say, take what you want from the above but overall if you can't afford the P30 Pro or for some reason want the P40 Pro (strange for western customer to choose this currently). I would definitely advise going for the P20 Pro instead. I don't think you would be disappointed.

What would you be leaving behind if going over to Huawei?

Many thanks for the detailed reply it's much appreciated. I had an iPhone 6s but the battery was terrible then a Samsung A40 which is ok but over heats and out of guarantee.
The latest P30 lite has 256 gb and 6gb ram but if I could get a 20 pro on a budget of 250-270"I would buy one.
PS just checked the prices and around 350 so more than I want to spend


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: bamboohoomyavatar on Sunday, July 26, 2020, 03:40:01
Ahh ok, was only thinking of the P30 lite against P20 Pro. Forgetting that they bought out enhanced versions of 30 lite (NE) & 30 Pro (NE). Infact, I kinda got lucky because when my 30 Pro shipped it was supposedly the slightly older one but when it arrived, I had the NE. So bonus on my part.

I personally feel that the P20 Pro has more longevity and better overall features than the P30 lite (NE). In some ways, it may not matter too much because Huawei are pretty kind on rolling out their updates to a vast range of models. Both of these will receive almost identical updates.

Where of course the difference matters is in pure RAM and processor. For phones they are pretty decent at this end but the P20 Pro still wins. The P30 Pro is like this in a similar vein with the P40/P40 Pro (as well as previous other OS advances over the newer model). The P30 lite only runs on Kirin 710, whereas the P20 Pro is on K970 (the P30 Pro runs K980) and the both have 6GB RAM. Whilst the lite has 256gb of internal and the Pro has 128gb, once the lite start filling up to max, that K710 will show and your performance will dip. Where the Pro will maintain a good level of optimum behavior with minimal lag.

The cameras, have differing values but the Pro wins overall. with 40, 20 and 8 on the rear and 24mp on the front. The Lite has 48 , 8, and 2 on the rear and 32 on the front. Pro wins because, when it comes to AI Processing, again this is due to the better Kirin. But lets also remember that Megapixels alone don't make the best images.

Battery wise, the Pro will go longer as has the same 4000mAh and fast charge as 22.5W. The lite is 3300mAh w fast 18W. You'll struggle to get a full day with medium to heavy usage. These are both bettered by the P30 Pro 4200mAh and SFC 40W (think it can take the 60W too) Superfast. But you can see why the P20 Pro has good longevity. Its processor and battery capacity nearly match the 30Pro and out perform the 30lite. This is awesome considering the Pro is already 2yrs old.

Price point wise, I was sure the 20Pro and lite were pretty evenly matched at around that 350. You could probably get it down to around 300 if you shopped around or checked out a few cashback sites. 300 for the 20Pro is decent value and worth the 30 stretch. With the updates, I'd say the 20Pro will get the 10.1 and when the 11 comes along that will probably be it's last one. So, likely a good 2/3rs with fully updated support. The P30 lite may get one update further (let's say 11.0123, as opposed to 11.093) but poss just a final patch. If I'd bought the 20Pro in 2018, I'd be pretty impressed with a phone keeping up with the "better" ones for 5yrs and by 2022 the P30 Pro or 40 Pro would've dropped in price to snag one of them at a good price.

If you go on Wish, you can get a P30 Pro 8GB + 512GB (apparently) all for just 89. You may end up with just a very pricey box though. In any case, all of the above will outperform most iPhones. Whilst the Samsungs do process a tiny bit quicker (for relevant/comparable devices) there is not much to choose from, so then it's more down to familiarity, brand loyalty (ey?), Team Korea, Team China, Team America (World Police) or whatever.

I probs should've DM'd as this is, in good old "me" fashion, rather a long response but when someone wants a hand deciding, it's always good to have a good chunk of the info all in one place. I'll keep a look out for price fluctuations but you could also consider a refurb? There are some virtually minted versions of "used" phones out there and it's not from Craigy down the Greyhound, who puts the orders in for cheap bottles of Bolly and 200 Marlboro.

Anyhoo, hope this helps in some way and you can be better informed going forward.


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, July 26, 2020, 06:45:30
For that budget I note the Motorola G8. I've had a couple in the series and they have been really good. I currently use a G6, which is a 'hand me down' from my son. Does everything I need.


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: jevs on Monday, July 27, 2020, 09:39:29
I've had a Huawei P30 for a while and would recommend it, but I haven't used the lite version. If you are looking to buy a phone on a budget the Moto G range are excellent, I bought one a few generations back after breaking a contract phone and you really couldn't fault it for the price.

If you want another iphone, you can currently pick up an X from 22 per month (plus 100 up front minus 50 cashback). Not my thing, but my daughter's Apple obsessed so I've been looking recently.


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: pauld on Monday, July 27, 2020, 11:33:18
OnePlus have launched OnePlus Nord, a more moderately priced phone to sit beneath their standard line (which used to be budget but have moved up the price spectrum as they try to be "flagship-beaters"). It's around 350 I think, not tried one myself but it seems to be getting good reviews and their standard line is excellent (I have a OnePlus 7T and love it). The missus has had Motorola G* budget phones in the past and they've all been superb value for money.


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Jimmy Quimm on Monday, July 27, 2020, 12:02:02
Ahh ok, was only thinking of the P30 lite against P20 Pro. Forgetting that they bought out enhanced versions of 30 lite (NE) & 30 Pro (NE). Infact, I kinda got lucky because when my 30 Pro shipped it was supposedly the slightly older one but when it arrived, I had the NE. So bonus on my part.

I personally feel that the P20 Pro has more longevity and better overall features than the P30 lite (NE). In some ways, it may not matter too much because Huawei are pretty kind on rolling out their updates to a vast range of models. Both of these will receive almost identical updates.

Where of course the difference matters is in pure RAM and processor. For phones they are pretty decent at this end but the P20 Pro still wins. The P30 Pro is like this in a similar vein with the P40/P40 Pro (as well as previous other OS advances over the newer model). The P30 lite only runs on Kirin 710, whereas the P20 Pro is on K970 (the P30 Pro runs K980) and the both have 6GB RAM. Whilst the lite has 256gb of internal and the Pro has 128gb, once the lite start filling up to max, that K710 will show and your performance will dip. Where the Pro will maintain a good level of optimum behavior with minimal lag.

The cameras, have differing values but the Pro wins overall. with 40, 20 and 8 on the rear and 24mp on the front. The Lite has 48 , 8, and 2 on the rear and 32 on the front. Pro wins because, when it comes to AI Processing, again this is due to the better Kirin. But lets also remember that Megapixels alone don't make the best images.

Battery wise, the Pro will go longer as has the same 4000mAh and fast charge as 22.5W. The lite is 3300mAh w fast 18W. You'll struggle to get a full day with medium to heavy usage. These are both bettered by the P30 Pro 4200mAh and SFC 40W (think it can take the 60W too) Superfast. But you can see why the P20 Pro has good longevity. Its processor and battery capacity nearly match the 30Pro and out perform the 30lite. This is awesome considering the Pro is already 2yrs old.

Price point wise, I was sure the 20Pro and lite were pretty evenly matched at around that 350. You could probably get it down to around 300 if you shopped around or checked out a few cashback sites. 300 for the 20Pro is decent value and worth the 30 stretch. With the updates, I'd say the 20Pro will get the 10.1 and when the 11 comes along that will probably be it's last one. So, likely a good 2/3rs with fully updated support. The P30 lite may get one update further (let's say 11.0123, as opposed to 11.093) but poss just a final patch. If I'd bought the 20Pro in 2018, I'd be pretty impressed with a phone keeping up with the "better" ones for 5yrs and by 2022 the P30 Pro or 40 Pro would've dropped in price to snag one of them at a good price.

If you go on Wish, you can get a P30 Pro 8GB + 512GB (apparently) all for just 89. You may end up with just a very pricey box though. In any case, all of the above will outperform most iPhones. Whilst the Samsungs do process a tiny bit quicker (for relevant/comparable devices) there is not much to choose from, so then it's more down to familiarity, brand loyalty (ey?), Team Korea, Team China, Team America (World Police) or whatever.

I probs should've DM'd as this is, in good old "me" fashion, rather a long response but when someone wants a hand deciding, it's always good to have a good chunk of the info all in one place. I'll keep a look out for price fluctuations but you could also consider a refurb? There are some virtually minted versions of "used" phones out there and it's not from Craigy down the Greyhound, who puts the orders in for cheap bottles of Bolly and 200 Marlboro.

Anyhoo, hope this helps in some way and you can be better informed going forward.



Many thanks again for tami g the time to collaborate a decent reply
Huawei 20Pro 380
Honor 20 280
New P30 Lite with 256gb storage 250
Lots to ponder




Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, July 27, 2020, 12:15:02
Oppo Reno 2z is another to consider


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Chubbs on Monday, July 27, 2020, 12:24:11
OnePlus have launched OnePlus Nord, a more moderately priced phone to sit beneath their standard line (which used to be budget but have moved up the price spectrum as they try to be "flagship-beaters"). It's around 350 I think, not tried one myself but it seems to be getting good reviews and their standard line is excellent (I have a OnePlus 7T and love it). The missus has had Motorola G* budget phones in the past and they've all been superb value for money.

Defo one plus for the oneplus. Never owned one but have used them on a few occasion and they are cracking phones


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: Jimmy Quimm on Monday, July 27, 2020, 12:41:25
Defo one plus for the oneplus. Never owned one but have used them on a few occasion and they are cracking phones

Which model we talking about?


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: bamboohoomyavatar on Monday, July 27, 2020, 13:29:02
You're welcome Jimmy.

Will mirror the comments on Oppo Reno and OnePlus series. Xiaomi Redmi would probably be pretty good also. Think the Redmi 9 is about 200 atm.

Can't speak personally for the Moto G. My last Moto was the Razr. Regardless of gen though, my memory is they've always had good screens (strength and colours). I'd take those comments on the G as decent advice too.

I was detailing the Huawei ones as didn't want you to spend similar and end up with less out of it. With so many models around it is easy to end up with a "lesser" model but paying more. Similar to as I suggested to Arriba re cameras.

Also part of the reason JJ is the first person I ask on here about laptops as he's on the money for spec to price ratio. Literally :)


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: pauld on Monday, July 27, 2020, 14:04:07
Which model we talking about?
I have the OnePlus 7T, not the current model (which is the 8 ) but a great phone, from what I can see from the reviews I think the Nord is actually a better phone albeit with slightly less memory (6Gb v 8gb) and half the storage (64gb vs 128gb). I think there's two price points here: budget, which is around the 200 quid mark which is where the Motorolas and Xiaomi phones would slot in; and mid-range which is around 350-400 odd which is where the OnePlus and Oppo Reno phones would fit. TBH you can still get a hell of a lot of phone for your money in the "budget" range these days.


Title: Re: Help Choosing a new phone
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, July 27, 2020, 14:46:22
Nokia 8.1 - best budget phone on the market imo