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Time for the latest in the recent run of 'Must Win, Most Important Game Of The Season.'

Last time out, Walsall scored 3 away from home yet still ended up losing at Huddersfield. It's not going to be easy.

If Billy and Charlie find their scoring boots we'll win. If, like Colchester and Exeter, they don't, we won't.

3-1 Swindon, with SSP scoring Walsall's late consolation.

Any win will do....1-0 own goal,three points would really put us in the mix.
It really is the big one today.

Won't be up today, will do Brentford instead

So come on Town do us proud

3-0 Charlie hat trick(It's got to happen soon right?)

hopefully we find the net early today should be able to control it after that 2-0

Stating the obvious but must win today.

I'd start with 3 up top, so we do get an early goal.

Another 1 1. (pericard)

1-2 Walsall

we could do with another game where it all goes for us like tranmere at home.2-0

I've got a feeling we'll win this, but it'll be a lot closer than it should be. If we better Colchesters result today I think thats our playoff spot pretty much secure! Charlton and Leeds have tough games today as well so 3 points could also put us right back into the automatic promotion mix.

If we better Col U's result we have a confirmed play-off place. We'd be more than 9 points ahead with 3 to play and Saints won't be able to catch us either.

0-1 defeat 7,786 crowd

I'd like to see Big Kev back in the team today - think he's better going forward than Darby, so we'd be more of an attacking threat. Think it'll be a close game but as long as we take the lead, we should be fine...

I am going to go for a 2-1 Town win, Austin to put us 1 up before Walsall get back on level terms.  Chasing the game Wilson throw's Pericard on and he grabs the winner after unleashing a 25 yard howitzer in front of the Town End.

And yes, I would also start King Kev instead of Darby, who has done nothing wrong but personally I think Kev is better going forward.

Danny Wilson's Danny Wilson.

He sure is.

Really?

Thanks for the clarification.

3-1 Town, Charlie and Billy to score, 7,896 and I think I may have one of those lovely burgers

I think the frustration of the last two games where we've done everything but score (94th minute o.g equaliser v Exeter notwithstanding) will be released today. On the other hand, I don't see Walsall coming for a draw as they can't go up or down and they gave it a right good go at Udders the other night.

With these things in mind I am predicting a totally mental game.

6-3 Town

Austin 2, Paynter 2, Douglas, Sheehan

As has been mentioned elsewhere, Amankwa needs to start ahead of Darby (who has been excellent but does not bomb forward like big Kev and that is what we need today)

I have never seen us win 6-3. I've seen a 5-3 and a 6-4. When did we last win 6-3, if ever?

Reg? Dave?

3-2 Town

Walsall have nothing to play for and aren't in fantastic form

On paper this is our easiest game of the run in

I think our chances of 2nd place are well and truly gone.

Wouldn't be surprised to see a surprise result today. Want a win, but don't think we'll get one.

2-0 to us

In which case it won't be much of a surprise, surely? I reckon we'll nick a nervy 1-goal win 2-1. Going posh today with Banbury's lot (minus Banbury obviously) so I'll wave a lordly vol au vent at you all

Douglas to finally score and a Billy Paynter penalty.
Vincent sent off for them.
8,207 crowd.

7,000 !!!????

We had 9 k against tranmere, 8,700 against exeter on monday. Millwall loosing will only boost todays attendance, coupled with glorious weather will be pushing 10,000 IMHO

i tried a burger from the van by the Arkells stand on Monday, very tasty and was piping hot!  ;D

i hope your right!

Must win game today. An early goal would be nice.

I hope you are right.

RED AND WHITE ARMY, RED AND WHITE ARMY :D

Couldn't ask for better opposition than a side in mid-table.

Hard fought game but Swindon coming out comfortable winners.

Gillingham not to lose against Leeds is also a confident prediction.

Any win today is a good result - 3 points is all that matters.
We could do with Norwich beating Charlton, or at least holding them to a draw. Our best hope of Leeds dropping points is likely to be in their last 3 games. I expect them to win today but you never know, the pikies are ok at home so could take something.

2-0 Town. JPM and big Kev to own Vincent

4-2, another Oldhamesque game.

2-1, BP penalty and Ferry 18 yd drive, Deeney to equalise in between for them, in front of 9689

2-1 town Douglas and Austin for us and  deeney for them.

Got to get a good result today and get back to our best, 4-0 Austin, Paynter, Nouble 2!!! come on you reds!!!

Only a win is acceptable really. Walsall have nothing to play for, we do.

Signing on from Chicago......Come On Swindon.

Missing Corporate today and spoke to my Brother (4am this Morning US time) whilst he was on his way to the train station............and no doubt a few beers.

Life is crap sometimes but a SWindon win would help me today.

To all of you STFC fans out there..........Miss you all and proud to be Red together.
Hope I'm not turning into a Yank.

Cheer up you miserable twat, things could be much worse 8)

An Oxford Season Ticket Holder.....

Exactly!

Interesting new collaboration with Manchester City coming to fruition.

We are going to formalise some links with them for next season according to Mr Fitton.

I love Andrew Fitton.


FACT!

I just can't get enough.

Fantastic 80's cheese.

Missing Mark O'D again in the studio, its just not right without him.

What's up next, Katrina and the Waves then Cyndi Lauper.

I remember listening out for score updates from a New York hotel room once.  The 10am kick off felt so wrong.

Need a win.  Score?  Who cares?  Not me.  As long as we score at least one more goal than they do.

And come on you Jills.

Come on the Town -here we go

Very surprised Amankwaah didn't start instead of Darby today.

Surprise surprise STFC Player not working FFS!

Working for me.

Try switching to Walsall commentary and then back again.

Got it-cheers BR

Couldnt go today as i have a chest infection-how shit! I think we will snatch a 1-0 win Greer to score

Not a problem mate, I am still using your account after all :)

Vieira scores...........













GOAL: Ebbsfleet United 1-0 Gateshead : Vieira (2)

Gillingham have scored :D

gills 1 leeds 0

Get in!!

Have a friend at that game supporting the Gills today.  They're desperate for the points.

come on the Gills -beat those Leeds wankers

Hi chaps! Bit late.

What was that about links to Man City?

But I fucking hate Gillingscum!What a dilemma

Mr Fitton wants to set up official links with them, he has been up there as guest of Man City (as well as Celtic) and has made ammicable links with them that will be advantageous to both clubs.

Come on town!!! Gills are all over lids they just hit the post

But no details of what the links might be?

MontyPython' Meaning of Life.

"Part I: The Miracle Of Birth"

Second part, The Third World.


Yorkshire

Hartlepool beating Colchester, a gap is opening up to 7th place.

If scores stay the same we have guaranteed a play-off position.

Fuck me. Listening to Vic and Phil King is like Hinge and fucking Bracket! They keep going in on about Charlie Austin like he's not scored for 10 games!  ..."Ooooh, he just needs to scuff one in, he's going through one of those spells that all strikers go through"......etc It's only two cunting games he's not scored for lads!

Revell just scored again.

Absofuckinglutely

gills 2 nil up

Come on Jills!!!!!!!!!!!!

Revell scores again

Gills 2-0 Lids

Pity we don't seem to be able to score!

"As in "X gives it away" or "X caught in possession", you mean?

Our centre backs are being spit-roasted.

Most of the squad good enough for the Championship, my arse."

If only we had a striker like him.

3-0 hahahaha

Vic: "Swindon could do with a goal"


NO SHIT SHERLOCK! :sherlock:

3-0 Gillingscum

Come on town!!!!!

COME ON YOU MOTHER FUCKERS GET THE BALL IN THE PISSING NET!!!!!!!

norwich winning, if we ever need a goal its now! Come on you reds!!!

Charlton losing!

That's it.  Leeds have folded.  If we don't grab this chance now, we don't deserve to go up.  Three points or bust.

Charlton losing

waccoe has gone into meltdown, its ace!

Come on, with lids and charlton losing, this is a great chance to capitalise

Wycombe winning at MK..they'll be going at it hell for leather next week ???

I was hoping they would already be down when we play them but they still have a chance of staying up especially as they are winning today :(

That's its normal state 8)

come on town, this is our chance!!

FFS Swindon don't fuck up again!

I'm going to scream any minute now....

We're not doing this the easy way, are we.  Same old Swindon.

DOH!!!

Oh fucking dear!

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :cunt: :cunt: :cunt: :cunt: :cunt:

Fucking Leeds' scored.

FFFFFFucking hell

Cuthbert fuck up according to Kingy

FFS! We have to win!

This is fucking shit

Take Painter and Austin off and bring Nouble and Pericard on !!!!

I think that either

A) We will dick them

or

B) We have done a Leeds and bottled it.

We are obviously bottlers!!

What an opportunity and then...

Boo.

Still a whole 45 minutes left though.

Come on Swindon!

As we know, as soon as we go behind we dont win, now would be a great time to change that! Espescially with Leeds and Charlton losing!

I cannot believe we are bottling it again, God help us in the play-offs!! If they can't handle the pressure then we have no fucking chance!

Again?

Yeah we had a chance last weekend and on Monday and we are doing it again today.

And why is it that we can never win when we go behind?? Something is obviously wrong because that is just ridiculous, Don't we have a Plan B?

We have to win one game season going one goal down, 2700 seconds to go.

Danny needs to let off a few fireworks in the dressing room.  Come on Town.  Time to show what you're made of.

This is Exeter all over again isn't it!  :smack:

O,K lads do you really want it, do you want to achieve something in your professional careers, you are going to have to live with the next forty-five minutes for the rest of your lives.  If anyone doesn't believe we are going to win 3:1, I will sub you right now.  This is the time to be counted, the next forty-five minutes may define the entire season.  No get out  there and win this game.

This really is our last chance, Let's hope they fucking take it!!

 :dito:

Unleash the hounds from hell on them Danny!

Waccoe are praying, "come on walsall, pull us out of the sh*t"

Swindon Expects.

Leeds' fans are probably pissing themselves, Their losing but know that when we go behind we just don't win!

COME ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111

Last Tango in Paris

Give them 15 mins or bring Pericard on.  Dont bring him on with 5 mins to go.

Need to go our and batter them for the first 10 mins and get a quick equaliser.  At least we know we have players who can score.  Not the time for stage fright right now though.

He didn't bring him on until very late in the game against Exeter.

I'd go 20, but if anyone is not having a good afternoon, off they go.  I would have Manky warming up if nothing happens after 10 minutes.

Amankwa should have played from the start. Deffo.

So how are we playing?  Are we creating anything?

YESSSSS

GET THE FUCK IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THANK FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

CHARLEY CHARLES!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fucking yesssssss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have guests all of whom I have just scared the shite out of.

GET THE FUCK IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Come
on Town!!!

Come on get the win.

well played come on the swindon

It's a start.  That goal was worth a point.  The next is worth 2.

Sounds like we well on top now

We just created something 8)

you're a hoot!

Ferry off Timlin on

Timlin on for Ferry ::)

TIMLIN ON-FUCKING HELL-EASTON,SURELY!

What??? Very baffling.

Ferry off, sounds like an injury. Timlin on.

Get it on target Sheehan you cunt!

From Waccoe:

Fuck off Swindon

Classic 8)

C'mon! We need that second goal bloody soon!!!

Whats the link to this waccoe site ?

Sitting in work in Glasgow . . .
Waiting for a Paynter double.    :artist:

 :pope:

www.waccoe.com

http://www.waccoe.com/index.php?showtopic=180488&st=300

Fucking hell Vic dont do that!

Do you think we are trying to put the ball too close to the corner? The last 3 games we seem to keep fizzing it wide.

JUST LIE DOWN AND DIE WALSALL CUNTS!!!!!

If scores stay as they are we're guaranteed Play offs

Exeter are doing that at Tranmere  because they are so knackered after Monday.

What I would give for one of those....

which is incredible.

Revell again for Wycombe.

What price a goal right now?

Stand up and be counted, lads.

Revell scores again

You'd think Walsall would be as well after playing with 10 men for 70 mins on Tuesday ::)

It ain't gonna happen is it?

Can't stand this.  Going away for 20 mins.  Back at the end of the game.

:(

Austin booked-is that his first?

Nouble coming on ...

Come on get Pericard on and go 3 upfront.

No, we're absolutely definitely not going to score...guaranteed..

Just trying a bit of reverse phsychology there :hmmm:

Could be.

FUCKING DO SOMETHING NOUBLE!!!!!

Nouble on  Austin off   Good sub imo

We should be going for it!

Austin off and Nouble on. Now's the time to proove yourself Nouble.

NOUBLE ON

C'mon Nobbly !

We'll see-Im not sure

Prove that you're too good for this level Frank - pleeeeease.

The one result not going our way is our own :crash:

A 'shuffle' from Nouble..great ::)

Corner to swindon

Great save from their keeeper ffs

Need a piss....


must... hold...it...in...

OOOOOOOOOOOOH CLOSE JPM!

Yet another 'great save' ::)

We have no luck at the moment.

8400 odd attendance.

A 94th minute o.g winner will be lovely..

Come on Town! Keep going

This is getting silly now!

Vic and Phil...I want to kill you.

That is all.

These commentators are pissing me off,  i keep thinking we have scored

I am truly sick of being led to believe we have scored by the commmentary.  >:(

come on town

Bring Pericard on    come on

Just stick it in the bloody net town arghhhhhhhh :crash:

I have to agree witht he comments about the commentators, Vic Morgan is a fucking wanker, getting us excited for no reason, calm the fuck down Vic...get excited AFTER the goal not when we shoot.

Nouble off-Pericard on----------------please!

Agreed

I think its because he is a fan. That's great sometimes but not at times like this.

Bring Pericard on,  nothing to lose  

"A wanker" is a tad harsh I think.

Otherwise I agree.

I imagine we're going to go with three up front. Little good that did us at Col U last week ::)

Oh he is a fan thats for sure but it makes annoying radio...would be fine if we could actually see the game ourselves.

Not going to happen is it  :(

That's the frustrating thing :crash: :crash: :crash: :crash: :crash: :crash: :crash:

Pericard on      Ward off    COME ON TOWN

C'mon Vince - pay back some of that transfer fee!

WE DON'T WANT TO KNOW ANY OTHER CUNTING SCORES VIC...COMMENTATE ON THE GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is Peri's time. Come on you reds!

This is fucking horrible. We must score!

Gills 3-2 Leeds

OK a tad harsh but hes frustrating me to hell and has been all season.

come on swindon, this should be a banker fucking win

SHUT UP ABOUT THE FUCKING COTSWOLD AIR SHOW FOR FUCK SAKE!!!!!!!

Come on town , we're still owed about 6 injury time goals after the amount of times weve been caught this year !

COME ON FOR FUCKS SAKE !

Colchester down and out

This is exciting - feels much better to be desperately chasing promotion than desperately trying to avoid relegation!

Gold plated chance.  Blew it.  Gutted.

Yep  :(

Stupid commentators,  every week we always play against a fucking man mountain or an amazing defensive team

Unfortuatley, this is so true.

Worse thing is our free scoring form has deserted us just as we'll be facing the play offs

What the fuck am I reading!?! Where have you been the last few years? Today we've secured a play-off place! It's a great season.

People are leaving...Unbelievable ???

Fucking wank,  what a waste if we dont win

But we had a great chance of auto but have fucked up in the last 3 games.

Doesn't look like it will happen. Big opportunity wasted.

One big plus is that we have secured a play off place. Never expected that at the start of the season.

Which is weird because as it stands - we're still very much in with a shout.

Lighten up for crying out loud.

My glass is half full......

Wow. That was the most frustrating 90 minutes since....errrr...Monday ::) :crash:

2points off automatic-lighten up everyone.3 massive games to go,we CAN do it!

Fucking joke,

Does anybody expect that Swindon Town would find an easy way of doing anything.

Yep it is a fucking joke!

oh well its a point still can do it ?

Other teams won't keep fucking up, We won't get auto, Play-offs it is.

Stop it!

And history has shown that the play offs is more often than not about the team playing with momentum, not necessarily the best side (Palace, Burnley, Brighton) I agree its been an awesome season and the boys have done us proud but on the last 3 results I wouldnt be too confident of us getting through the semi final.  Just ask our chums at Reading last year about losing form before the play offs.

Dont read into it that Im pissed off with the season though, far from it - Im paranoid that we wont get the rub of the green in the play offs mind

Leeds have lost!

We have officially secured a Play off place!

Still not over, other results have gone our way. Only 2 points behind Leeds but we need to get our form back and quickly, espescially if we are going to be in the play-offs.

Not quite yet Rich, Saints can still catch us

It is very simple, have to start taking our chances, it doesn't matter if its auto or playoffs.

Why can't we win a game after going behind, WTF is going on?

I'm still pinching myself that with 3 games remaining we are in the Play-Offs MINIMUM. It's an incredible achievement considering the clubs we're up against up here.

Yeah-like all the others are blazing a trail aren't they?

Sorry - but your negativity is really irritating me now.
Did you expect us to be in such a strong position at the start of the season?
I doubt it.

I'm realistic, We won't get auto.

OMG.

We 'might' have to settle for the play-offs. WILSON OUT.

Play offs is a huge achievement this season, I am very happy with being in the position we are in, just hope we regain a bit of scoring form again before the playoffs!

What worries me in the play-offs is what happens if we go behind in the semi final 1st leg?

Esacially. If you'd have told me this time last year that we would be guarenteed the play-offs and still had a Realistic chance of automatic promotion, then i think i would have had you sectioned.


Oh give it a rest. This is our best season for years and your negitivity is so  annoying.

Come on though, it would take 3 straight losses are we chasing Leeds or are we looking over our shoulders where I see a 10 point gap.

There's a difference between negativity and being realistic, Do you think we will get auto? Come on.

 :badmood:

I think their is still a chance. We have to up our performances but the team is definatley capable of doing it.

Performances are fine, taking chances has left us for three games.  61% possession today.

Well, what a load of wank that was. Nouble is shit. Fuck me I'm angry!

Wycombe will be tough as they still have a fighting chance of survival but we need to focus and all will be good.

we are only 2 points behind 2nd! some people need to fucking cheer up!

We always draw 1:1 with Walsall.

Yeah its not as if the other teams are in blistering form is it for fuck's sake!

Too much waccoe is bad for the soul.

Rich Pullen - We aren't mathematically there yet. We need at least one point statistically to guarantee the playoffs.

It has been a truly great season it's just frustrating that we aren't taking all these chances in recent weeks. I think we'll end up 5th which I'd have been happy with in August.

Id rather play a team that could still go down than a relaxed team under no pressure.Teams that could go down are in that position because they are shite.

Why would you play a narrow 4-3-3 and hoofball when we weren't winning anything in the air? We can't play long ball and shouldn't try to. The subs never should have been made IMO, not sure if Ferry was carrying a knock but he should have kept the team the same. I don't think I've said this yet this season, but Wilson got it totally wrong.

I fully agree.

spot on.

Brentford could prove to be a very tricky game.They have some excellent loan players and have
been on a pretty good run in recent weeks.

We play them the same day that Leeds are at Charlton.

yeah-more worried bout them than Wycombe.

I feel so defeated, deflated...

Today was our chance, we didn't take it.

Our lack of ability to come back and win worries me.

Our defence was rock solid a few games ago. Till Wilson needlessly changed it.

Wilson out?

This isn't down to Wilson Dave (I do realise you weren't being serious Adje....or were you?????)

It's just what happens at this time of the season when you are going for promotion..ask Leeds, Millwall, Charlton..etc

This!

We are still in with a great chance of Auto, a better chance than we we had this time yesterday! and FFS, when was the last time we had something good to play for going into the last three games, its been an incredible season and could still get alot better. The table will change next week and the week after, and if we are in with a shout going to Millwall then we have a chance!

Cheer the fuck up, yes it's frustrating, but every side gets nervous, goes long too early and makes mistakes when there is alot at stake, which is why the other sides lost today and which is why the other sides will drop points in the last 3 games, just like we will.

Yes....(no)!

I think you're being a bit harsh Dave.I'd say that our lack of composure upfront due to
nerves and anxiety,especially from the young players,has been as much of a problem.

God i am pissed off...cant say as anyone played badly and for me its up to the experienced players to step up in these situations....Wilsons subs baffle me,its my only critism....Pericard is awfull and Nouble hasnt done anything special...cant fault the effort but that little bit extra has been missing that good teams have who push on and go up.
Played some real nice football again at times and we stiill have a sniff....but thats all it is now i feel.

Annoying not to win but a draw was a fair result. Can't complain with the season we're having, too much doom and gloom on the texts into radio Swindon after the game.

Wilson made the correct changes, it's just a shame that Frank Nouble and Vincent Pericard are two of the most clueless players I have seen for us since Fola Onibuje in 2006. Not sure who was worse.

I've no complaints about that. We didn't deserve to win that game. We were awful in general from start to finish with a few spells in there that were half decent but nothing more. What's with the fucking hoofing today? The only player who wanted the ball on the floor was JD. He was getting the ball down but no one else seemed to be doing anything with it.

We gave them a crap goal. A really crap goal from nothing. It wasn't even like the Exeter goal. It was just shit from us. Pure shit. Cuthbert shouldn't have passed it to Lucas in the first place and why Lucas decided to pass it back is beyond me. Should have hoofed it out but instead Cuthbert treads on the ball and it's 1-0.

As soon as it's 1-0 you never fancy us but Walsall looked like they were on holiday already. The sad reality was that we did as well. Nice poachers goal from Charlie and you think we are back in it and should go on to win but Charlie comes off and it goes to pot. No one took the game by the scruff of the neck. Nouble and Pericard were poor and Timlin had 10 good minutes before he decided he'd join in the show and become shite as well.

I guess the positive points are we have still closed the gap to Leeds abelt only by a point and we have now confirmed a play-off place which is good. But there was a missed chance and if we perform like that in the play-offs we have no hope at all. I fucking hope we win our last 3 and Charlton beat Leeds. We'd go up then but I just can't see it after today.

Thing is tho' Leefer-no one,apart from Norwich,is "pushing on".

if we dont go up this season it will be a massive fuck up.
i dont give a shit about all this "we're lucky to have a club,we should be mid table" bollocks.
we have had a fucking golden chance of promotion,if we blow it then its our fault.
so many opportunities have not been taken.
time to show if they have the bollocks or not to get out of this division.

but all the teams in contention are doing exactly the same-its anxiety,and totally normal!

Really?

Let's just hope if we don't get auto we win the play-offs but who thinks we could win them?

I do-every other team is as vulnerable as we are.

As i said the effort has been outstanding...but we havnt got that little bit of quality required when needed....Ward was our best chance and cannot believe he was taken off...the amount of corners we get that get wasted is annoying but we still have a squeak and i for one is pissed off because of the great opportunity spurned.

We can win them but i'm not confident after today's showing.

Bollocks. It will be no such thing.

Will Millwall/Leeds/Charlton be any more confident after today?

If we end up in the play offs, I can assure you that today's performance will have no bearing whatsoever on how we do.

The club is moving forward in every way, not going up will not be a disaster.  Everything is in place for continued success.  The playoffs was the objective all along.  Three games without a win when it should have been two or three wins is not going to halt the progress of this football club.

Good sense of perspective Crozzer.

Lovely goal by Coxy on MOTD2!

Spot on.

We've had a couple of disappointing performances this week from a team that has run itself ragged through March pulling off a string of great performances against the odds. We've played 5 games in the last 15 days, surely its to be expected that players are going to be a bit tired and jaded?

We're still in with a chance of automatic promotion and are almost nailed on for a play off position. I would have bitten someones hand off for the guarantee of a playoff spot at Christmas, let alone after last years finish and losing Cox's goals in the summer.

It's worth considering that our form has suffered a bit of blip over 3 games. We have three league games left to turn it back round before the play-offs.

Nouble is a bit shit though.

Most ridiculous post of the season so far.

well tell me why then,instead of a one line swipe

I'm starting to think Pericard might be as well.

Because it's so obviously total bollocks that if it needs to be explained to you, you'll never get it.

To be honest arriba, we don't watch the other teams - the chances the other contenders have etc

What we do know is that we conceded a lot goals late on at one point so that could validate your point but we also know that Leeds United had a significant lead at the top - so we're not the only one who have potentially fucked up.

We've flirted in and around the Play-Offs most of the season whereas only entered the top 2 for one week. With that in mind I would say we are exactly where we deserve to be. If we don't go up, it's not a fuck up.

wasn't asking you

Don't think anyone expected to be in the position we are in at the start of the season, so a big up to all the players and management. If it's play offs then so be it, it's a bit of a bonus, but then it could be auto, still three games to go, exciting ain't it?

@leefer  17/04/10       Brockenhurst       3 - 1       Brading Town

Champions Poole Town hit one hundred points with an entertaining 4-4 draw at Christchurch

To be fair chaps i cant see much bollocks in this post...theres five sentences and all are correct.
The fact is arribba words it differently than the other 8000 there today.
I agree with all five sentences to be honest.....the first line being a little hard.

Thanks alot...good result for the Badgers.

I can also see what Arriba is getting at to be fair.

No. I don't care what enyone says, there is no way this season can be described as a fuck up if we don't go up. That's just a stupid statement which could apply to every club which just misses out on promotion. I'm not arguing about it though. I'm off out for a beer 8)

As can I, however the only point I disagree with is the first line due to us achieving far more this season than I ever expected.

Yes. It's the first statement I have a problem with. Not the rest.  Any way. Off out now :harshfunny:

'Missed opportunity' would have been a better phrase than 'fuck up' in my opinion...

"if we dont go up this season it will be a massive fuck up"

1) Start of the season - you look at the teams in this league - Norwich, Leeds, Charlton, Southampton, Millwall, Huddersfield. Its the strongest League One, possible ever. Most people, myself included, thought it would a mid-table season, with perhaps an outside chance of pushing for 6th place and sneaking in. We have been there pretty much all fucking season. Thats already exceeded all pre-season expectations regardless of what happens now.

2) Ignoring that, your "so many opportunitys have not been taken" - yeah we havn't had great results in the last couple of weeks. But I guess you have forgotten about the opportunities that we have taken, e.g. 2 wins against Leeds, 2 wins against Southampton etc.

3) Then your "we have had a fucking golden chance of promotion,if we blow it then its our fault" comments. Surely that applys even more to Leeds, Millwall and Charlton - due to the fact they are all in the same postion, with even more expectation, stronger sqauds, bigger budgets etc?

If we dont go up this season, it WON'T be a massive fuck up. It will be because a better team than us has got 2nd spot, and a better team than us have won the playoffs.

Opportunity missed rather than two points dropped today. We looked tired, devoid of ideas, hesitant and devoid of the football we had been playing. 1-1 was probably a fair result.

Its so frustrating. It must be the pressure getting to us. Its not unique, looks like Leeds, Millwall and possibly Charlton are suffering too.

On the plus side we are a point closer to Millwall and Leeds. On the downside we need Leeds to lose another to be in with a shout. And that is assuming we can win if they do.

Chances for promotion to the championship don't come by too often. We need to sort out our stagefright before the playoffs.

'missed opportunities"

What about unexpected points, such as most of last month?

What about them. We weren't really lucky to get them as such, we played well. I don't see your point?

i think if your gonna tell someone they are taliking bollocks, it should be backed up with some reason.
whether people agree with me or not, you can bet i'll back up my opinions every time.


none of us expected us to be up there this season.but and its a big fucking but,we have had a great chance of going up, and i stand by what i said above, it will be a fuck up if we blow it.
it's only down to the others around us fucking up that we're still up there.
if the others aint been losing, i think people would be more harsh on what we've been doing.
2 points from the last 3 games is a poor return.even 4 points from that 9 would have us right there.
i'm not writing us off as it's still on,but we are making a fucking hard job of it now.

Yeah I think that's worded wrong.

Unexpected points wouldnt describe at chance at automatic promotion (or lack of)

We didn't get automatic, we fucked up (makes sense in context)

We didn't get automatic, missed opportuinty.

We didn't get automatic, unexpected points

We're all gutted that 2nd is now unlikely but I think some have forgotten what we are - a collection of last seasons (near relegation) squad, free rejects from other clubs and loan players. Wilson has done wonders to get us to where we are now on such a small budget, but we've shown in the last 3 games that we haven't got quite enough strength and quality when it really matters.

Let's enjoy the play-off's and hopefully a nice day out at Wembley.

the teams above dont play our matches,thats down to stfc.means nothing what other clubs size is etc.

i dont forget the good days either,they are great but that doesn't get away from the fact that we've lost points we should have gained too.

the best side dont always win the play offs either,but second i'll grant you.we were better than brighton when they went up.and the season after we did fuck all.

My point is that we were not expected to get those points but we did, BECAUSE we played well.

People seem to be forgetting that we would not be this high in the league if it was not for that. Almost as though 6 points away to Leeds and Southampton is a given.

Not really interested in all this self pity bollocks, but what was charlie doing to celebrate his goal. Sort it out sunshine

What was he doing?

If Leeds United don't go up it's a 'massive fuck up' because they had a significant lead between them and the Play-Offs. Plus they're a massive club at this level.

If Charlton Athletic don't go up it's 'massive fuck up' because they too are a massive club at this level plus they also had a decent run of form that dipped dramatically.

You could even call Huddersfield Town's potential failure to go up a 'massive fuck up' because they invested quite a bit pre-season.

Then there's Franchise whose owner has massive expectations but they've failed and face budget cuts - 'massive fuck up'.

Tranmere Rovers are still rueing their fuck up from last season where they missed out on the Play-Offs on the final day and sacked their decent manager for John Barnes. MASSIVE fuck up!

Southend United have gone from Play-Off challengers to relegation fodder in a year... Yup, M-F-U!

Bristol Rovers are horrifically inconsistant, they could/should have competed for a Play-Off place.

I could go on but I hope you get my point. The joy of this sport is how unpredictable it can be, when it goes against you it's frustrating as hell - but when it goes in your favour? Lovely.

Not strictly true....we were inconsistent that season, but you may recall, Grunt Sniff missing a last minute pen at MKD, for a 2-1 win which would have taken us a point from the PO's with 7 games to go.  Once again however we tailed off.

It's not uncommon for this to happen, as it's hard to win matches under pressure, the secret is to have points in the bag, like Norwich, when they had a small blip recently, or for that matter Leeds.

But you could argue that if all those late goals hadn't gone in then we would be up. What's gone is gone. Irrelevant.

Its just a bit disappointing that we have secured 2/9 points while this close to the autos. A real missed opportunity given other teams around us have equally poor form. I'm sure all the fans of the teams that miss out on second will say the same.

I don't see how the season is anything less but a success though. Its not like we were top all season and threw it away.

This

My thoughts are it was crap today, no passion, no real effort and bloody clueless at times. Some players seemed to think the season finished at Elland Road, they got to come back down and start fighting.  Our play was so predictable again, no real width and no pace!  It is ironical that Darby was voted mom because I feel the thing that is missing now is Manky's raids down the wing setting things up in the box for us.  Just as well it wasn't Sheehan who made that almighty fuck-up for their goal, computers would be in melt-down now!!  Oh and Greer did his best to give one away in the second half!!

The frustrating thing is that we have dominated the last 3 matches yet somehow only got 2 points. In each of those 3 games we've had more of the possession, more shots on target, more shots off target (except vs Walsall) and more corners than the opposition. I'm just not sure whether this is good or bad.

My only real criticism today was the substitutions. I'm guessing Ferry was injured and if not, Wilson must have been watching a different game to me. Taking Austin off when you're planning to play 3 up front and put the ball in the box is never a good idea as he's the most likely to pick up a loose ball.

When we put the 3rd striker on, why was Ward taken off rather than a defender? Its pointless playing 3 up front and taking off one of the wide players that you need to put the ball in to the box. A single point from today is unlikely to make much difference at the end of the season, Wilson should have said fuck it and gone for all 3 - especially as it would have broken the record of not coming from behind this season.

I wouldn't be too critical of Nouble or Pericard either. Whilst they did nothing and were generally crap for me it was mainly due to the tactics we were playing. Neither were supplied with the balls they needed to do anything. We didn't even look like scoring again once the changes were made, which is pretty bad.

Another note, Pericard is also shite. Can someone enlighten me how long he signed for?

I also think Ferry had a bad game, not his usual self.

Gammon bap was ok though.

The voice of reason, we have these loan players at the moment:

Ward
Darby
Sheahan
Ferry
Nouble

Almost half our outfield is on loan.  Will even two of these loan players be with us next year.  We need more non-loan players as starters. Ward and Ferry are obvious priorities, but we may not sign either of them.  

The mentality we have is understandable, we don't have a board that is going to sell the best players at the earliest opportunity and will not suddenly slash the playing budget.  We have had to endure that for too many years.

So what's next?  Whether or not we gain promotion, there is going to be rebuilding, but look at where we are and where we have come from.  Before the new board and Danny arrived who could we sign, who would join Swindon, not for example Wycombe star Kevin Betsy if rumours were true.  Next season, with or without promotion  especially with more and more financial difficulties all over the divisions, players will want to sign for Swindon.  Danny and the board have broken us out of the cycle of not attracting good players to Swindon Town.

Let's look at the rest, we need a left back if Sheahan doesn't sign, we need a midfielder or two who can score.  We have prospered with Paynter, a player kept out by Revell earlier in the season, who could have been on his way to Div II from Southend.  We got Charlie (for now anyway) from non-league obviously, a once in a life time find, which only happened because Bournemouth couldn't sign him.  This isn't exactly how Southampton, Leeds, Charlton, Norwich etc. have operated.  How we got a shout of auto is incredible, since when has Div I had four former Premier League league teams in it.  Leeds United are shitting themselves following our results.

Its only just started, Swindon Town is a team that is still being put together.  The most critical part of our progress was not getting relegated last season.

  

Nice post crozzer.  Very sensible!

I think there's a lot of talking at cross purposes at the moment.  I think it's completely feasible to simultaneously

(a) recognise the massive steps forward taken both on and off the pitch this season and the great achievement that a near certain play off place represents; and
(b) feel a sense of real disappointment that form has slipped in recent games.

In the immediate aftermath of a disappointing home draw, I really don't think it's unreasonable to want to let off steam about a missed chance (or three).  We could all be completely level headed and see the big picture all of the time...but then we wouldn't be football fans.

You missed one, it's five former Premier League teams.

Us
Oldham
Leeds
Charlton
Norwich
Southampton
Franchise (debately)

You're not wrong, it is 7 including Franchise - I didn't count them (or Oldham) as I thought they'd been relegated before it became the Premier League and they hadn't.

Exactly...good post.

Wimbledon did the double over us during our Premiership season (and are the only side from the top flight during that period to now be playing in the Non League).  Franchise, however, have never been anywhere near the Premiership.

Franchise don't count. Never been in the Prem. Never been higher than the place they stole in the 3rd tier

And hopefully never will be....

That was bad today - JPM the best of a bad bunch for me. Ferry. probably the worst although Timlin was hardly an improvement.  Nouble looks as though he's breaking in somebody else's legs as he has bugger all control over them.
It looks like we're all cocking up at the moment but weirdly we're better off than we were yesterday. I'm still hopeful. Today was shit, next week I think we'll do well Wycombe will be up for it which may mean they will attack us unlike Exeter or Walsall.

I'd certainly change it for the next game though. I think we need Big Kev back in. I'd be half tempted to try Big Kev right wing with Darby in behind him and move JPM either in the middle or wide left - depending on who you drop out.

It's very easy to forget that we are dealing with human beings here. This is a damned good set of lads that Danny has assembled and I am pretty sure that they have given their absolute level best every game they have played (maybe not Hutchinson but he's history now)

It's hard for a career couch potato like myself to imagine the sheer physical exertion these boys put in every single  game and the effort that has gone into every game. And then you have the mental pressure as well which must be enormous. Then you consider things like 9 months ago Charlie Austin was playing for Poole Town part time, this is Danny Ward's first taste of first team football and Simon Ferry has been out injured for two years, TWO YEARS FOR FFS!!  

I reckon that right now, the players are as gutted as we are that we haven't fully capitalised on the other teams around us losing. There have been times in seasons past when I would not have thought that.

I am not making excuses for anyone but I think sometimes you have to take a step back and try to appreciate the massive effort that has been put in this season.

If certain people think it's a 'massive fuck up' if we don't go up then that's up to them. I'm not even going to try to to argue with them. If some one believes the Earth is flat, you're not going to convince them otherwise. However this season pans out, I will be proud of The Club and the players and the management and it's a long, long time since I've been able to say that. This Club is on an upward curve again, make no mistake.

Am I pissed off and frustrated right now though? You better fucking believe it!

I agree about Big Kev. He gives us better attacking options than Darby. Ward and Sheehan don't work effectively as a pair down the left and having Big Kev gives us an option down the right. I don't like the idea of JPM in the middle but then again last season I didn't like the idea of JPM full stop.
This may sound wrong but I may be inclined to start Perricard and put Charlie on the bench. He looked fucked today and did a hell of a lot of play acting resulting in a justified yellow card.

First thing would be a few days rest, five games in fifteen days whatever it is, with basically the same team.  Then I would think on Saturday, who could I give a breather.  Manky could come in at RFB.  I like the combination with JPM.  We are not scoring like we were, Manky makes for a more attacking line up with his forays upfield.  I would like to rest the one of the main strikers for a week, but that would be very difficult.  Perhaps, Marshall deserves a start for Ward.  In any event the opposition seems to had us sussed in the last few games.  It is time to start Pericard, if he isn't bothered, bring Charlie on. 

I said the same to my mate, next week may well be better for us as Wycombe need to win as well so hopefully the game will be streched and open as they need a win more than us which could play into our hands. I am more worried about Brentford than Wycombe and Millwall.

I dont think Charlie was playing acting, he went for the ball and tripped over the keeper.

He didnt claim for anything!

I can see your point Crozzer. As I said, id try Darby at RB and Kev RW, move JPM to the left and put LJF in at full back and drop Sheehan and rest Ward

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If Nouble is trying his best, he might as well give up now.

As much as I love the bloke Austin was diving quite a bit today. You're right he didn't appeal but he went to ground pretty softly and the booking could well have been for totting up rather than a one off incident. 

I thought it was for leaving his foot in on the keeper rather than for diving

Good point, well made. That wouldn't have hurt a fly.

true, I wasnt 100% certain what the booking was given for.

also, did he actually score or just run away with his arm up? I saw Cuthbert hit it, then it somehow ended up in the net. I really didnt see who got the last touch.

Pissed me off, they bloody celebrated instead of getting the ball back though.

if a team gets itself into a strong postition and then doesn't hold it,i can't see how its anything other than fucking it up.
we got to second,it was ours to lose,and lose it we did.that if we dont go up is a fuck up.
just because others have fucked up too,doesn't mean we aint done so.

luckily it's still on and we could get promoted.and despite saying it will be a fuck up if we dont,it will have been a decent season if we fail.
i never expected us to challenge,but when you do, it can only make you disapointed to blow it.
the next couple of weeks are going to be very interesting, and it's impossible to call.
i just hope it's us who's happy come the end of it

The same thing has happened in other games this season. The real concern is that Wilson doesn't seem to have plan B for when this happens, we just keep on playing the same game and getting nowhere. For that reason I'd like to see us try something different next week, maybe a 4-5-1 with Austin or Paynter up front (or even Nouble), Ward in an attacking midfield role just behind the sole striker and Marshall on the left. I reckon Ward had one of his best games playing that position against Norwich and it would be worth trying it again. Just something different from the 4-4-2 we always play.

Definitely Austin's goal, not sure he knew too much about it but he got the last touch. Pretty certain the card was for a foul on the keeper as well rather than diving.

Wilson's lack of a Plan B really does worry me! I'm going to be a nervous wreck if we end up in the play-offs, If we go behind i will fear for the worst, Teams' do have us sussed so we need to do new things and not continue to play the same way because it's not working.

I think Wilson has a plan B, although its no more than hoof it to the big black striker who is next to useless more often that not.

Also why do we keep hoofing it? We can't play that way, We are much better keeping the ball down so i don't understand hoofing it forward which we seem to be doing quite a lot lately.

Wilson needs to get a decent Plan B sorted for when we concede goals.

Fucking feel like cutting my wrists after reading a lot of that!

We are still in it due to other teams inability to win so gotta be happy surely.

The wankers that Booed today at the end don't deserve a sucessfull team to support.  2 points off 2nd and they boo, how can that possibly help the team for the next few games?  Absolute Fuckwits!

Maybe we should ask Malpas to come back so that at least there is a reason for everyone to be slitting their wrists!

Everyone laughs at WACCOE for going into meltdown, but threads like this are not much different to be honest. 

Reality check anyone?

I wasn't even really considering Nouble when I said that. I was referring to the players who had been in the squad all season. I think you knew that really you young rascal. 8)

I did, it was more a chance to have a dig at Nouble.

He's awful. Pericard isnt much better either. Have we ever had a striker that was both, decent and black?

I thnk Wayne Allison was, although I probably didn't fully appreciate him until he had gone (as is quite often the case with players)

Ndah was another.

Iffy to. I cant believe i actually forgot those. All I could think of Nouble, Pericard, Fola, Trevor fucking Benjamin and Kyle Lightbourne

Not to mention Eric Sabin and Lloyd Opara.

The Chief was ace and I'm deeply dissapointed I forgot him.

It was for leaving his foot in after the keeper collected the ball. Def Austin who scored, but i was sure  it went in off his arm, was convinced it would be disallowed. Thought walsall had done their homework well, the reason we hoofed it a lot, was because the always had 2 and sometimes 3 pressing when Cuthbert, Greer, or Lucas had the ball, hence we didn't have time to play out from the back like we normally do. Definately the worst i have seen us play this season, but people booing ought to piss off and watch sky from their armchairs.

Kyle Lightbourne? Fucking hell hearing them sort of names really does cheer me up. Thank fuck we don't have anyone that shit in our squad these days.

George is one of my all time favourite players.

Are you kidding ?  Ward has been hopeless for the last 4 games at least - our slump in form is directly in line with his performances. At the very least we should have Marshall on the bench to offer an alternaive

Some people need a reality check in the DRS like the twat who gave ferry the wanker sign vs Exeter & others who booed the team off at half time today vs Walsall.
Yes we've dropped points in last 3 games, but we are still clearly in the playoffs positions, creating lots of chances & not having much luck in front of goal. I understand football is a passionate sport where people release their frustrations after a hard week at work & if you pay your money you entitled to your opinion BUT WHAT PURPOSE DOES BOOING THE TEAM DO ... WE ARE CHALLENGING FOR PROMOTION, NOT FIGHTING RELEGATION.

Now that is a very good point sir. I've watched Wardy the last couple of games and have been going...'hmmmmmmmmm.....' in a Marge Simpson kind of way

he must have had the biggest bottom lip ever?

I'm sure I saw him trip over it once.

You can't see it 'any other way'...

Well, you obviously live in a very 'black and white' world arriba and you don't seem to be able to take into account that, as I pointed out a few posts back, that we are dealing with human beings here. i.e young lads like Charlie Austin who was working on a building site a few months back. Danny Ward who had not played first team football before this season. Simon Ferry had not played for two years prior to coming to Swindon (TWO FUCKING YEARS - THINK ABOUT THAT).

As far as you are concerned, those boys have fucked up. I could argue with you about this until one of us dies of old age. Judging by your posts (this is all I can do as I've never met you in the flesh) you seem to be quite an unforgiving person who views things in a very harsh, black and white way. I'm not like that. It's pretty clear we aint never going to agree on this. I'm never going to be able to convince you of my point of view, similarly, you you will never ever be able to even come close to convincing me that this season will have been a fuck up if we don't go up.

I think you're expecting too much. I really do. I cannot see for the life of me how it's been a fuck up. (Assuming we don't go up of course)

Batch said we "looked tired, devoid of ideas, hesitant and devoid of the football we had been playing". I think that's a pretty good summary of today's game - we just didn't know what to do. Walsall had a plan and executed it well, but we never made it difficult for them.

BUT the table looks like this:

Norwich 89
Leeds 80
Millwall 79
Swindon 78
Charlton 77
Hudds 74

Now, anybody who seriously think we can't make the top two needs to sleep off their anger and come back tomorrow having had a good old think about things. Leeds have three potentially tough games, Millwall have been as devoid of ideas as we were today, and Charlton are still a point behind. Wycombe will want to beat us next week, and that could give us the chance to get in behind them and cause problems, which is what we've been missing over the past two or three games.

Don't give up now. We were poor today but that doesn't mean we won't regain form soon. It's still there for the taking, so try to look forward to the next three games, rather than back over a frustrating week.

You're right Reevesy..there's a massive amount of frustration around at the moment and everyone has different ways of showing it which leads to the occasional forum 'ding dong do' but it's only because we all care so much. Reading the posts you could be forgiven for thinking we were 8 points behind second or something but there's only two points in it. DW was right (as he is, more often than not) when he said it's going to go to the last game. As you say, let's look forward, not back. 8)

Austin needs to sort out his celebration, fucking pointless goading the walsall fans today, really annoyed me.

Its not like it is the first time this has happened, we should have a plan to counter it and we don't. Wilson should be making changes to the tactics from the touchline or making substitutions. With Walsall pushing up so much to counter our passing game there were gaps at the back we could have exploited with the right tactics, or even something radical like putting Nouble on in the 1st half to give us some pace up front for balls over the top.

But no, Wilson just stands there and does fuck all. When he does make changes, it's for the worse.

I think we can get back to winning ways next week which hopefully will give us a new lease of life , I can see the next 2 games for all involved panning out like this

Leeds - Franchise draw
Millwall - Orient home win
Wycombe - Swindon away win
Exeter - Charlton draw

Charlton - Leeds Home win
Tranmere - Millwall draw
Swindon - Brentford Home win as long as we score first

This would leave us needing a draw last day, still all to play for it is no point dwelling on missed opprotunities the players just need to start believing again and we might just start getting the rub of the green again which seems to have deserted us the last week. I was frustrated as hell coming away from today but since calming down I still think we can do it.

Wilson out.  Shit manager.  What has he done for this club?  Bring back Malpas.

I'm only guessing here....but judging by the way Nouble's been playing I think that would have made no difference whatsoever.

Austin's goal .... walsall fans thought it was handball according to my neighbour who was in the away end. Will take it though to make up for the shambolic goal we gave away.

Ward does appear to have gone off the boil recently,not getting another crosses in for Paynter / Austin. 2nd half going narrow didnt work, not enough width ...JPM was playing in central position, although Darby attacking play/overlaps were better today.

until there is no hope of 2nd place, I will continue to hope

everyone's disappointed with the result today, but we're still closer to 2nd than we were before.

When we win, I want the week to go slowly so I can enjoy it, when we don't get the three points I want time to rush on to the next game.  Can't wait til Wycombe now.

The last few games have shown we clearly were not under the radar and others have certainly noticed us and done their homework. Wilson must realise teams are banking up against us, from the off, and unless we tweak the system we're going to be continually frustrated.

At half time today I said to my mate I would have gone 3-5-2 after the restart, taking off Darby and Ward for Amankwaah and LJF (Sheehan and Amankwaah as wingbacks). Alas, nothing happened and as always when we are chasing the game, we revert to the shittest, most desperate tactics out there - long ball hoofs with no success.

I do hope Wilson realises this in the last 3 games and adapts our play to what we're up against. If not, I believe the season will fizzle out and we'll be none the wiser to where we stand in the play-offs.

So any criticism of Wilson is prohibited?

With the season we have had, he seems to know what he is doing.  Who are we to argue?

So you're saying that signing Hutchinson on loan and playing him repeatedly was a shrewd move by Wilson?

I'm saying that overall Danny Wilson has got things right at this club.  Nothing is ever perfect, but are you seriously complaining this season?

There's only a few things i could criticise Wilson for:-

1.His Substitutions (Sometimes)

2.The forwards he has signed, Apart from Austin he has signed Hutchinson, Odabeyi, Revell, Pericard & Nouble, How about that for a list of fucking donkeys, Imagine if Austin & Paynter fucked off in the summer, Would you be confident that Wilson would sign some decent strikers?

3.Doesn't seem to have a Plan B when we're behind.

Absoultely.  With a budget like he has at his disposal and the caché that Swindon are blessed with we should be able to sign every top striker going.

So is there anyone else you would rather have in charge??

Wilson isn't perfect. Let's not pretend that he is. If he was he wouldn't be here.

But then that isn't anything anyone didn't already know.

Its fairly bloody obvious.

i think your problem with me is that you misinterpret my points,and ignore alot of it.you misquoted me last week and went off on points i didn't even make.now you've had a rant after quoting 1 line of a post.what you think is obvious about me is completely wrong.
i expected nothing but stability this season..

I agree and I'm not complaining about the season as a whole either.

He has been phenomenal in the transfer market and has built an excellent team of 11 players that play great passing football. I can't think of anyone that I would prefer to have as manager and I'll say the same even if we don't go up - Wilson is by far the most valuable asset the club has at present.

But that doesn't mean he is perfect - his team selections, tactics and substitutions have all got regular criticism from plenty of people (me included). On the one hand it concerns me a fair bit given his experience but on the other he hasn't been here that long and most likely needs longer to get everything to where he wants it to be.

I think Wilson could do a lot worse than give the players the next few days off, and only really do light training from here on in.

.....with the exception of Noube and Pericard.

I thought we played OK today. Plenty of chances and loads of posession, but fuck all to show for it.

Up until Austin scored, I was all for taking him off as he looked fucked or injured. After he scored though, he was the last player I'd have taken off as he was suddenly full of confidence again.

Nouble was fucking embarrassing. Again. Pericard at least puts himself about.

I'd still play an injured or out of form Paynter/Austin combo over any of the alternative strikers we currently have on the books.

Agree with the comments about Amankwah being a better attacking option over Darby, but Darby hasn't let us down since he arrived. He gets forward plenty of times and is an intelligent player both in defence and attack, but Amankwah scares the fucking shit out of teams with both his pace and audacity going forward, so would get the nod from against Wycombe.

Still plenty to play for, even at this late stage with the teams around us fucking up worse than us.

It's a fucking pisser that we havent capitalised on a gilt-edged chance to clinch 2nd spot in recent weeks. Everyone is pissed off about it; players, fans, management and owners. That's a fucking 100% no-brain given.

If I hear any cunt booing our lads, either home or away during the run in, I swear to god that I'll rip their fucking head off.

Well said.  The pisser is we have played well enough but the chances just haven't gone in.

You seriously are a complete and utter cunt, "pride_of_wilts". You are no such thing. You are a negative bag of shit and if I ever get the pleasant opportunity of meeting you I will shag your nostrils and shit in your mouth.

Fuck off.

:cunt:  :smugfu: :shutupbitch:

I made fair points, If you don't like it Fuck Off!

You don't make fair points, you are a whining twat.

I'm surprised that you manage to breathe. In fact, give it up and do us all a favour.

Fuck off, I forgot Wilson is perfect in every single way isn't he?!! You up his arse or something??! The points i made are valid, Moaning old cunt.

"I will shag your nostrils and shit in your mouth."

Me next!!!!

Bring it on then!

No no, I wanted to be the abused not the abuser  :gay:

*cough*

Anyway:

Bit calmer now as is always the case, and I have to give credit to Walsall. Easily the better side in the first half, Gray and Jones (who I rate highly at this level) were causing problems and Nicholls looked a threat. Deeney disappointed a tad but I won't judge over 90 minutes.

I have no idea why we started hoofing it, especially down the throat of a, what, 6'7" defender? I'd like to see JPM in the middle with Douglas I think, we seem to be having trouble breaking teams down at times, hence the endless passing. It looks pretty but a lot of the time we get nowhere, need to work on being more progressive when we've got possession. Wilson has said as much, lets see it put into practice.

Still, it says a lot that a Walsall fan on another forum said we're one of the better sides he's seen, and most Town fans are annoyed with the performance.

Austin, needless goading of the away fans, would much have preferred him to grab the ball and run back to the half way line. Still, he's living a bit of a dream at the minute (probably a poor excuse though considering how riled up Town fans got after Wordsworth's celebration against Colchester last week)

Nouble and Pericard really don't inspire me. Frank doesn't want to be here and Pericard shows the odd touch but is largely lethargic and frustrating.

My line-up for Wycombe:

-------------------Lucas--------------------

Manky-----Cuthbert------Greer------Sheehan

Marshall---Douglas---------JPM----------Ward

-------------Austin----Paynter---------------

Just feel we need freshening up a bit. I'd even consider JFL in for Sheehan. Or you could go Ferry, Douglas and Easton in a central 3, with JPM and Ward supporting Paynter/Austin.

We've got a few options, i'd like to see us use them.

Ok then, dickwad.
























You're an Oxford fan, aren't you? You weren't even at the fucking game.

CUNT

Oh aren't you clever with all the quoting, Sad old cunt!

I think most of us expected Big Kev to start yesterday to give us more attacking options? We know that Vincents a solid defender but a slow one, he wouldn't have been able to keep up with Kev.

Also I am worried/pissed off/frustrated by our inability to come back from a goal down and win. I think you'd be stupid not to be. Even more so for a team at the right end of the table. Why can't we do it? As soon as Walsall scored I knew the best we could do is draw and that's shocking. Both for my lack of belief and the fact that its true

We do have a plan b but it isn't a good one. As show by Pericard and Noubles combined goal total being less than Ben Hutchinsons.

The last two home gams have been a disapointment. No two ways about it...

In the last two games we went 1-0 down he made changes and we got draws.Not saying they are great points as they clearly are not but to say the changes are for the worse is utter bollocks.

We were at 1-1 yesterday before the changes. I think they took away our momentum yesterday.

However, like you said they worked against Exeter and even more so against Norwich a few weeks back.

The players were nervous yesterday in front of an even more nervous crowd.

Hopefully the two away games will let them play with a bit less stage fright, so that if we have to play in the play off's we at least take a little bit of form into them.

I think Pericard needs to start a game to let him settle a bit - he is obviously a bit rusty.

I was referring to the Walsall game, he made the changes at 1-1 and we didn't really look like scoring again.

Got to keep up with the younguns mate.

You blagged it in with your dads season ticket, you swindler!

Always think i can think abit more rational the day after.
We havnt played bad the last three matches,but we have lacked that little extra you need in these kind of battles.
In the last thros of yesterdays match we still had five players on the halfway line and we dont seem to have a gunho approach when needed,of course this style of play has seen us have a brilliant season but its just so frustrating as we really did have that second place in our grasp.
Of course a win next week puts us in the frame again but i think our chance of auto has gone.
The football has been a delight which prompted me to get a a ticket for next season...and we still have a good chance of playing in the Championship.

How did your daughter find the game Deano, did she enjoy it?

I think the internet should be turned off for a few hours when we don't win at home. Some of the comments on here are fucking ridiculous.

Its democracy Sam...some numpty was slagging Derby off all match...i told him he was playing well and to shut the fuck up.....he looked even more sheepish when the tannoy announced he was sponsors man of the match...would love him in our team every week next season.
Weve all got our opinions and this forum is briliant at discussing them....why turn it off.

It's probably been said already, but how many fucking times of late, have our shots on goal been blocked! I think it breached the 10 mark against Exeter, so i wouldn't be surprised to see a similar amount blocked during yesterdays game....It just seems of late that everytime we get in and around the area, in a perfect scoring position, that the initial shot is blocked....I'm obviously not havin a go here, it just frustrates the hell out of me! Fucking defenders and their last ditch defending........  >:(

That said, GG and SC both had a shocker yesterday, and Sheehan was also god-awful. Time to shake it up a bit? Bring in JFL and Morrison? I know a few people bum Scott Cuthbert, and maybe rightly so as he has been a class above this season, but no player should be garenteed a place in the starting XI, and after making 2 poor mistakes in the past 3 games which have cost us, i think it's time to warm the bench.
I await Cuhbert's biggest fan in the form of DRS, to tell me i'ma cunt for even suggesting such a thing  :toocool:

Is Nouble the next Tope Obadeyi?

No, he isn't Obadeyi scored for us, twice!!

I wouldn't drop Cuthbert but can see your point. I don't think LJF should have lost his place after his run in the side but he did. Sheehan has been poor since his return from injury

I'd have him back in Saturday. I certainly would want Morrison in our first XI right now...

I'm not going to  :deadhorse: here. I don't see how this point can be misinterpreted though:

"if we dont go up this season it will be a massive fuck up."

In what other way can that possibly be interpreted?
At the end of the day, that's what you think, I strongly disagree.
End of story.

This is a pretty fair point, I know we all care far more about our performance but credit where it's due.  Walsall pressed the life out of us, looked sharper into the tackle and obviously had a bit more energy as they flung themselves into blocking tackles from start to finish.  Early on, they could have been 2-3 goals up and were racking up a corner count that was starting to get embarrasing.  After a while we got right into it and some of the passing and interplay with JPM, Dougie, Paynter and Austin was great to watch - it just kept breaking down at the vital moment or we didn't get a decent bounce in the penalty area.  Their 2 centre backs were on top of most things lumped in high so it was frustrating when we chose that option.  The nerves were definately jangling - not only because of a load of marginal back passes and defensive fannying around but the amount of touches players like Wardy seem to need - loads of attempted crosses were blocked or went too near the keeper.  Thought subbing Charlie was a bloody good move - he'd been getting a few sly kicks from their defence, had done a few comic late dives and had got booked. The biggest problem with both Pericard and Nouble was the lack of directness - they seemed happy to lay it off rather than drive straight at their defence and get them back peddling - this could be total lack of confidence, match play or ability, I haven't seen them play enough. All in all we still had enough chances in the second half to have got at least 1 more goal and they also missed a sitter when their attacker was clan through and dragged it past the far post.  Good to meet a few of the South Oxforshire Reds and Yeovil

Cuthbert is my player of the season...his mistake cost us a goal yesterday but we didnt score enough and thats the bigger mistake,same as against Exeter....Tranmere showed yesterday how good Exeter are...not very.

I expect exeter having a man sent off 20 minutes in helped

Were getting the same treatment we got at the end of the League 2 seasons. Lots of teams comming down and getting 9 men back in their own box in the hope of a point. Only this time its working.

All I will say is that Norwich, Leeds and Charlton have had this pretty much all season. The pressure on their players is also much greater because their fans expect to go up, unlike ours who seem to be dreaming of Wembley.

Not one of Scott Cuthberts better games, but the bloke is still a class act. Nouble is a complete waste of time. Why he is so highly rated I have no idea, just another athlete who is never going to cut it because as a footballer he is average at best.

We were by far the better team at Colchester and against Exeter. But I didnt think we did enough yesterday. Amankwaah should have come on mid way through the second half.

If we cant come from behind to win a game does anyone think we really deserve to go up?

yeah. just ignore the rest of what i said.
and i'm the dead horse.please.....

We're all gutted that we've dropped 7 points in the past 3 games but some of the fans in the Don Rogers Stand are complete bellends.

Booing the team at half time, what the fuck is that about?

Football is a funny old game as Greevesy would say and things could all change again next week.

Anything can happen and it probably will. If we beat Wycombe, we are at the very worse still only 2 points off automatic. Leeds then have a very hard away game at Charlton while we entertain Brentford at home.

Believe people.

Think the problem with not being able to come from behind and win is that we do not really have anyone on the bench who can change a game. Nouble looks awful- as does Pericard.

Paynter already seems to have his mind elsewhere- especially for the last 2/3 games.

Still onwards and upwards- lets have 3 points at Wycombe next week. They will have to come out and try and win the game so hopefully we will be able to play some of our football.

Thats a bit harsh

Austin has been off the pace the last couple of games too. Its just how it is at the moment, I don't think you can blame the contract situation. They'll come good, form is temporary class is permanent as they say

paynter and austin still look like the only two who can grab us a goal.it aint always going to go for them, but fuck would i drop either of them.

Totally agree. Case in point i though Austin looked to be having a poor game yesterday by the high standards he set, he still scored.

The problem yesterday is that we didn't play football the way we can, hoofing the ball upfield didn't work at all.

We were also a bit shit at the back.

exactly.that's what he's there to do.

nouble and pericard are look as much use as ferry and douglas infront of goal.the difference is they are forwards.

I've noticed Ferry and Douglas shooting a bit more now.

They should put signs up in the Town End to warn people.

I'm one of Ferry's biggest fans but he was shite yesterday, made some awful touches.

Not bad enough to justify being replaced by Timlin.

To be fair, Timlin didn't have a bad game when he came on.

He did.


One thing that really really REALLY gets my goat. We're passing it around, keeping the ball. Walsall pressure, so we're forced to go backwards keeping the ball. Crowd moan and whinge, so we hoof it forward, give it away and they whinge and moan some more

Same with shooting from range. Moan if they don't and unless it goes in they moan again. I want to shoot them

despite what people may think due to my posts, i'm not one to get angry during games.it's not that important,it's entertainment.
i never boo,or get animated.i tend to laugh at the awful stuff.

In the words of Peter Griffin, this really grinds my gears....There actually is no pleasing some people! The bloke that sits behind me says the exact same thing to what you just wrote. Pisses me off. Another one of his favourites is 'get it in the blaady box!' when at times we only have one man to aim at against 4 of theirs........I'd much rather we kept possession, whether that means going back to defence and startin again, than just lump it in hope it falls to our player.

Another thing about yesterday was that there was not enough movement from our boys. Again, i put this down to them being jaded. We've played the pass and move/triangles so well all season, but i can't remember seeing much of this yesterday. Although it was nice to see Darby get forward a lot more. He's pretty good at it, so should be encouraged to do it more often.

Same. Fuck booing. What does that achieve?

Me too. Possibly because the crowd seems to have taken to shouting 'shoot' every time one of them touches the ball.

30 pages on a shit match day thread

What is that all about? It annoys me as it usually shouted when it's completely unfeasible... Can't help with decision making

I wouldn't say so

Where I sit in the DR, it's known as "shoot it". Bloke has the most annoying whining voice as well.

A few games ago Greer and Cuthbert got switched so that Greer is on the right and Cuthbert on the left - they haven't looked the same since - neither seems to feel comfortable clearing the ball anymore.

I've read this forum as a guest for as long as I can remember, but for some reason have now felt the need to add my two penneth.  At the start of the season, we'd have jumped at the chance of being in the position we're in, but I can't help but agree with several other people who think if we don't go up it will be a missed opportunity.  If we remain in league 1 next season, it's inevitable that players will move on and then we're back to the rebuilding of the team, which could make it difficult to get promotion next season.  Out of the top 8 teams, we've picked up the least number of points from the last 3 games, which is not good at this stage in the season and the pressure does look like it's starting to tell.  Unfortunately both Billy and Charlie are struggling to find the net and we're too reliant on them.  In previous years, we've had regular scorers from midfield and defence, but they're few and far between in the current team.  We've got nothing in reserver, as Nouble and Pericard are both shite as far as I'm concerned and I don't understand why Wilson is wanting to extend Nouble's load until the end of the season.  He's got no strength and is bullied off the ball with ease.  He doesn't pay attention to what's happening around him and on more than on occasion yesterday, when a free kick or throw was directed at him, he wasn't even looking.  Pericard has a bit more strength but not a lot else.  Sheehan was poor yesterday and I don't understand why Amankwaah wasn't brought on, he injected a bit of pace going forward on Monday, so why not again yesterday?  If we do fail to go up, it will be largely to blame on the last minute equalisers we conceded, which cost us 10 points in total.  4 of those points dropped were against Charlton, which would leave them 7 points behind us instead of 1.  If you deduct the 2 points for last minute equalisers we scored, we would have 8 more points than we have and be sitting easily in 2nd place!  i know that's football, but can't help but wonder  if only?  Anyway, I think Leeds will hang on to 2nd an we will have the excitement of the play-offs.   If we can go back to how we were playing we 're capable of beating any of them, but on the last few games performancess we'll struggle.  Haven't felt so tense about the end of a season for a long time.  Surely we deserve some luck?

Good first post.

The thought of not going up depresses me and I don't want to think about it :(

This season has been great and the team spirit is very evident.

The thing is, this forum has gone all fucking WACCOE. Some of you seem to thing we have a divine right to be better than everybody else, and in 30 pages and 444 posts, only two people have given the opposition any credit. Maybe they'd done their homework, prepared a game plan and executed it well?

be fair, we have played and can play better than that. That's the point most of us are making I think.

Good post, how many 1:1s at the C.G. have there been with Walsall?  We have not been good enough lately and with five games in quick succession what's so surprising about a jaded performance.  Also, other teams seem to getting wise to us.  The objective all season has been to reach the play-offs, barring a slim mathematical chance we are in the play-offs.  As said earlier in the thread, we are too reliant on Paynter and Austin for goalscoring, two players that may not be at the C.G. next season if rumours have substance.  We are too dependent on loan players.  We need goals from more players, more from set-pieces and certainly more from midfield.  The job of rebuilding is still a work in progress, irrespective of which division we are playing next season.  All along, the policy from the chairman and manager is that they will only sign a player when the right player is available.  They will not repeat the mistakes that put us in Div II and then nearly put us back in Div II.  We have only had a few months of the team in its present form, and with the stability now in this club the playing side will struggle.  I wouldn't be surprised if Norwich, Leeds and Huddersfield are promoted with Huddersfield immediately returning to Div I after just one season.   We were heading for the toilet with Malpas at the helm less than a year and a half ago.

Indeed we have and can. I wasn't criticising our performance - how can I when I didn't go or listen to the commentary - more picking up on the ridiculous over-reaction of a significant number of people on this thread. I'm as disappointed as the next man, but FFS we're fourth and still in with a shout. Thank Leeds mega-meltdown since the end of January for that, otherwise they and Norwich would have been out of sight for the auto spots.

Oh, and fucking spot on Crozzer.

There isn't any maybe about it as me and others have already said. They came to disrupt our passing game by pushing up and closing players down quickly, it worked and we didn't have an answer (which was my main complaint).

I don't get all the people bitching about the complaints. No one is going WACCOE and demanding promotion, they're just pointing out that we could and probably should be in 2nd and they're disappointed. Making the playoffs isn't going to be a failure (it will be a massive achievement even if we don't go up) but it doesn't change the fact that having automatic promotion dangled in front of us and then (maybe) letting it go is going to be a downer.

Come the end of the season, no matter what division we'll be in next year, I reckon pretty much everyone will see this as a success and there won't be any complaints. I'm just happy that we're actually playing decent football that is worth paying to watch, compared to the complete and utter shit we had week in week out last season. But I'm still going to bitch about stuff if I feel the need.

i dont think people are demanding more, or expecting more than we are getting this season.
i'm not anyway.
 we have threads taking the piss out of oxford after they dropped points.and numerous posts about leeds for the same reason.
then when some of us dare to say that we are in danger of cocking up, it is met with the type of critical posts that have been made over the last couple of days.
whatever happens now will not take away that this has been a great season for us.but dont confuse disapointment with expectation.

hopefully this debate will be for nothing as we'll go up(touches wood)

I think it's the way some of the posts are made - it's not "daring to say we might cock it up", it's the doom-laden "we've completely fucked up", "we're pathetic", calling the team "bottlers" etc (I'm paraphrasing, not trying to quote directly) posts which are so extreme they're always going to provoke a reaction. Some of the reactions are equally extreme and thus a cycle of nervous idiocy is born

I'm going to try and use that in our management meeting this week.

I know you've only been watching football for about 4 years but..... How exactly did Timlin have a bad game?

I still think we'll be ok this season.  I think the biggest problem for us was when we were on sky.  Every manager that has a fixture against us will have a video of that so they can read our game and know how to stop us playing the way we like to.

I thought TIMMY!!! did ok when he came on.

Nerves are beginning to show though across most of the team, understandable really considering the prize at stake. And it's not just us. All the teams in the playoffs have been wobbling like fuck recently.

If we don't get 2nd and miss out on promotion via the playoffs, it won't be a disaster, or the end of the world.

Saturday was Malpasian (i.e. thoroughly unimaginative) and our most disappointing home match since Hartlepools in October. Walsall did execute their game plan well, and could have won the game 2-1 near the end with that shot going narrowly wide. Exeter's style of play was more "purist" however - at least they tried to play the ball out of defence, whereas Walsall just hoofed any ball out in the second half or blocked any shot. Effective though.

Nouble just needs a goal. Had he scored against Tranmere when we were 3-0 up and their keeper made a great save, he would be proving to be a good substitute to bring on. I want to see him run at defences more and scare them into making mistakes. Likewise Ward, he just needs a goal or a fantastic cross that leads to a goal and he'll be back to form. Had he scored when he hit the post on Monday, he would be his normal confident self.

I wish the CG could provide a galvanising atmosphere at this stage of the season. It has not topped the Leeds match for atmosphere, and that was back in January. If we do have to go up via the Play Offs, and we have to kick off at 12.15pm on Saturday 15th, as one of the fixtures for League One proposes, the atmosphere will be positively "meh". Why can't we have the Stratton Bank open and full for Brentford match like we did for that match against Mansfield in April 2007 when our fans were chanting from the Town End to the Stratton Bank and back again. Electric. And it might make the difference between a draw and a win, and 2 critical home points.  

I still think we will finish 2nd, and if we miss out, we will get to Wembley and win there. Come on you Reds!

Nerves...plain and simple and if we dont get it sorted we will blow it.

Nobody played really well, Walsall came with a game plan of 'lets not lose' and executed it with a total fuck up from us to gift them the goal.

No Marshall on the bench.....still disappointed with that.

Did'nt like the booing at the end.....WTF???

Roll on Wycombe, they are under loads of pressure and will have a go and we will play better.

Any use of the word "thus" in a sentence gives it particular merit.

Whilst I dont think we played as well as we can on Saturday, credit must go to Walsall - they defended well, blocked pretty much everything (either defender or goalie), pressed hard behind the ball when we had it and looked dangerous on the counter attack. The question is though, after seeing both Exeter & Walsall play that way (OK different methods of counter attacking but both the same "defend first" principle), will any of our prospective play-off opponenents (if we dont grab 2nd place) play that way ? I suspect that Milwall, Leeds & probably Hudds will all be a bit more attacking than that, especially at their place, and probably here too unless they have a lead to defend.

The not winning after conceding first is starting to become a psychological block now, for the fans if not the players and this leads to frustrations in the stands. I saw more than 1 confrontation at half time in the DRS when fans challenged people who were booing. I suspect that many fans see this as our only chance to go up - if we miss out this year, will we be able to keep the key players & attract more/better ones ?

It was, I must confess, inspired by ours

The phrase 'virtuous circle'  thus springs to mind (see that Dozno9 ?)

Maybe, just maybe, the fans of other teams around us are equally thinking they should be 2nd if only they'd won that game, or drawn that one, or scored that goal late on etc.

No, it's just us. We, uniquely, completely and utterly fucked up our only chance ever of glory for the rest of all time and now the sky's going to fall in.

yeah with all that bloody ash

That's Wilson's fault as well. Probably. Him and his bloody volcano

I did, I did!!

Meh. The few good bits mixed in with some absolute gash. As IBIMR said once, "the game just passed him by". Too lightweight, distribution not good enough and no composure.

Give him time and space on the ball and he's not a bad little player. That's the problem though, he needs time and space given to him. Not good enough for us, promotion or not

When Timlin came on at least he looked to inject a bit of pace and cause Walsall a few problems when they had the ball. We spent far too much of the game waiting for them to kick the ball back to us rather than trying to put pressure on them.

For me Timlin looked the only player really hungry Saturday, he was not nervous, came on with an urgency looking to make an impact and at least flung himself about into challenges.  If the rest of our players had shown a similar attitude we may have won the game.

Timlin had a good first 10 minutes when it looked like he could change things and was then back to his old self - shit passing, getting caught in possession and not being able to tackle a paper bag and the game completely bypassing him.

He is a Lidl Martin Ling

...without the goals

This?

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I'm surprised the ball didn't come down covered in it at times.