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I'll start things off with a 2-1 win.

1-1.

if we win this one i think we mean buisness,i,m going for the safe 1-1 paynter for us penalty to them.

Charlie Austin to endear himself yet further with the Town faithful, scoring the winner in the 92nd minute. 1-2.

1-1

5 - 2 Town

Leaving in 30 mins, want to get there early so I can get a space at the bar in The John Cabot. They're a really good bunch there and always make you feel welcome.

This is the big step. If we win today we can go all the way.

BRING ON THE ROVERS

A win today shows where serious about our play off aspirations although 1-1 would still be a good result.

i got up this morning and actually want to go to this game.cant buy a ticket now so cant go.never mind a few bets in front of the tv it is.oh and 1-1 will be the score.cuthbert on target for us

Damn right Spencer.

Think it'll be a draw. Either 0-0 or 1-1

I agree. Was thinking the same!

I'll go 1-3 Austin hat-trick

I have seen Town score four goals in away games against Bristol Rovers on three different grounds:
Eastville
Ashton Gate
Twerton Park.

Let's make it four times four today.

No idea how this will turn out, I haven't seen us since Brentford so have no idea what we've been playing like except for what I've hear! Looking forward to it, even if we are on the crappy open terrace.

'Irene's a prostitute.'

lose 1-0

I think 1-1 with us taking the lead with another late goal for rovers equaliser! live just off gloucester road its very quiet but have seen a few gasheads walking in the bishop

just got back from a goodf day fishing, i am fantastically drunk. horray

This will be a hard game today - I will be content as long as we don't lose.

1-1

if anyone's looking for a pub, i'm in the royal oak. As long as you're not wearing colours you should be ok.

2-0 Town or 0-2 depending on your level of pedantry.

2-1 to swindon, paynter in the first half to give us the lead then a greer own goal just before half-time to make it level. austin pops up in the 86th minute to score a scruffy winner.

I reckon Higgins will win quite comfortably.

Ronnie will win with his beard

Same here. 2-1 Town today.

1-1 ide be very happy with...a win will pleasantly suprise me..UP THE TOWN.

I did not know this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Rovers_F.C. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol_Rovers_F.C.)
The club was founded in 1883 as Black Arabs F.C....

There's some guff in the wikipedia article about 'playing in black kits' but I think the real roots of the name derive from Bristol's long history of racial tolerance.

And 0-0 for the score. We haven't had a 0-0 in ages.

Local Derby, 1:1 or 2:2, Irene is a trollope.

Macklin back to the bench.

6-1, Austin to run riot....  :I'm a complete mofleakin Deak

Otherwise unchanged:

 TOWN (4-4-2): David Lucas; Kevin Amankwaah, Scott Cuthbert, Gordon Greer (c), Lecsinel Jean-Francois; Jon-Paul McGovern, Simon Ferry, Jonathan Douglas, Alan Sheehan; Billy Paynter, Charlie Austin

Subs: Phil Smith, Michael Timlin, Alan O'Brien, Lloyd Macklin, Lee Peacock, Alex Revell, Danny Ward

Billy Bragg!!!!

I think you can safely say that Hutchinson is going back to Celtic next month, as for the second match in a row he cannot make even the bench.

this on the radio anywhere on the net?

Whos the herbert co-commentating?

Andy Radcliffe.

its died and stfc world hasnt fucking turned on yet

Would you like to share my earphones

Mine's working

right it come on to the 2 minutes applause, come on town lets fucking have them

Updates please!  No f__king radio here.... 

comeon town.

austin has already had a chance but pretty even so far

Helpful Gillingham goal at Huddersfield.

Which one-I missed it!

0-1

fuck sake-my namesake!

0-2 Rovers Andy Williams is tearing Lescinel apart.

NOOOO!

fuck sake

Here we go....

We will win 4-3

Its better to be 2-0 down after 5 mins than after 85!

Obviously don't want us to lose but its games like this which will show the fighting spirit of the lads and really determine if we are capable of staying in the playoff places

As long as it doesn't turn into another Gillingham style defeat.

Its better not to be 2-0 down at all......

Is it really this bad?

i fear it may be worse than that

Pile of wank today then.

So far...

Well, commentators reckoned we were well on top, just two moments of madness.

It's sad but it's bed time for me.  Hopefully wake up tomorrow and see we won 2-4

Paynter hits the post.

Paynter hits post. Grrrr.

To make matters worse, that squawking tit is there and near RS.

How does it sound now?

I was just going to post that too. Have we established if he is proper medically mental or just a plain annoying twat.

3-0 Lescinel having a bit of a mare.

3-0.

Back to being a bunch of cunts again.

We need a new left back. Lescinel is too much of a liability.

Lesc shows his early season form

Game over.Ex Towners always seem to do for us

How embarassing.  Idiots

We have one, he's playing left mid.

Could be worse. Could be there.

How on earth have we let 3 in against Rovers.

3 chances, 3 goals, it's another freak game like the Gills.

I think we'll get back into this!

Yeah, quick 2nd half Austin hattrick, followed by a Paynter header, we'll win it 4-3, piece of piss.

WILSON OUT

Ive seen us do it before!

Need one before half time to have a fighting chance inthe second half.

God Im so pissed off.

Sheehan shot cleared off the line.

Half time.

Lescinal must surely be taken off.Sheehan at left back with O'Brien or Maklin coming on

Sound tactical advice

Lescinal is cack

FUCK OFF WITH YOUR BIBITY BOBITY BOO

Lescinel is the new Ifil.

Vic Morgan needs to stop with the magic puns, that was painful.

Yep, O'Brien for Lescinel.

Jesus, Lescinel was great v Orient.  What short memories some have.  

Anyway, if he isn't performing then ok, take him off or whatever but he doesn't deserve the abuse he gets from some!  Anyone would think he was Michael Pook!

Agree to a certain extent but it is clear to see mate he is our week link.

I've never been that impressed with him tbh. Yes he's strong and quite good in the tackle, but defensively he is very poor. Gets caught out by simple balls over the top time after time

He's so inconsistent though Luci and it's not the first time he has had a shocker.

Thats what frustrating as it seems he can't handle pressure etc.

When hes good, hes really good but when hes not it always costs us dearly.

I think I just want him to be good all the time as some of the stick I've heard him get is uncalled for!

O'Brien has a golden chance and doesn't shoot, by the sound of it.

Ward on for Austin. That won't go down well on Facebook.

Why is Austin going off?

:D

Is this Rovers trying to shut up shop with 40 minutes to play. Hope so - it never works for us!

I don't know why i just get the feeling their is something still in this game for us.

Are you there mate?

No, he's injured.

Nah mate i'm not

I'm glad I didn't go.  Nowt worse than Rovers fans smug with a rare win over us.

In all honesty Luc when was the last time we beat them ?

April

I went out on page 6 when we were 3-0 down. Have just come back in and expect that we have got 2 back by now! Am going to read back in eager anticipation!!!!!!!!

Oh !

I was so happy last week

doh




smart cunt  ;) :D

What's that about? Has he had a bad game, or is all the trouble coming down the wings rather than the middle?

:) We've had quite a good record against rovers recently, only one defeat in 6, 4 wins. Times they are a-changing

Bloody Millwall are winning, could have done with them losing/drawing really.

So whats been happening in the 2nd half?

Nothing much.

this came out of the blue a bit didn't it?

We've been shit-they've not needed to be good

Out of the blue and white

I'm glad I took the decision to spend the afternoon setting up my fish tank than listen to the game.

Can everyone stop talking about the play-offs now please? Thanks.

Why?

Yeovil 3 Norwich 2 bloody hell.

Because I said so :)

And otherwise when we finish mid-table at the end of the season people will start slating us for being shit (again).

No, Norwich got an equaliser.

I'm glad my tempting of fate worked for Yeovil haha

Dons get a late winner-shit

Can't win them all. At least we know that we just can't rely on Lec's, shame.

Just wanted to win this one though!

Back on minus again!

I don't know any Rovers fans thank god!

I do-he lives in my village and is a right twat! :cry:

I do, he's gonna fucking love this, never gonna hear the end of it.
I might have to kill him.

I work with one and was giving him shit on Friday!

this this is one to put behind us a dn forget about as quickly as possible and move on to next saturday

Absolutely Chubbs


Bad day at the office, disappointing of course but not throwing a wobly

I have 6 Rovers supporting mates and I am getting shit from them on txt already.....wankers.

Awful game. Played no football, and didn't show any desire. A freak 10 minutes can always happen, but you still have 80 minutes to put it right- we didn't even try to.

I dont think Audrey Hepburn was sexy either

Weren't impressed by the half-time ska to be honest,Dub version of Stand Down Margaret?Lets have some Ethiopians

Ranking Roger !!!!!

Wanking Woger!

seen the goals on tv.jfl at fault for the first two (didn't stop the crosses)all asleep for the 3rd.
we were due a beating as we have been quite lucky this season.

agreed

Disapointing afternoon, on which we also got merked by Jeff Stelling :(

"bristol rovers 1, disney land 0, wonder if it was mickey mouse defending ..."

:/

RUBBISH

:D

That joke is sssssssssssssso old

Exactly. And every time we have lost this season we have come back strongly. We lost at Gillingham then went unbetaen for 11 games. We lost 2 in a row then went on to win the next 4. There's reasons to be cheerful. Don't forget we're only 3 points off the top 6 with 2 games in hand. I wonder if this will be enough for Bart to make an appearance though?

I forgot to listen to the game. Didn't miss much then?

I think this summary is spot on really: http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/MatchReport/0,,10341~48612,00.html

First half we created all the chances and looked reasonably good going forward. JFL gave a goal away, and a minute later he made it easy for them to cross for the 2nd. Then just before half time he gave away a needless free-kick, the whole defence fell asleep and we were 3 down.

In the 2nd half we made a go of it for 10 minutes, didn't score and gave up. I have no idea why Austin went off, he was winning headers and pulling defenders about. Ward came on and didn't do a lot, but there was no real service from the midfield all 2nd half as they looked like they just wanted to go home.

We created just as many chances as Rovers and they didn't look a particularly good side. We just let them in three times with defending that Charlie Austin might not even be used to facing, and they weren't going to waste those chances

it was SHIT


(get on msn)

Hardly a disaster then. At least it wasn't as dire as Gillingham.

No, not a disaster. But it does feel like a waste of an afternoon when three basic errors cost you a derby game, and when the players seem to give up after about 50 minutes.

Bady day at the office all round.

Lescinel was an absolte joke for the first 2 goals- and was rightly taken off at half time.

We need to go in for a fullback in January- 2 players we let go in Vincent and Smith are both twice the player Lescinel is.

I didn't have a good view of the goals, but I'm pretty certain someone (other than JFL) gave the ball away in our own half leading to the goals. Either way I'm not sure singling JFL out is fair, there was some shocking defending in the second half and I'm amazed it didn't lead to more goals.

Douglas made an attempt for twat of the year, stood just outside our own penalty area with a defender behind him, the ball comes to him and he decides to flick it over his head (in to a more dangerous area not knowing what was there) to lose the defender. Amankwaah had plenty of moments as well in the second half. As did Greer.

Going in 3 down at half time was harsh to say the least, on another day we'd have been 2-0 up. I'd single Paynter out for fucking up a brilliant chance when he hit the post, with what was a totally free shot from the edge of the area. It should have been in the net. There were other good chances in the first half as well.

Rovers really weren't that good, other than a couple of their strikers (or midfielders) who ripped our defence to shreds on a number of occasions. If we'd have played the full 90 minutes at something near to our best we would have turned them over. So its not all doom and gloom as some are making out, just a bad day at the office.

Why do we need another left back? We've already got JFL, Kennedy and Sheehan. Another would be pointless.

A solid left sided midfielder, similar to JPM, is what we really need - we look a far better team playing with wide midfielders rather than wingers.

jfl and kenedy make mistakes.i aoint seen sheehan so dont know about him.we may have 3 but are they good enough?

i dont think todays defeat is any real surprise at all.we have been pretty average but ground out points so far with a big chunk of luck.these things level out over time, and we wont be anywhere near the play offs come may.
unless money is invested in the team(unlikely)

Im over it!

our strikers scoring, confidence up, winning games, some sort of buzz back, local 'derby' game

If its too good to be true, then it probably is.

just when it looks like we're going place we lose, its a reality check. always happens that way.

He was pony today, but you're talking right out of your ring there fella.

Both of them were consistently shite by the time we let them go.

JFL was extremely poor today and rightly subbed but jonny is right to say he was far from the only one at fault. Both moves started in the middle of the pitch and we didn't seem to challenge at all today. As has often been said we miss Douglas when he's not playing and he didn't seem to be today even if he was physically present. But it would be unfair to single anyone out - whole team had a bad day at the office. And yeah like so many others have said in the grand scheme of things and taken into perspective of our overall form/placing, it's just that - one bad game. But it is disappointing nonetheless, partly because I've got to go into work with grinning yokels in Brizzle on Monday, but also what Spence said earlier. Today was a game to really set down a marker to say whether we were really going to challenge this season. And we didn't, we just went missing.

Vincent yes-but Smith was never consistently shite in my book

Jamie Vincent was never, ever shite for us. Ever.

The defeat was made harder to handle by having a right pair of goons stood behind me throughout the entire first half, who spent their time complaining that their accumulators weren't doing well and saying we should replace Greer (who can't pass) with Steve Fucking Elliott. Pair of bellends.

Still, Brighton next week. Think we'll get over today and be back on form by then.

And no coincidence that we improved significantly when he returned half way through last season either.....

Two at work, which given I work in Bristol is low. Thank the fucking lord I'm off until 4th January, they may have forgotten by then......

releasing vincent was insane

it wasnt for footballing reasons he was released though we all know that

I daren't look at the adver board, as if there's so much bollocks on here that will be unbearable. One bad day at the office and suddenly we're shit and vincent would be our saviour! Get a grip ffs.

that isn't what has been said though.

You see I disagree with that totally. I think we've deserved the wins we have got. We've certainly been the better team in most of them like we were last week and against Huddersfield. I'd also say we were unlucky not to win a few of the draws we got earlier on in the season as well. We certainly could have had 2 or 3 more wins. The games we have lost are the ones we haven't really played great in.

I dont think arriba actually watches STFC anymore.

??

If anyone thinks we've been lucky and average this season they clearly arent watching us.

We're doing better than last season yes, but are we really promotion candidates? That is debatable.

Bloody hell. As hard as Bart tries he still can't earn himself a place at the comedy awards! How sad not to mention pathetic.

Stupid comparisons don't even warrant a reply.  

No we arent, did I (or anyone) say we were?

There is a huge gap between being promotion candidates and being luckly and average. We are neither.

I never thought we had that much of a chance of promotion with all the big teams in the division this season (Norwich, Southampton, Charlton, Leeds) if they sorted their shit out and it looks like they all have now (especially Southampton who are climbing the table fast).

Our current league position doesn't lie though, we're easily top 10 the way we're playing so far this season.

Getting back to today's game, what the fuck was with the attendance? 7,613 of which about 1,200 were us (I think that is what the announcer said). That is a seriously shit crowd, isn't it? Didn't we get about 12,000 for the home game last season?

I don't think the memorial holds many does it?

I think when you are 6th in the table with two games in hand at christmas you can be considered candidates.Most teams we have played against have said we will be challenging come the end of the season.Also could someone point out these very lucky games we have had please

Its not christmas yet  :D

Just under 12,000 - so that ain't an excuse for the shit crowd today.

Good point by christmas we will be 3 points better off

Brighton next isn't it?

Should be 3 points. Interesting what reception Brez will get.

we're both.i dont go to every game but still go.we've been fortunate in a fair few matches this season.
whats clear to you aint fact,so your judgement is clouded.i just see it differently to you.

i'll bet you £20 to the charity of your choice, we wont make the play offs.
and iob who disagrees with me every match thread.i'll gladly pay if we do.

put your money where your mouth is davo!

personally, I think we've been worth our top 6 spot, after all, we may have been lucky on some occassions, but unlucky during others, like all the games we drew.

We'll lose the odd game and today was one of em. Think we'll win next week, so let's move on.

Next.

Weasel you are the one that is talking shite.

Vincent and Smith, were never shit. Even Andy Nicholas was much better than Lescinel.

Fact is we need a full back- badly.

Who knew, but Bart is right. Jean-Francois is a liability with balls over the top (See Gillingham and Carlisle, where although Anyinsah didn't score,  he beat LJF with ease) and was arguably at fault for all three goals today (although as Jonny pointed out, I think, Amankwaah gave the ball away for the second and for the third everyone was dozing). I think I'd be happy with Sheehan in his place, but for my money, left midfield is an area that needs attention, not sure O'Brien can give us what we need.

You haven't been very vocal about our average play and fortunate wins before now have you? Or at least I don't remember it, I haven't gone through your posts to check (better things to do), but I'm pretty sure it's something you'd have bought up pretty consistantly. You generally seem to revel in being a bit negative.

Todays match was hopefully just an annoying blip. Its a pisser to get dicked by the gas, but its only one match in a long, long season. A lot of top-half Prem clubs suffer shit performances and results like we had today, but the good ones bounce back and end up doing well.

We need to stop feeling sorry for ourselves and concentrate on picking up points over the Chistmas break, starting with Brighton next saturday.

I'm surprised, and actually annoyed at how well people on this forum have taken today's defeat... It wad a shit and passionless performance against our closest rivals. Blip or not, our players on the whole were a disgrace, and the fact they're being let off so lightly, after a game of such importance really fucks me off.

Wasn't it Arriba who actually complained once after we WON a match.

Regardless, we should all expect Brazil-esque performances week in and week out, including away days to teams who are pushing for the play-offs themselves.

Agreed. Losing 3-0 after our run would be annoying if it were anywhere else. But 3-0 at Rovers makes it much fucking worse.

Most of the season the defence have been pretty solid. But there have been occasions where they are collectively woeful. Just odd days thankfully.

I said I'd be very happy if we were in touch of the playoffs come Christmas. Win next week and I'll be very happy! Charlton on Boxing Day will be tough. So I think a win Saturday is a must.

Still think we are a little short of firepower to maintain a proper playoff challenge. But its thus far a damned site better than last year. Progress.

I won't take the bet because not once have I said we will make the play offs as I don't think we will.

However, we have not been lucky and average at all. You're talking shite. Simple as that.

I think we will finish top 10 and I'll bet on that no problem.

Anyone thought of all these lucky games we have won yet

Nope. Still thinking.....

We were lucky to beat Crewe (not a league match, does that count?)

We were lucky at Wrexham, but thats about it.

I was in the corporate seats in amongst the Rovers fans today and it sounds stupid, but we were by far the better footballing side at the start of the game, had most of the posession, passed it nicely. Greer played a beautiful 40 yars crossfield ball to Sheehan, which drew gasps from them. But we failed to defend 2 crosses from the right and thats it, game over. We couldnt cope with their right hand side all game, and that is definately something for Shirtliff and the lads to work on.

They did have more desire than us, and obviously deserved to win the game. But I think these things happen when you try and play football, like we are. A Sturrock side would have got embroiled in a war yesterday and probably lost 1-0. Its a bad defeat, but you dont get any more points for losing close games. Their tactics were spot on, probably helped by the fact they sent 3 scouts to watch us last week, and went home with pages and pages of notes.

Its a set back, especially for Lescinel. It seemed like Wilson was really getting every player to play for their shirt and its dissapointing that Lecs switched off today because he has been improving a lot. With Charlie Austin slotting into the side it looked as if we were completing the jigsaw, but weve got question marks over that left back slot as well now.

I was in the home end yesterday and I put a stupid amount of money on a Swindon win, so Ive got more reason to be done in than most. But I rekon dont panic, we are improving and we will bounce back, weve got strong characters in that dressing room now. Its still going to be an exciting season, weve still got a team to be proud of. YOU REDS!

Whoops, I meant Wrexham, not Crewe.

I did think Woking we were aswell but i honestly can't think of a league game where we have been lucky this season

^

I am sure that Arriba will be along to enlighten us.

Yeovil-a little bit

We thrashed Woking really if you watch the highlights, had about 20 shots on goal. Just wasteful.

Weve got a good team. I think Lescinel gets one last chance, if he has another game like that there are question marks whether he is really a first choice starter. We need striker reinforcements, but Swindon are getting there.

Im the positive and excited about Swindon I have been for 2 years.

Same here mate i agree with all of that just meant the manner of the win.I don't know exactly how many but that must be about 6 games we have had to take a left back off at half time.

The way he set up Austins first goal at the County Ground was absolutely fantastic. Hes fast, good jump, and not a bad footballer. He has been improving.

But he switches off and he can be a liability. What dya do?

He is random. Never steady either good or poor.

Only lucky thing about the woking game was Austin being cup tied otherwise we would have had about 6

having not read any of this thread but having seen the highlights did anyone else notice the third shouldn't have been allowed?

If you watch the highlights the ref trys to stop the cross with his foot and also puts the whistle to his mouth to stop play but before he knows it goal.

just my 2 pence worth like.

When Sheenan played LB yesterday he looked more solid, it is clear o'brien is shocking, that chance he missed was dreadful. It was a bad performece but hopefully just a blip, we cant play well every game. A home game next week which should win to get ourselfes back on track.

I dont think we can get promoted this year or reach the play-offs (bar some inspired signings in Jan) but a good mid table finish this year is a good stepping stone for next year when the league could also be a bit weaker with Leeds, Charlton etc going up.

Hmmm, looks like Wilson will have to play Sheehan left back, with O'Brien left wing next week and I fear the worse for O'Brien. Its a massive game for him, and he needs a good opening 15 minutes. Hopefully the crowd will go easy on him.

We can still make the play offs.

I wouldn't mind seeing Sheehan left back and Lescinel left midfield.

We need a proper left sided midfielder.

He may go with Maklin instead

But he's not long recovered from injury - it'll take a month or two to get up to speed. He may still be shocking but lets give him that chance first.

Having watched the goals again, blaming JFL for them is going way over the top.

For the first, their man got behind him and the ball was played over the top. Why hadn't the rest of the defence pushed up for offside and why was Greer five yards in front of JFL when the ball was played through?

For the second, he was out of position and could have done more to block the cross. But when the cross went over Cuthbert and Greer should have been covering the man and taking care of the cross and they didn't. Bizarelly, Greer actually stopped on the six yard box for some reason.

For the third, Greer should have taken care of the free kick and cleared it and he didn't.

Seriously mate fuck off.What the fuck are you on about

i'd say if you're a professional footballer you should probably be able to control a football.

the fact he can't seem to do this, pass, tackle, cross or track back make him a pretty useless individual.

his positives- he can run fast.

yay

what kind of a word is drongo? is it 11 year old speak or something?

Im lost.

how about you stop feeding the troll and lets all hope it fucks off.

O'Brien has yet to impress me, its still very early days. I'd like to see him have a run in the team first.

Macklin is a good player and his injury came as possibly the worst possible time. I hope he's back to how he was before he got injured very soon.

Inclined to agree. Will give him the benefit of the doubt and suspend judgement until we've seen more but from what we've seen so far I fear that "have a run" is about all we're likely to see.

 Studying the table recently, I noticed of the top ten teams, we'd only played Norwich away, further the not playing Leeds or Charlton, maybe these factors were distorting our position.

That is why games like these, ie top ten sides away, Leeds and Charlton, are going to shape our season.

Yesterdays result doesn't bode well.

         

thank fuck we lost, it means reg can post rambling statistics and wallow in self pity again

no. i tell it how i see it.always have and always will.i think others ignore the negative stuff if we win.then it's all shit when we lose.the signs are there when we win and i mention it.then get labled as moaning and negative.
i dont revel in it.

no it wasn't.

On that basis Reg leeds season does not look to good does it.Think they have only played 2 top 10 teams this year drawing against one.

I really don't understand our fans sometimes,we are so close to having a top 6 team yet some people just seem to want to moan like fuck about everything and scrutinise everything.

I personally think we are 2/3 good players of planting ourselves firmly in the top6 and based on what wilson has done so far i trust him to get us those players if not then we get a improved finish on last season still.

The same people on this forum who are moaning about are gates being shit are probably the people who are telling people that we are just lucky and not likely to do anything this season.

I left with about 10 minutes left to play yesterday, the players had given up so I thought I'd follow their example.

LJF is a crap defender. No matter what anyone thinks of his ability on the ball, or his overlapping, or his crossing. The main purpose of a left back is to defend and he does this badly.

Really disapointed with yesterday, we played the better football but were carved open too easily. I also don't know why Austin was subbed.

Sheehan needs to be in the back four next week.   

the first game this season i was critical was southend.i said the ref did us a massive favour,and that we were pretty poor and didn't pass the ball well.got pelters on here then read wilsons interview which picked up on all the points i raised that evening.
i was then critical after woking as it was shit.it was, end of.
i dont go out to be negative and am not all the time.i just get the label grumpy and negative and it's stuck.never mind it bothers me not.

dave. top 10 i think is achievable so no bet.

Even when we win, sometimes I like to point out negatives and positives to give an all round perspective. Unfortunately it probably makes it sound like I want perfection in every game.

We will be in the playoffs or thereabouts come the end of the season. The fact we've been planted in the top ten for ages shows the achievements of Wilson. Malpas fucking destroyed this team and despite myself and many others thinking things would improve, they never did. Contrast that dire football to what we have now and too many negative thoughts just make it seem like we're fans with ideas above our station (which is probably not an unfair assessment in some respects).

Yesterday's result and performance sounded bad, but we've been shit on occassion this season and it hasn't continued. I think Reg must get his rocks off by being a doom merchant. When was the last time he got our season prospects correct?

Don't know about you, but I like to look at the bigger picture, and try and figure out what this means to us. 

In this case, is our early season something of genuine promise, or should we be more restrained in our enthusiasm...so for me the acid test comes in how we shape up away at top ten teams and how we do v Leeds and Charlton.

Just because we got the biggest stuffing at Wovers since I first went to Eastville over 43 years ago, doesn't necessarily mean the wheels have fallen off, but it doesn't exactly make me feel like dancing in the streets.

We've also played Bristol Rovers & Walsall away. Plus Colchester, Huddersfield, Franchise, Millwall at home. All in the top 10. We've lost twice.


I agree with this point and quoting it because what was said not because you said it but Jamie Vincent did the defending part well but offered nothing going forward and generally got pelted for it each week from our fans.

I have a feeling Sheehan is only playing left wing because we didnt sign Hal Robson-Kanu. If we had, it would be those two on the left.

I think that the performance didn't sound bad myself, especially in the first half. It was just some silly errors that let us down.

I didn't actually listen, so I guess I should have said 'reads bad'. Even if we were good in other areas, defensively we were poor and it was our undoing. I expect there will be some lessons learned.

Dare I say, we may be missing McNamee, though hopefully Macklin will be back to form - I quite liked the look of his play before he got injured.

...the year we got relegated, naturally.

I called it 3 weeks previous mind.

MacNamee would've done fuck all to improve our fortunes yesterday. That wasn't the area that underperformed. I singled out LJF, but in fairness our back four (With the possible exception of Big Kev) all had worse than usual days.

When I looked a couple of weeks back, I'm not sure Saddlers were up there, the win at Carlisle is satrting to look a good result, as they've been in decent form before and since, and have shot up the table.

Yes it was. More than once. To be fair, you were giving a bit of balance to the rose-tinted view of the rest of us because, as with most teams, there's often fault to be found even in a win. But you've come on and complained after wins more than once this season. It's not just an unmerited reputation that gets you labelled a miserable fucker. It's being a miserable fucker :)

i dont complain though.not saying everyting is great doesn't =  complaining.there is a difference.
i've stated up the thread the games i was critical.
i think we are an average side and our final postion in the table will reflect it come may.i'm not complaining about it and hope i'm wrong and we make the play offs.

Fair enough. But I think the original poster was referring to the games when you were critical (whether justifiably or not) after wins, when pretty much everyone else was happy with the wins. Which is why I said it probably was you he was asking about.

And you're still a miserable fucker :)

Oh I didn't wuite mean it like that, but we haven't many options at the moment. I suppose it's a case of waiting and seeing what happens in January.

Despite McNamee being a 'luxury player', I agree with Bennett's assessment of O'Brien.

Be interesting to see what the left side would be like with Sheehan at the back and Macklin in front of him.

if we are there or there abouts come the transfer window, i can see fitton being tempted to dip into his pockets

I think he looked like a player trying too hard to impress before he got injured.

However I am nearly positive with a run in the side and a bit of learning he will be an excellent player, just needs first team football.

I don't give a shit about Leeds, but do about STFC....however you dress it up losing 3-0 at Rovers isn't great.   Fair play for being in the :clap: fraternity, but I'll stick with being pissed off with losing 3-0 to the Gasheads.

You are defying your own logic now Reg.

Did you ever see him play away from home Batch?

He does seem to play better away from home. I dont know if thats linked to a poor debut at home to Leyton Orient or not.

I don't think I have.

I'm not so sure. I think he may wait till the summer. I think we'll be top 10 this season so that's deffo progress on the last and then we can try and keep the core of this team together and spend a little in the summer to get those 2 or 3 players that we need to make up a good team for this level.

No-one's argued any different. I'm well fucked off we lost yesterday for the reasons I posted yesterday in this thread, but it doesn't mean the season's a write-off. And I think most people feel the same

I have not even made a comment on yesterdays result as most normal people would obviously realise i am pissed off as much as the next person.What i have commented on is peoples opinions that we have been lucky and people who think that because we lose away to rovers that we can't possibly be challenging for the play offs.

I suggest instead of looking up stupid fucking smileys you try and find where i tried covering up yesterdays result.

Last time we lost to rovers we got promoted

Its a sign

I dunno i got a feeling he will.By january wilson would of no doubt told fitton who he is likely to be releasing in the summer so maybe fitton will spend some money knowing we have a batch of high earners fucking off in the summer

I'm more than happy with the season so far. Rome wasn't built in a day and nor will STFC. The left hand side is our weakest link but I feel sorry for JFL - in equal measure great and crap. Macca was pretty crap all season in front of him and the last thing you want from a developing player is to do the work of two. I'd happilly see Sheehan at LB over JFL but JFL is not the anti Christ.
There are some great building blocks in place for next season, which is a more realistic play off/ promotion proposition.
I'm happy with my lot and I'm really enjoying watching STFC again as are the people I go with. My glass is half full whereas at the start of last season it was absolutely empty.   

Draw a line under this one.

Sheehan wasn't signed on loan just for the sake of it, it will be a surprise if Sheehan doesn't start at left back on Saturday, with JFL on the bench.  Expect Sheehan to be a permanent signing in January.

Why take Austin off?  No early goal, let's see what Ward can do and give Charlie a breather.  Wilson was thinking about the next game from about 4.15 p.m. yesterday afternoon.

It is annoying losing to Rovers, but there's always the return game to look forward to.  If we had drawn the last two we would have had one less point and less moaning.  

Well if he does I won't be one to complain.

I'm sure someone will

he appears to have a big more a touch but considering how we forgot how to pass yesterday i don't think he'd have a lovely time..plus he's right footed and would be pretty easily found out

in short- i have no idea what the best left sided option is, i imagine wilson is enjoying my company in this boat

I am pissed off by losing to the gas.

Yes JLF LFJ LJF had a shit game.

Yes our defence seems to be letting in a few easy goals lately, but I wasnt expecting us to be challenging for the play-off spots before the season started so I will take the position we are in and hope we can keep the pressure on the top 6 what with having 2 games in hand of all of them bar Leeds.

You dont need to play well and win consistantly, you just need to win and if you win dirty or crappy then so be it, a win is a win.

This time 2 years ago I was fucking shitting myself that we wouldn't even have a football club to follow, the txt's from mates in the club saying about how perilously close we actually did come to folding, and then Fitton pulling out around the Forest Green FA Cup game.

I will take where we are right now thank you very much.

I just hope the players WANT to play for the club and can come back with a great win next week...onwards and upwards.

Had a nasty feeling about this match..

Didnt go due to drinking commitments at the Xmas do that saw Mrs Flash blow chunks over the front of the Premier Inn Stoke.

Listened to the first half in disbelief!

Onwards and Upwards.

Agree with that, JJ. Fucking good post.

We all moan like cunts from match to match, but we're in a much healthier position now as a club than we were a couple of years ago - which, in a weird way, allows us all to moan like cunts about the football, the results and the players.

I'm deffo happy with our progress considering the depths of the cunting great big black hole we've emerged from.

I dont think anyone is really, honestly that pissed off with our progress at the moment. The banter and debate is what being a fucking Town supporter is all about, surely? :D

Just a thought, but I wonder if a straight swap for Sheehan at left back and JFL in left midfield might work? JFL has all the right qualities going forward but defends like a cunt at times, wheras Sheehan looks solid at left back and has the experience in that position. If JFL does the good things in midfield without the responsibility of having to defend, it could work well.

Disappointed with the attendance. Aren't we a big draw for the Bristol public?

You should have seen us in the Hobgoblin pub before the match. No bugger in there but bloody good beer, ace jukebox, loads of pool and no mention of football.  :D

Yeah I went to Wetherspoons me and the lads had a good tear up with them lot.

promotion!!!