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« Reply #12525 on: Saturday, October 22, 2022, 16:57:07 »

About half of which have said so publicly... we'll see.

Exciting times! Great time to be a political journalist.
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« Reply #12526 on: Saturday, October 22, 2022, 20:04:04 »

if BJ does get back in I hope to see most on here take to the streets
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« Reply #12527 on: Sunday, October 23, 2022, 07:48:18 »

These cunts are useless.

GE needed now, let the public have their say.

With respect the public did, at the time voting a Boris lead Tory party to a huge majority. The Tories are under no obligation to hold another GE until January 2025. Unfortunately people vote a party into power not the leader so I’m guessing we have to suck it up for a long time yet.
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« Reply #12528 on: Sunday, October 23, 2022, 08:20:33 »

 Do you really want a minority government.
Trust me when I say that you would be better off with Johnson as PM than a Liberal Green
Labour MMP style of government.
NZ has gone backwards 35years in the la 5 years under this combination
Australia has followed recently followed here and they will follow this decaying situation.
Just make Johnson accountable and keep your eyes open
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« Reply #12529 on: Sunday, October 23, 2022, 09:00:26 »

Do you really want a minority government.
Trust me when I say that you would be better off with Johnson as PM than a Liberal Green
Labour MMP style of government.
NZ has gone backwards 35years in the la 5 years under this combination
Australia has followed recently followed here and they will follow this decaying situation.
Just make Johnson accountable and keep your eyes open
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Where is this minority government coming from?

Its unlikely to be repeated in any GE mainly, due to the Schrodingers Tories, but a great deal of recent polling has has the Tories on seats in single figures (one recently has them on 0 seats).

As it stands its potentially the case that it would be Blackford sat where Starmer sits at the moment.
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« Reply #12530 on: Sunday, October 23, 2022, 09:06:51 »

With respect the public did, at the time voting a Boris lead Tory party to a huge majority. The Tories are under no obligation to hold another GE until January 2025. Unfortunately people vote a party into power not the leader so I’m guessing we have to suck it up for a long time yet.

Over 50% didn't.  What we as suffering is a fault of our electoral system.
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« Reply #12531 on: Sunday, October 23, 2022, 09:12:08 »

Over 50% didn't.  What we as suffering is a fault of our electoral system.

Circa 50% never do. The electorate rejected PR not that long ago. While either of the big two think they can get a majority at a GE under the FPTP system PR is never going to see the light of day. Only the Lib Dem’s regularly shout about it.
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« Reply #12532 on: Sunday, October 23, 2022, 12:14:28 »

Circa 50% never do. The electorate rejected PR not that long ago. While either of the big two think they can get a majority at a GE under the FPTP system PR is never going to see the light of day. Only the Lib Dem’s regularly shout about it.

None of which invalidates my point.
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« Reply #12533 on: Sunday, October 23, 2022, 13:29:42 »

None of which invalidates my point.

TBH I didn’t read it.
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« Reply #12534 on: Sunday, October 23, 2022, 14:23:01 »

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 Do you really want a minority government.
Trust me when I say that you would be better off with Johnson as PM than a Liberal Green
Labour MMP style of government.
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conversely while they sold their soul, the lib dem coalition with the Tory party stopped a lot of damage and kept them in check.

I'll give it a go with Labour
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« Reply #12535 on: Sunday, October 23, 2022, 14:31:54 »

This having 100 backers so BJ can run again. I take it he has to prove he actually has 100. Do the names get published or something?

Just the sort of thing he’d lie about.
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« Reply #12536 on: Sunday, October 23, 2022, 15:45:19 »

This having 100 backers so BJ can run again. I take it he has to prove he actually has 100. Do the names get published or something?

Just the sort of thing he’d lie about.

Not made public, only the proposer and seconders are a matter of public record. Then a vote of MPs on Monday administered by the 1922 committee, so they need to be 'real' votes then - of course some MPs may vote privately for a different candidate to their public statements, but can't imagine it'll be hugely different.

I still don't think he's making 100, but it'll be close.

Sunak's strategy is clearly to get so many public nominations from MP that Boris doesn't even officially stand for fear of an embarrassing loss. It's notable that he hasn't officially said he's standing yet, and I think he'll do a 'this is not the time' type speech if he's not getting on the ballot.
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« Reply #12537 on: Sunday, October 23, 2022, 15:48:44 »

Has Penny got more than 30 votes yet! and the question I have was why Sunak wasn't elected over Truss when they had their chance to elect him🤔
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« Reply #12538 on: Sunday, October 23, 2022, 15:51:21 »

Has Penny got more than 30 votes yet! and the question I have was why Sunak wasn't elected over Truss when they had their chance to elect him🤔

Because the Sunak/Truss vote was by Tory members rather than MPs. This method of deciding who is going to be PM is different.
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« Reply #12539 on: Sunday, October 23, 2022, 15:56:04 »

Because the Sunak/Truss vote was by Tory members rather than MPs. This method of deciding who is going to be PM is different.

I thought the final say is decided by the Tory members online next week once 3 has been whittled down to 2
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