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« Reply #211 on: Friday, April 28, 2017, 20:23:36 » |
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A good enough reason on its own to not vote Tory and stop the destruction of the NHS. For personal profit.
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Reg Smeeton
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« Reply #212 on: Friday, April 28, 2017, 20:46:41 » |
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A good enough reason on its own to not vote Tory and stop the destruction of the NHS. For personal profit.
I also find it curious that people with kids will seemingly vote for Grammar Schools.... I guess they think their kids will be going, when of course it's axiomatic that more won't. This seems to be May's sole policy pronouncement.
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« Reply #213 on: Saturday, April 29, 2017, 16:24:01 » |
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This election is going to be largely about Brexit. I voted remain, but I am so pissed off with the rhetoric coming out of the EU with regards to punishing Britain for simply following the democratic will of the people. Realistically the conservatives are the only party who will stand up and fight for Britain. Lib dems don't want us to leave the EU and Corbyn is a complete wet idiot. I would happily vote labour in a local election but under no circumstances would I want Corbyn to be our P.M. And let's face it, he won't be.
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« Reply #214 on: Saturday, April 29, 2017, 23:32:16 » |
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Got into this earlier with a mate - his opinion is "well, I'm alright and so is my family, so I see no reason to change" - fucking look and you'll find them! Mind you, he wants healthcare provided through work and loves zero hours contract. Warned him his son will suffer with education cuts, but think I was on a hiding to nothing there.
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« Reply #215 on: Sunday, April 30, 2017, 05:54:57 » |
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Got into this earlier with a mate - his opinion is "well, I'm alright and so is my family, so I see no reason to change" - fucking look and you'll find them! Mind you, he wants healthcare provided through work and loves zero hours contract. Warned him his son will suffer with education cuts, but think I was on a hiding to nothing there.
He loves zero hours contracts? Is he on one?
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ibelieveinmrreeves
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« Reply #216 on: Sunday, April 30, 2017, 09:34:29 » |
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He loves zero hours contracts? Is he on one?
Nah, manages people who are.
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« Reply #217 on: Sunday, April 30, 2017, 10:19:46 » |
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Nah, manages people who are.
Yeah. No wonder he loves them, makes his job easier. Doesn't matter I suppose that those he manages would struggle to plan financially, or socially and would have problems securing credit, or even renting housing. I wonder if he'd be so enamoured if he was on a zero hours contract. Somehow I doubt it..
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« Reply #218 on: Sunday, April 30, 2017, 10:29:09 » |
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This election is going to be largely about Brexit. I voted remain, but I am so pissed off with the rhetoric coming out of the EU with regards to punishing Britain for simply following the democratic will of the people. Realistically the conservatives are the only party who will stand up and fight for Britain.
Realistically, it was the Tories that got us into this Brexit mess, and they haven't the first clue as to how to deal with it. I don't see any punishment rhetoric, coming from the EU, more like you can't have your cake and eat it attitude, which seems reasonable enough. The next few years are going to be fun, as the Mail readers come to realise that sadly we can't go back to the 1950's.
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« Reply #219 on: Sunday, April 30, 2017, 10:59:41 » |
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Yeah. No wonder he loves them, makes his job easier. Doesn't matter I suppose that those he manages would struggle to plan financially, or socially and would have problems securing credit, or even renting housing. I wonder if he'd be so enamoured if he was on a zero hours contract. Somehow I doubt it..
But it allows them to have the flexibility they want!
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« Reply #220 on: Sunday, April 30, 2017, 12:11:57 » |
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Got into this earlier with a mate - his opinion is "well, I'm alright and so is my family, so I see no reason to change" - fucking look and you'll find them! Mind you, he wants healthcare provided through work and loves zero hours contract. Warned him his son will suffer with education cuts, but think I was on a hiding to nothing there.
This is the stance that many hold today and it's completely selfish. These are the same people that say "Charity starts at home" and "Well it's not happening here so it doesn't matter" No, sorry, charity starts where it's needed and that will always be the case. If that so happens to be at home sometimes then so be it but people who say that as a given irk me. Yeah we start a war (or join one) in another country and strangely enough the people residing there flee. When they turn up here people then have the cheek to complain. So to surmise; If people had been happy to let charity be spent away and protested against a war in another country then maybe, just maybe those people fleeing would not be fleeing and turning up on our doorstep. I understand your predicament though, I have similar "discussions" with family members. It's so disheartening yet the saddest thing is they don't seem capable of having a more open mind
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« Reply #221 on: Sunday, April 30, 2017, 14:37:23 » |
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This election is going to be largely about Brexit. I voted remain, but I am so pissed off with the rhetoric coming out of the EU with regards to punishing Britain for simply following the democratic will of the people.
As a long-term leaver, I take the view the EU has simply stated the facts to a Tory government that is in denial about how the EU works - a party which has long been in denial about our relationship. The EU is not being unreasonable - quite the opposite it's our own side that is clueless. Merkel et al is simply telling us to grow up about the realities of negotiations. I tend to agree with that.
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« Reply #222 on: Sunday, April 30, 2017, 14:40:41 » |
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I would be interested if Hobodan were able to give just one example of any EU official talking about punishing the UK?
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« Reply #223 on: Sunday, April 30, 2017, 17:14:59 » |
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Oh come on 😂 Have you not seen Merkels latest statement about about the UK having unrealistic expectations? In fairness it's been a constant stream of EU officials spouting how the Uk are going to get a bad deal. I never knew we had so many wet lefties around these parts......
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« Reply #224 on: Sunday, April 30, 2017, 17:49:13 » |
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I think it's unrealistic to expect the EU to bend over and be rogered by the uk? Which they've consistently said, since well before the referendum? It's just common sense, and failure to see that is typical of 90% of the morons who voted to leave
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