Let's Get Political!

[Batch]

well, if she's annoyed the hard right it can't be all bad

[Sir red ken]

well, if she's annoyed the hard right it can't be all bad

Let hope she's pissed of the evil hard left as well then we can all feel good.

[horlock07]

The Tories will never ever recover from this.

Fingers crossed, if she can trick Corbyn into fronting it and ensure they never recover as well, at least there will be positives from all this.

[pauld]

May and Corbyn working together -it's the dream team par excellence. She's clearly given up any hope of getting anything through, she knows it's going to be a car crash and she's trying to suck Corbyn into sharing the blame when it all goes tits up (for the 48th time).

[pauld]

Just watched TM's speech and I can confirm that she's a reminer liar. The Tories will never ever recover from this. It is straightforward treason and a clear defiance of democracy.

You should drape your underpants on some railings and make pointed comments to a Commons tour guide. Your mate Combes Up put the fear of God into the EU like that

[chalkies_shorts]

May and Corbyn the Williams and Sherwood of politics.

[BambooToTheFuture]

Anyone on here young enough (possibly old enough too) to remember a programme called 'Round the Twist' at all?

The theme music is very much a description of Brexit or at least how it makes many of us feel!

[michael]

Yes it can. Thursday they could vote to extend, this can only go up until the EU elections in the summer, at which point the PM will no doubt push her deal again, except this time it will be with no opportunity to extend again. That, is the cliff edge.

Called it. 

[michael]

May and Corbyn working together -it's the dream team par excellence. She's clearly given up any hope of getting anything through, she knows it's going to be a car crash and she's trying to suck Corbyn into sharing the blame when it all goes tits up (for the 48th time).

The big question is, what is in it for Corbyn/Labour to save May/The Tory Party. GE?

[Abrahammer]

You would like to think the potential wellbeing of the country but this is politics so Corbyn/Labour will want something for themselves out of it

[Combe Up]

I wonder if any motion the Speaker chose not to have debated would actually have passed.

[pauld]

I wonder if any motion the Speaker chose not to have debated would actually have passed.

The mood MPs are in at the moment, I doubt they could unite around a motion that the sky is blue

[jayohaitchenn]

May and Corbyn the Williams and Sherwood of politics.

Perfect comparison. Corbyn hopelessly out of his depth but seems like a nice guy, May just an objectionable arse who thinks extremely highly of herself.

[horlock07]

One stat from the commentary was that MEPs' ages range from 26 to 92.

Where are the UK MEPs in all of the discussions?

Have any of you been to the European Parliament? Bogey Dave, what did you think of it?

A lot of them have been very vocal, however as they tend on the whole to actually have a clue how the EU and its component parts work in reality, the MSM have tended to avoid them like the plague and instead just go to Daniel Hannan (if Nigel is too busy doing QT), who rivals Farage in a) never turning up to represent those who elected him and b) in being entirely clueless of how the organisation he is part of actually works.

Yeah I have been the the European parliament, its just like any other institutional governmental building, just with fewer civil servants milling about.

[horlock07]

Can kicking-tastic.

Still wants the WA through. Maybe at cost of agreeing softer brexit after. I'd be wanting legal assurances on her keeping her word.

But how the hell can the EU agree to this?

Thing is as she promised to resign after phase 1 she actually cannot promise Corbyn anything, its whether Milne is clever enough to recognise this?

Macron can provide the ultimate irony by not agreeing to an extension thereby triggering no deal. Maybe the EU can do what we can't and use our best bargaining tool against us.

It already seems to be unravelling anyway as the EU have stated Brexit extension to May 22 (which was first offered at the last EU summit & is back in play if TM can convince EU that her new plan can deliver the deal) is ONLY an option if the UK commits to European Elections, also looks like even if she persuades them she can get things through at a date (April 12th is it?) to avoid participation they are going to demand she goes through the motions, legislation and preparation anyway so the protection is there in case she fails in her promises - the problem of being caught lying time and time again is that no one trusts you anymore to keep your word.

In other news one of the main financial backers of Brexit bets on the pound crashing, must confess never saw that coming...... https://www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2018/09/09/hedge-funds-wager-3bn-pound-plunging-year-amid-no-deal-brexit/