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« Reply #15 on: Sunday, January 15, 2006, 19:58:35 »

Whatever Dave, fact is sending someone off for being happy about scoring is a complete joke. So what if it's the rules, the rules should be changed or at least use some discretion, i.e. don't send someone off for scoring. Common sense, simple common sense.

If this wasn't Chelsea I imagine people would see how stupid it is. As it was, it didn't make any difference but it's still a ridiculous rule. I'm not so much complaining about the referee but the whole rule about bookings for celebrating like that. What's the point.
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« Reply #16 on: Sunday, January 15, 2006, 20:01:10 »

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they know the rules! i'm listening to it so i've yet to see what he actually did. BUT the commentators are saying "oh that's silly" etc, BUT as i say...the players know what they're allowed to do or not.

plus it's chelsea they're going to win everything anyway, who fucking cares
If you celebrate with the fans its a yellow card. The rule is there, the players should know not to do it.
It is their job NOT to do it.

Referee did nothing wrong.


were you adding to my point or taking exception to it?!

dmr has managed to, in his outraged state, say what i planned to. good work youngling


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« Reply #17 on: Sunday, January 15, 2006, 21:47:12 »

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Whatever Dave, fact is sending someone off for being happy about scoring is a complete joke. So what if it's the rules, the rules should be changed or at least use some discretion, i.e. don't send someone off for scoring. Common sense, simple common sense.

If this wasn't Chelsea I imagine people would see how stupid it is. As it was, it didn't make any difference but it's still a ridiculous rule. I'm not so much complaining about the referee but the whole rule about bookings for celebrating like that. What's the point.


yes it's stupid but the point is that they know what to expect....so they should realise not to do it. common sense from the players (cos there's near enough none at the FA) is all that can be done
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« Reply #18 on: Sunday, January 15, 2006, 21:53:29 »

I thought Robben's 2nd booking was harsh but funny!, although it does state in the rules that you're not allowed to jump into the fans to celebrate.

Mcdermott got booked when he did it against City so why should it be any different in the Premiership?.
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« Reply #19 on: Sunday, January 15, 2006, 21:58:58 »

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I thought Robben's 2nd booking was harsh but funny!, although it does state in the rules that you're not allowed to jump into the fans to celebrate.

Mcdermott got booked when he did it against City so why should it be any different in the Premiership?.
Exactly. And you can't make an exception for somebody who has already been booked. That would be even more ridiculous. Then you would have arguments about what other rules should be applied like that.

The rules say he had to go. End of.
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« Reply #20 on: Sunday, January 15, 2006, 22:01:37 »

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I thought Robben's 2nd booking was harsh but funny!, although it does state in the rules that you're not allowed to jump into the fans to celebrate.

Mcdermott got booked when he did it against City so why should it be any different in the Premiership?.
Exactly. And you can't make an exception for somebody who has already been booked. That would be even more ridiculous. Then you would have arguments about what other rules should be applied like that.

The rules say he had to go. End of.


I was getting pissed off with Andy Gray keep going on and on about how harsh it was!, you cant not book him just because he's already been booked.
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« Reply #21 on: Sunday, January 15, 2006, 22:03:03 »

unless it's michael essien or chelsea are at home
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« Reply #22 on: Sunday, January 15, 2006, 22:13:11 »

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I thought Robben's 2nd booking was harsh but funny!, although it does state in the rules that you're not allowed to jump into the fans to celebrate.

Mcdermott got booked when he did it against City so why should it be any different in the Premiership?.
Exactly. And you can't make an exception for somebody who has already been booked. That would be even more ridiculous. Then you would have arguments about what other rules should be applied like that.

The rules say he had to go. End of.
Which just highlights why the rules should be changed. If this was Swindon you'd be perfectly happy with it would you, if a player was sent off after scoring to put us in the lead and then we conceded soon after. I wouldn't.
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« Reply #23 on: Sunday, January 15, 2006, 22:16:48 »

Its the rules though Ben and the players should know that by now!.
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« Reply #24 on: Sunday, January 15, 2006, 22:18:23 »

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Its the rules though Ben and the players should know that by now!.


i'd like to second this
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« Reply #25 on: Sunday, January 15, 2006, 22:20:39 »

When Mcdermott was interviewed after the Brizzle game he said something along the lines of "i knew i was going to bet booked but i thought sod it".
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« Reply #26 on: Sunday, January 15, 2006, 22:20:42 »

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Chelsea manager Jose Mourinho on Robben's dismissal:
"Under the rules, the referee had no option. I don't like the rule because part of the show is the players' relationship with the crowd.
"Arjen has to learn when he already has a yellow card, he has to control himself.

"It's an experience for him, next time he has a yellow card and scores he has to make sure he stays on the pitch."
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« Reply #27 on: Sunday, January 15, 2006, 22:24:55 »

No I wouldn't be HAPPY if a Town player was sent off, but they are the rules so you can't argue with the referee.
I would be more pissed off with the player myself.
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« Reply #28 on: Sunday, January 15, 2006, 22:51:35 »

Well according to match of the day by the rules he should not have been booked because he didn't climb over, or onto the railings, only an advertising hoarding. Also, the rules apparently do say that the referee should use his discretion. So a very poor decision by the referee. End of.  Tongue
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« Reply #29 on: Monday, January 16, 2006, 02:43:00 »

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Well according to match of the day by the rules he should not have been booked because he didn't climb over, or onto the railings, only an advertising hoarding. Also, the rules apparently do say that the referee should use his discretion. So a very poor decision by the referee. End of.  Tongue


Surely that very argument condemns the first. The referee felt that he shouldn't have done that and that's his decision. From the sound of it getting the fans worked up can have a negative effect (from tales of yesterday).
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