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« on: Tuesday, November 5, 2024, 12:34:19 »

The feeling here is that Trump will get in for a second term. But I doubt many people will be surprised if Harris wins. One way or another, I’m anticipating a strange day at work tomorrow!
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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday, November 5, 2024, 12:52:01 »

Out of interest,  when you say "the feeling here".... Where is "here"?... For me, a Trump victory doesn't bear thinking about
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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday, November 5, 2024, 12:58:23 »

Out of interest,  when you say "the feeling here".... Where is "here"?... For me, a Trump victory doesn't bear thinking about

Just outside of DC, so very much in the thick of things.

Some businesses are boarding up in anticipation of trouble. It’s very surreal.
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday, November 5, 2024, 13:04:09 »

Interesting... Couldn't be much more in the thick of it than that.... I don't think Trump will win and I'm not a religious person but I'm praying he doesn't...
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday, November 5, 2024, 13:09:49 »

I thought Trump getting in the first time was until I went to New York the Feb before and put their news on in the hotel room. Very quickly realised it was no joke. We're very far removed from it here.

They're both terrible. The democrats are some of the most despicable people on the planet. I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist but there is a lot of crossover between celebrities promoting Harris and those being investigated for pedophilia and human trafficking. Not to mention the amount of people that have mysteriously committed suicide close to the Clintons.

Its the same bullshit we get here where people like to portray the left as sugar and spice and all things nice vs the evil right, when in reality the overwhelming majority of politicians on both sides are utter scum.

I'm not a fan of Trump but I'll shrug my shoulders either way.
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday, November 5, 2024, 13:17:06 »

I thought Trump getting in the first time was until I went to New York the Feb before and put their news on in the hotel room. Very quickly realised it was no joke. We're very far removed from it here.

They're both terrible. The democrats are some of the most despicable people on the planet. I'm not much of a conspiracy theorist but there is a lot of crossover between celebrities promoting Harris and those being investigated for pedophilia and human trafficking. Not to mention the amount of people that have mysteriously committed suicide close to the Clintons.

Its the same bullshit we get here where people like to portray the left as sugar and spice and all things nice vs the evil right, when in reality the overwhelming majority of politicians on both sides are utter scum.

I'm not a fan of Trump but I'll shrug my shoulders either way.

I’m not a very political person, I let most of it go over my head. What I do know is how incredibly toxic it is here. I thought it was divisive in the UK but that doesn’t hold a candle to the utter hatred many people feel for those on the other side. Absolutely no chance of that changing for at least a generation
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday, November 5, 2024, 13:27:06 »

I was sort of enjoying the TEF being the one place on the internet not talking about this, but I guess it's the actual day of so probably not too bad. One mad thing about US elections is just how long they run for - I'm sure this campaign started about two years ago.

I try very hard not to let things I don't have control over worry me - there's plenty of fucking dreadful things going on in the world that I can't affect. But a second Trump term does scare me - not so much for the just general deep unpleasantness of the man but for what it would mean for European alliances - if he gets in and withdraws from either or both of the Paris climate change agreements or NATO then we have real problems.

Harris is the more status quo option foreign policy wise, and I can really see the attraction of a change to that status quo, but not every change is for the better and it's hard to imagine a second term would be.
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday, November 5, 2024, 13:34:39 »

I’m not a very political person, I let most of it go over my head. What I do know is how incredibly toxic it is here. I thought it was divisive in the UK but that doesn’t hold a candle to the utter hatred many people feel for those on the other side. Absolutely no chance of that changing for at least a generation

Yeah I always think its terrible here with huge division and usually two terrible legitimate choices and then on the states side its so much worse.
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday, November 5, 2024, 13:38:15 »

It's crazy to think that people will actually vote for a man like Trump. He's about as bad a person that you can get, but obviously has some appeal to some.

The business I work for trades in the US, and Trump is talking about applying tariffs to all and sundry so we're desperately hoping he won't get in. From a personal perspective, I just want the man to disappear. Vile.
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday, November 5, 2024, 13:39:18 »

Yeah I always think its terrible here with huge division and usually two terrible legitimate choices and then on the states side its so much worse.

And as bad as it is here in Virginia where the winner is pretty much a foregone conclusion (Harris) I can’t imagine what it’s like in the swing states like’s Pennsylvania
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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday, November 5, 2024, 13:41:10 »

And as bad as it is here in Virginia where the winner is pretty much a foregone conclusion (Harris) I can’t imagine what it’s like in the swing states like’s Pennsylvania
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday, November 5, 2024, 13:45:01 »

Swindon is the UK equivalent of a swing state funnily enough. When was the last time Swindon went against the overall winner?
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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday, November 5, 2024, 13:46:41 »

Swindon is the UK equivalent of a swing state funnily enough. When was the last time Swindon went against the overall winner?

1979 I think. It was one seat then, gone for the winner every election since 1997 when they split for sure.
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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday, November 5, 2024, 14:21:27 »

I’m not a very political person, I let most of it go over my head. What I do know is how incredibly toxic it is here. I thought it was divisive in the UK but that doesn’t hold a candle to the utter hatred many people feel for those on the other side. Absolutely no chance of that changing for at least a generation
British politics is like a WI meeting compared to US politics...thank God! It is utterly toxic and the possible consequences of a Trump win are pretty terrifying for the whole world (the USA pulling out of NATO is unthinkable)

The whole Trump/MAGA thing is utterly baffling to me, it totally blows my mind. In 2016, I absolutely detested Trump even then and didn't want him to win but I could see why he might appeal to some people...i.e. he was not a politician as such, he was from the outside and would come in and give the political machine the shake up it so badly needed etc....but now, everyone has seen his true colours (mainly orange!)....and yet he has a massive following. It is a cult though...a cult which thrives on ignorance, bigotry and hate...There is no Republican party any more, it's been hijacked by a bunch of freaks, fraudsters and criminals...
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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday, November 5, 2024, 15:18:51 »

Unless there is a clear run away leader which I doubt this will probably drag on until Dec or Jan next year.  We all know Trump will contest every Harris win

This could be another Al Gore v George W Bush election where is took until December to announce even though polling day was 7th November
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