Franchise v Swindon Town Matchday thread

[Batch]

 

Unfortunately due to the transfer window, there is nothing Swindon can do until January time.  I'm sure there is excess funds which can be used on transfers and hopefully Flynn will spend that money wisely.

I think we've gone round this in circles, but I'm kind of interested in the reasoning as to why you think there's excess budget.

nobody hopes you're wrong btw. And nobody can prove it either way - the proof will be in the pudding.
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I don't think Clem has millions lying around  to chuck in, so that side is moot. I'm basing that on past events.
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[theakston2k]

Unfortunately due to the transfer window, there is nothing Swindon can do until January time.  I'm sure there is excess funds which can be used on transfers and hopefully Flynn will spend that money wisely.

That line alone shows you’re just trolling. Morfuni’s track record is a January fire sale and lose our better loan players resulting in us coming out of January weaker than we were before it. If he achieves that again this season it’ll be some going.

Before all the dodgy news starting coming to the fore he couldn’t get his face in front of people enough, now he’s been found out he’s basically gone into hiding. He’s replaced the CE and CFO who were Town fans who’s priority would have been STFC with two Axis yes men which alone should send alarm bells ringing for everyone.

[Pericardinho]

I would personally never expect any chairman to be open and upfront about budgets with fans and the outside public.  This could impact our ability to sign players, negotiations when we sell players etc.

Its Clem's job to get bums on seats.

If Clem was taking money out of the business (like the Glazers do with Man Utd) then its a complete different story.  However as far as I am aware, Clem hasn't withdrawn any salary/dividends from Swindon and is owed a substantial amount in Directors loans.  His end goal is to try and take Swindon to the next level (which I am guessing would be a Championship side) with the hope of selling the club for a profit.  The chances of this happening are slim in the short term, but with a decent 15-20 year plan this could be possible.  The problem is fans naturally want success this season.

If Swindon were in the premiership now (ie like Luton), fans would still complain that things could always be better.  

I don't even understand what you're saying?

So we should just be fine with whatever we're told, even if it's a lie just because we might end up being good in 15 years time if we flog a few players and stumble across a promotion against the odds.

Sounds fantastic. Sign me up for 20 years of that.

[Stef Troll]

I don't even understand what you're saying?

So we should just be fine with whatever we're told, even if it's a lie just because we might end up being good in 15 years time if we flog a few players and stumble across a promotion against the odds.

Sounds fantastic. Sign me up for 20 years of that.

Again, are your privvy to Swindon's finances?  Most people seem to think that as we have one of the highest average home gates we should therefore have one of the bigger playing budgets in the league.  This would be correct if Swindon were profit making and solvent.  However due to piss poor financial management in the past, I'm pretty sure some of the excess ticket sales revenue which Swindon have experienced since Clem took over has been reinvested back into the club to pay off historic trading debts rather then on player recruitment.

The issue is all fans demand success from their clubs now.  Most fans would be happy for their chairman to be reckless and invest lots of money in the hope of success.  However those same fans will then complain when everything comes tumbling down and their club goes into admin or even worse end up like Bury.  Lets wait and see what happens to Salford in a few years time when Neville and Co stop financing the club.  They will end up back in the Conference North.  Some may argue that they had a few good days out in league 2 and won some good cup games in the FA Cup/EFL cup.  However in the grand scheme of things will it be worth it ? 

 

[STFC_Manc]

Care to explain what you disagree with?

No, it's not worth the time or effort.

[Trashbat?]

No, it's not worth the time or effort.

The Clem police are out protecting their master again.

Just a reminder that you are protecting a man who was more than happy to lie and throw the former CEO under a bus.

[STFC_Manc]

The Clem police are out protecting their master again.

Just a reminder that you are protecting a man who was more than happy to lie and throw the former CEO under a bus.

Ha! This kind of remark just makes me laugh.

[theakston2k]

Ha! This kind of remark just makes me laugh.

True though isn’t it?!

[Legends-Lounge]

I don't even understand what you're saying?

So we should just be fine with whatever we're told, even if it's a lie just because we might end up being good in 15 years time if we flog a few players and stumble across a promotion against the odds.

Sounds fantastic. Sign me up for 20 years of that.

Couple of things there that made me smile.

You honestly think that fans of more successful clubs spend as much wasted time and energy on their clubs finances and dodgy owners than little ole Swindon? And actually get the answers? Oh, by successful I don’t mean the regular trophy winners, just clubs higher up the pyramid than us.

Also welcome to the the stadium of despair. There are those of us who have been supporting town with our time and money since the sixties and seventies and Eighties long before our flirt with the PL. So let me let put it out there for you to ponder. When I started to watch Swindon it was circa 1973 or 1974 it’s a bit vague now please forgive me. We were in Division 2 the old championship and finished bottom and were relegated to division 3 now L1 since then most of our time has been spent yo yoing between L1 & L2. So you don’t want to be signed up for the next twenty years as it stands? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Welcome to our world you whipper snapper. Get used to it because fuck all will change. The only real chance of us getting to the championship at best is going to take £millions to develop the ground and £millions spent on the playing staff and about a minimum of 10 years, if we are lucky.

Sorry to spoil your day.

[Batch]

If we are talking expectations, which really are the driver of moaning, the championship is a distant distant dream.

I'm accepting of that.

league 1 isn't a distant dream. That is where we should be. But we are where we deserve to be right now

Clem has come in and the 6-7m he and keily invested has kept the wolves from the door. Especially removing debts to entities that could close us down (HMRC) and to those that would cause operational issues by closing trading with us and going to court (puma, for e.g).

I doubt anyone wouldn't see this as a massive positive and completely necessary priority 1.

The issue is what happens next, whether Clem and co can stabilise the finances and provide on the pitch.

What's the timeframe on that?

oh and personally the trust I had in the bloke is gone. I guess that's irrelevant until the day it's shown we are being taken as mugs - hopefully that never comes

[Pericardinho]

No, it's not worth the time or effort.

Yeah that's what I thought. If you can't be bothered to articulate your thoughts what's the point on being on here.

[STFC_Manc]

True though isn’t it?!

I wondered how long till you popped up. I unlike a lot of you keyboard warriors on here actually have a balanced view of the world and can look at positives as well as negatives.

[Pericardinho]

Couple of things there that made me smile.

You honestly think that fans of more successful clubs spend as much wasted time and energy on their clubs finances and dodgy owners than little ole Swindon? And actually get the answers? Oh, by successful I don’t mean the regular trophy winners, just clubs higher up the pyramid than us.

Also welcome to the the stadium of despair. There are those of us who have been supporting town with our time and money since the sixties and seventies and Eighties long before our flirt with the PL. So let me let put it out there for you to ponder. When I started to watch Swindon it was circa 1973 or 1974 it’s a bit vague now please forgive me. We were in Division 2 the old championship and finished bottom and were relegated to division 3 now L1 since then most of our time has been spent yo yoing between L1 & L2. So you don’t want to be signed up for the next twenty years as it stands? 🤣🤣🤣🤣 Welcome to our world you whipper snapper. Get used to it because fuck all will change. The only real chance of us getting to the championship at best is going to take £millions to develop the ground and £millions spent on the playing staff and about a minimum of 10 years, if we are lucky.

Sorry to spoil your day.

I mean, again. Thank you for your service? But just because you've had to put up with decades of misery doesn't mean it always has to be that way.

[STFC_Manc]

Yeah that's what I thought. If you can't be bothered to articulate your thoughts what's the point on being on here.

I don't see the point, as you have blinkers on and don't listen to other people's views.

[RobertT]

Actually, he is over stating his misery.  Until the past 6 years or so, we've largely avoided being down in Div 4 for much more than a season, usually going back up as Champions.

Last season was one of the worst on record for our club, in terms of league finish.  The recent trend is far worse than any suffering fans of 50 years+ have experienced.