Franchise v Swindon Town Matchday thread

[Stef Troll]

I think we need to revisit the ‘facts’ of the non offer from the mythical Able. Power’s sole intention was to put the club into admin so he could get rid of his debt to Standing. Sheridactyl was appointed to ensure relegation to make the club unattractive to any other prospective purchaser bar Able.

God knows where we would be now if we’d gone into Admin. Clem saving us from that fate doesn’t absolve him from what is going on now.

What are you exactly expecting from Clem?  When Clem took over the club was £7 million in debt and days away from going into administration.  The club is now in a much healthier financial place.  

Unless your Newcastle, PSG, Man City with monopoly money, you have to budget and live within your means.  

The only thing you can blame Clem for is his managerial appointments.  Garner was a success but he decided to move onto a bigger club.  Lyndsey did ok but the fans didn't rate him.  Morris was a punt that went wrong.

Flynn has done well so far.  He just needs 2/3 more transfer windows to build a squad.  It's a shame there is a transfer window as i'm sure if there wasn't one then we would have signed/loaned some players by now.

[Ides of March]

What are you exactly expecting from Clem?  When Clem took over the club was £7 million in debt and days away from going into administration.  The club is now in a much healthier financial place.  

Unless your Newcastle, PSG, Man City with monopoly money, you have to budget and live within your means.  

The only thing you can blame Clem for is his managerial appointments.  Garner was a success but he decided to move onto a bigger club.  Lyndsey did ok but the fans didn't rate him.  Morris was a punt that went wrong.

Flynn has done well so far.  He just needs 2/3 more transfer windows to build a squad.  It's a shame there is a transfer window as i'm sure if there wasn't one then we would have signed/loaned some players by now.

What I’m expecting is to not be bullshitted about a “competitive budget” which clearly isn’t there, considering outside of Lewis Ward and Jake Young, our bench had a combined 12 EFL appearances behind them.

[Audrey]

What are you exactly expecting from Clem?  When Clem took over the club was £7 million in debt and days away from going into administration.  The club is now in a much healthier financial place.  

Unless your Newcastle, PSG, Man City with monopoly money, you have to budget and live within your means.  

The only thing you can blame Clem for is his managerial appointments.  Garner was a success but he decided to move onto a bigger club.  Lyndsey did ok but the fans didn't rate him.  Morris was a punt that went wrong.

Flynn has done well so far.  He just needs 2/3 more transfer windows to build a squad.  It's a shame there is a transfer window as i'm sure if there wasn't one then we would have signed/loaned some players by now.

What he promised. Honesty and transparency. Simple.

In some ways what happens on the pitch is down to the Gods. Plenty of big budgets achieve little.

[Stef Troll]

What I’m expecting is to not be bullshitted about a “competitive budget” which clearly isn’t there, considering outside of Lewis Ward and Jake Young, our bench had a combined 12 EFL appearances behind them.

Who is to say the budget isn't competitive ?  If you read back through numerous Flynn interviews, he has consistantly said that he wants to sign the right type of player for the right money.  Maybe he is a man of his word and isn't wasting money for the sheer hell of it.  Hopefully this will benefit us in future transfer windows (assuming this unspent money is unavailable).

[Pericardinho]

Who is to say the budget isn't competitive ?  If you read back through numerous Flynn interviews, he has consistantly said that he wants to sign the right type of player for the right money.  Maybe he is a man of his word and isn't wasting money for the sheer hell of it.  Hopefully this will benefit us in future transfer windows (assuming this unspent money is unavailable).

Oh come on. Seriously? there's no way you are this gullible.

[Ides of March]

Who is to say the budget isn't competitive ?  If you read back through numerous Flynn interviews, he has consistantly said that he wants to sign the right type of player for the right money.  Maybe he is a man of his word and isn't wasting money for the sheer hell of it.  Hopefully this will benefit us in future transfer windows (assuming this unspent money is unavailable).

If you think the budget is competitive, fair enough, each to their own. I just can’t see how it is anywhere near competitive when we’re subbing on a 16 year old striker to try and change games for us

[Audrey]

Who is to say the budget isn't competitive ?  If you read back through numerous Flynn interviews, he has consistantly said that he wants to sign the right type of player for the right money.  Maybe he is a man of his word and isn't wasting money for the sheer hell of it.  Hopefully this will benefit us in future transfer windows (assuming this unspent money is unavailable).

So Flynn’s game plan is to spend the first half of the season undermanned. You think that’s his choice?

[Stef Troll]

Oh come on. Seriously? there's no way you are this gullible.

No, I am just realistic.

I think a lot of people on this forum don't really appreciate/understand what it is like to run a multi million pound business, maintaining cashflow, paying creditors etc.  They purely look at the football side of things and think the chairman should just pump money into the club when things aren't going well.  I think people need to be more realistic.  

[Pericardinho]

No, I am just realistic.

I think a lot of people on this forum don't really appreciate/understand what it is like to run a multi million pound business, maintaining cashflow, paying creditors etc.  They purely look at the football side of things and think the chairman should just pump money into the club when things aren't going well.  I think people need to be more realistic.  

We were promised a competitive budget.

The budget isn't competitive.

The end.

If he had come out and was open and transparent about our financial position perhaps he'd get more credit. But he lied to shift season tickets.

[Jilted John]

Who is to say the budget isn't competitive ?  If you read back through numerous Flynn interviews, he has consistantly said that he wants to sign the right type of player for the right money.  Maybe he is a man of his word and isn't wasting money for the sheer hell of it.  Hopefully this will benefit us in future transfer windows (assuming this unspent money is unavailable).

Really, you truly think that? wow you are fucking gullible.

I think a lot of people on this forum don't really appreciate/understand what it is like to run a multi million pound business

And of course you do

[Outletred]

We were promised a competitive budget.

The budget isn't competitive.

The end.

If he had come out and was open and transparent about our financial position perhaps he'd get more credit. But he lied to shift season tickets.

This exactly. He should have just come out and been honest and whilst it may not have been what people wanted to hear they would have given him credit for being up front.

Also “competitive” is open to interpretation. Competitive with promotion, or consolidation?

[Stef Troll]

Really, you truly think that? wow you are fucking gullible.
And of course you do

I don't run a multi million pound business unfortunately.  However I am a Chartered Accountant who works with many such business, helping prepare management accounts, cash flow forecasts, budgets, year end accounts and taxes etc.  Therefore in comparison to most, I understand the importance of finances etc and that the solution isn't just to expect your Chairman to pump millions into the club just to help please fans.  

Unfortunately due to the transfer window, there is nothing Swindon can do until January time.  I'm sure there is excess funds which can be used on transfers and hopefully Flynn will spend that money wisely.

[Batch]

Ultimately Swindon have to live within their means. The majority of football clubs are loss making. Would much prefer to support a stable run club then end up like Bury, Scunthorpe, Oldham, Southend who either don’t exist or are non league sides.  Swindon are a league 1/2 club at best. Our dream is to aspire to be like Luton or Brentford but that is very difficult to do.

we are told we aren't living with our means

[Batch]

Skim watching the game v watching the highlights.

During the game I thought mcecheran had one of his better games.

during the highlights it looks like he was outmusceld for the first* then even though shade was easily beaten on the third, he'd v lost/couldn't keep up with his man hence trying to  cut the ball out instead and putting it in his own net.

*or was it Kinsella

I don't really have a point

[Stef Troll]

This exactly. He should have just come out and been honest and whilst it may not have been what people wanted to hear they would have given him credit for being up front.

Also “competitive” is open to interpretation. Competitive with promotion, or consolidation?

I would personally never expect any chairman to be open and upfront about budgets with fans and the outside public.  This could impact our ability to sign players, negotiations when we sell players etc.

Its Clem's job to get bums on seats.

If Clem was taking money out of the business (like the Glazers do with Man Utd) then its a complete different story.  However as far as I am aware, Clem hasn't withdrawn any salary/dividends from Swindon and is owed a substantial amount in Directors loans.  His end goal is to try and take Swindon to the next level (which I am guessing would be a Championship side) with the hope of selling the club for a profit.  The chances of this happening are slim in the short term, but with a decent 15-20 year plan this could be possible.  The problem is fans naturally want success this season.

If Swindon were in the premiership now (ie like Luton), fans would still complain that things could always be better.