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« on: Wednesday, May 4, 2022, 17:34:04 »

Does anyone here own one?

I need to sell my car (anyone interested in a 2016 Mini JCW?!) and rather than replacing it I was thinking of getting an electric scooter. The savings would be huge.

I know they're not legal but I've seen lots of people going around on them and it seems that, unless you ride it like a prat, the police won't be bothered. By law they are limited to 15.5mph but this can easily be removed. Cheaper ones can reach top speeds of 20-40mph and expensive ones 60mph.

With the weather being a bit warmer now it seems like a good time to test it out as a commuting option. My journey is 8 miles, with a steep hill at the end on the way there. Scooters that are £500/600 new are going for around £250/300 on eBay and the top end of the market ranges from £1k-£4k new.
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« Reply #1 on: Wednesday, May 4, 2022, 17:36:50 »

If not a electric scoooter maybe consider an electric bike 
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« Reply #2 on: Wednesday, May 4, 2022, 19:31:14 »

Buy a moped
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« Reply #3 on: Thursday, May 5, 2022, 06:16:11 »

If not a electric scoooter maybe consider an electric bike 

Am considering that too but also hoping they change the law on scooters soon.
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That’d remove some of the cost savings as I’d have to pay for Road tax, fuel, insurance and MOT (?).
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« Reply #4 on: Thursday, May 5, 2022, 06:21:04 »

Will you use the electric scooter on the road or the pavement?

Both are equal nuisances.
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« Reply #5 on: Thursday, May 5, 2022, 06:34:08 »

How will you cover a claim if you crash?
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« Reply #6 on: Thursday, May 5, 2022, 06:35:09 »

Am considering that too but also hoping they change the law on scooters soon.That’d remove some of the cost savings as I’d have to pay for Road tax, fuel, insurance and MOT (?).

Don't call it road tax as someone (usually a keen push bike rider) will take the opportunity to tell you that this has not existed since the 1930s.

I suspect that a ICE powered moped offers costs savings over the motor car.  Alternatively, there are a number of electric scooters on the market. Yes, you will need insurance and an MOT etc but there are good reasons for that.
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« Reply #7 on: Thursday, May 5, 2022, 07:05:12 »

Will you use the electric scooter on the road or the pavement?

Both are equal nuisances.

I'd use it the same way as a bicycle or e-bicycle, so both. On my route I'd mostly be on a (very generous) cycle path beside a dual carriageway, I'm not going to be terrorising pedestrians or holding up traffic.

That’d remove some of the cost savings as I’d have to pay for Road tax, fuel, insurance and MOT (?).

I was wrong about road 'tax'; there's £0 on an electric moped.


I suspect that a ICE powered moped offers costs savings over the motor car.  

I forgot about the CBT too. Would I be able to ride it on an L plate for a bit, is that still a thing? The cheapest electric mopeds are the price of the bottom of the top range electric scooters, about £2k. I have a couple bookmarked.

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As they're not legal I doubt anyone will insure against them. Do e-bike riders have personal and 'vehicle' insurance? Almost all will only have the bike on their home insurance, at best, which only protects against theft and not collisions.
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« Reply #8 on: Thursday, May 5, 2022, 07:20:11 »

Lexmoto offer a number of electric mopeds and might be worth a look. I looked at one last year.

I think that you need to do the CBT if you passed your test after early 2001.  However, I am not up to date on the rules.
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« Reply #9 on: Thursday, May 5, 2022, 07:28:01 »

As a proper cyclist I have 3rd party insurance through British Cycling.
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« Reply #10 on: Thursday, May 5, 2022, 08:12:02 »

I'd use it the same way as a bicycle or e-bicycle, so both. On my route I'd mostly be on a (very generous) cycle path beside a dual carriageway, I'm not going to be terrorising pedestrians or holding up traffic.

Err, get a bicycle then? Cut your motoring costs and get fit at the same time. Win win.
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« Reply #11 on: Thursday, May 5, 2022, 08:35:31 »

As a proper cyclist I have 3rd party insurance through British Cycling.

As do I through Cycling UK.

Its the thing that always seems to get missed by people clamouring that cyclists don't pay road tax (most would be happy to pay it calculated at the same rate it is calculated for cars) and insurance (most regular cyclists have it through one way or the other, what you would actually be mainly doing is ensuring that little Johnny down the road doesn't ride his bike to school!)
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« Reply #12 on: Thursday, May 5, 2022, 08:39:17 »

Get a Sinclair C5.
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« Reply #13 on: Thursday, May 5, 2022, 09:00:04 »

Get a Sinclair C5.

Be cheaper to buy a car these days!
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« Reply #14 on: Thursday, May 5, 2022, 09:17:45 »

I didn't realise Sir Clive died last year.
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