I can't take it anymore...

[j1mmy]

Spot on. Rushden hardly take thousands

To be honest, Oxford are proberley a bigger club than us thats how pathetic we are now. They have their own stadium for a start

[DV]

We'll find out who is the better team next season in the local derby

[le god cuervo]

We'll find out who is the better team next season in the local derby

will be great next year, swindon, city, rovers, oxford, wycombe, yeovil, cheltenham & northampton all in the same league

[Sade]

I personally don't see reeves as a manager.If we did get a new manager we would need  an alot more experienced one as all the moaners would have high expectations as usual.We can't even afford to lose andy king.I still believe he is really not to blame for the bad performances.I mean look at a few seasons ago,We had mooney and parkin who made a great partnership and we had two class midfielders Igoe and Howard who were in their prime.We won games because they had fight and go in them.Andy king HAS NOT changed but the squad has.We don't have many WOW players do we?we have players who are capable of it though.I think people are expecting way too much.We are quite a poor club and our squad has changed alot,we no longer have sam parkin a player that was an incredible peice of what we had and we no longer have him.We have alot of new players and we lost alot of players last season.They are probably still getting used to playing together and king is trying out different things like a manager should do.I think we need to start getting behind the team more and stop having high expectations.
Now please don't hate me aswell

[sonicyouth]

BBW i thought i was the only one. Good posting.

DV85, seems like every year theres a big King Out moment, this one being the largest since the one where he was actually kicked out.  In the end, it usually works out alright, can you remember a season under King where we haven't had a bad patch? Did this season turn out better than the seasons before King was in charge? Has King spent any money to do this?

I can't remember a season where we've been so bad, except for that really bad patch in 02/03 - a time when I was staunchly pro-King.

We simply can't paper over the cracks when the future of the football club is at stake, I'm not being a fickle twat about any of this but I feel that it would be in the best interest of the club if King went.

Replacing a manager is ALWAYS a gamble but right now it seems worth it.

The argument about money is irrelevent, King's had the budget for transfer fees and wages but he's bringing players to the club then not using them correctly. Anyone see the size of our squad compared to Southend's?

[richiestfc]

been saying it for ages now we need to get rid of king before we end up being relegated cant you king lovers see that!!???  :|

[le god cuervo]

We have alot of new players and we lost alot of players last season.They are probably still getting used to playing together and king is trying out different things like a manager should do

he should have done that in pre-season. and he should know that michael pook isn't a right winger.

i think you made a good point though about the players not having any 'fight' in them. is this down to the fact we have so many loan players in the squad at the moment who dont really give a crap about the club? or is it just because king isn't motivating them enough? discuss...

[Sade]

Yes I did'nt think about that,could be a possibility actually.

[sonicyouth]

I get the impression that attitude filters down from the manager, whenever I see King before games (which is pretty much every week) he really doesn't seem to give a toss about anything, he just sits around or practices his chipping on the pitch.

You can't read much into that but it's the impression I've been left with, he's a very arrogant man.

[Ben Wah Balls]

Sonic the only reason we have a decent size squad is because so many of them we are paying next to nothing.

McDermott, Heath, Heaton, Gurney, Collins, Pook, none of those are on much at all, most of them are having their wages paid by other clubs.

King has been operating with two arms tied behind his back and any new manager will have to do the same. In my opinion we would need an exceptional manager to finish top half. I can't see this board finding one.

Someone convince me. I also can't see Reeves being one, someone convince me.

[DV]

we dont have any fight, because none of the players give a flying fuck

Win, Lose or Draw they still get paid

[sonicyouth]

I'm not talking about the wages, but how often has King used depth and a small squad as an excuse? We've got five strikers yet he plays with one up front. We've got cover in pretty much every position, quite comfortably in fact. None of the players who have stepped in to replace Evans, Jenkins, Mglioranzi etc have disappointed, all have looked capable - especially Pook and Heaton.

Are you saying King is an exceptional manager? I don't think Reeves will be anywhere near exceptional, I just believe he can do a job for us in the short term. I also feel it'd unite the fans again, something that hasn't existed for fucking years now.

[Reg Smeeton]

been saying it for ages now we need to get rid of king before we end up being relegated cant you king lovers see that!!???  :|

 But that's like crying wolf.....if you've been saying it for ages, because its not happened.

 What has happened is that King has been forced to largely dismantle a mid table team, because of budget cuts, and attempt to replace them with players  on less money.....it didn't take a rocket scientist to work out that this was always  going to lead to a difficult season, which is what we've got.

 I tend towards the leave King to attempt to keep us up....even though I would very much prefer a decent new boss.....but a sthings stand we ent going to get one.

[le god cuervo]

King has been operating with two arms tied behind his back and any new manager will have to do the same. In my opinion we would need an exceptional manager to finish top half. I can't see this board finding one.

The key bit there is "this board" finding one, which you are probably right about as they are all such gimps.

But there are plenty of other managers that have done well on a similar budget over the last few years. I'm sure mike newell didnt have a lot to spend last year, but luton still went up. and the season before that neale cooper did well at hartlepool with no money. even southend today are doing well with a small squad.

but then the opposite can also happen & we could get relegated. i think its a chance most fans are willing to take at the moment though because we're so fed up with king. 5 years is more than enough, you've had your chance now bugger off!

[j1mmy]

Ben you have nothing postive to say about King and i dont think even you now have confidence in him. All you can say is "Keep King we wont be sacked". With the players here, and yes he brought them here blah blah, their expierence and quality should make us a better team than we currently are. Bar 5 or 6 every manager has to work a incredibly tight budget and yes King has made one or two good signings but theres not point having them if he will do nothing with them.

We were saved from relegation THAT season but Rovers results, that is a fact. Towards the end of our play off season with King we had a very, very poor run and it was the 3-3 draw we tagged back against Vale that got us in there in the end.