I can't take it anymore...

[Reg Smeeton]

But Gray is an absolute disaster as a media spokesperson having not one shred of credibility......

......even Ed Hadwin says that the runnning of the club is shambolic, and for the local hack to be so critical it must be bad.

[reeves4england]

I hate the fact that we have King as a manager purely for all the arguments it causes!

I really don't know what the best solution is. I can't see how we could do better with anyone else, but I am fed up of this whole thing! :evil:

[Crozzer]

Being detained at her majesty's pleasure means I don't get to see the games

 :shock:

You're allowed to use the net though? Or am I being daft?

Good points about Clough though.

Originally it was to be split between King, Mike Sullivan and Sandy Gray.

Then Gray started to seem to be the sole occupant of the role....hence why she appeared in the team photo.....even though an announcement had never been made to my knowledge.

Getting back Devlin....would be a good move.

Apologies, I got mixed up. That's pretty much all of the people who work at the club mind.

I was under the impression that Bob Holt was bought in as acting chief executive but stepped down due to the fact he has his own business (or another of Diamandis') to run on the I.O.W. Instead of giving the role to one person, the responsibility was split between a number of people to cut cost and presumably blame.

As a result, Gray's ended up being the media spokesperson due to the fact Bob Holt is never around, King makes a fool of himself often enough and Sullivan is only commercial manager.

Actually, I am currently overseas.  I have seen bits of games on Sky sports.  I recorded the entire Notts County F.A. cup replay game, but couldn't bear to watch it until a few weeks ago.   I am not surprised that a bad performance happened today, after 4:5:1 twice, and not playing Shakes (4:4:2 screams out for wingers, and supporting full back play).  Seano being out is also heck of a blow.   The game against Wycombe was ludicrous.  The old Div IV used to be full of knackers, but that just isn't the case anymore, there isn't much to choose between DiV I and Div II, especially with all the foreign players, and smaller squads with less money.  I think that Swansea made that clear today.

[sonicyouth]

But Gray is an absolute disaster as a media spokesperson having not one shred of credibility......

......even Ed Hadwin says that the runnning of the club is shambolic, and for the local hack to be so critical it must be bad.

Gray's been forced into a role she's not got the personality/skills for, to criticise her for that is harsh but it's true, she really shouldn't be the head spokesperson for a football club.

Hadwin's right about something for once.

[reeves4england]

Devlin would sort it out!

[Spud]

Bring back Devlin!  

[Reg Smeeton]

Bring back Devlin!  

 I always thought and posted it, that Devlin was doing the job on the basis that he'd get a good cut of the potential profits from Shaw Tip, rather than a fat salary....and once it failed he'd be off which was how it proved.

 I just don't think we have the money to employ someone like him....unless he has no better options.

[Tails]

Totally agree. Even I was a kingy fan but I think he should do the honourable thing and walk before it gets heated.

[Spud]

Totally agree. Even I was a kingy fan but I think he should do the honourable thing and walk before it gets heated.

He wont get a job anywhere else so he's not going to leave which is a fucking shame. :evil:

[STFC Village]

I also feel it'd unite the fans again, something that hasn't existed for fucking years now.

This is why i think Reeves becoming manager would be a positive step. The fans love him, so he would have our backing from the off. The players know, and respect him, so he would have their backing. This would surely eradicate the current bad feeling thats been wafting around the County Ground for the last year or so and give the team and the fans a lift.

I'm not saying that Reeves would be a long-term success, but he could do a job in the short term imo. Whatever, its got to be better than whats happening at the moment......

[Leggett]

i've tried to keep away from the kingy out chants. i've tried to remain positive about this season, i've been telling myself that it'll be ok. but i just cant see that anymore. we are going to struggle this season, and i really dont think king is the best man to lead us through this struggle. when was the last time he named an unchanged squad? even if injury has forced his hand, the choices he has made have been very very poor. you play to your strengths, ane of which is not playing players out of their best positions. king just doesnt seem to notice, or care, that certain players play better in their nromal positions.


i think king needs to leave, and tge board need to look for people who are willing to sink funds into this club, not a dwarf fish-arse-tight "chairman" we've got now, who doesnt seem to give a flying shit.

i love this club, always have done, always will do. but the way things are going, there wont be a club in 2 or 3 years. and that makes me livid.

[Spud]

And the longer Kings in charge the lower the crowds are going to get cos i cant see us getting anything from Donny or Bournemouth!?. :|

[Ben Wah Balls]

However when the forum does indeed pick their formations before the match, we dont have players needlessly playing out of position.

That's not entirely true dv85. For example you suggested Ifil would make a good winger. http://thetownend.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=5190

Now this may be true, but there is no doubt at all if King actually played him there he would get hugely slated for it. He has no experience of playing there. Most of the players King has played out of position have had experience in that position, even Van der Linden started off as a striker.

The people who're saying a new manager would unite the fans, you might think that but it wouldn't at all unless they were very successful which is extremely unlikely.

I thought when we sacked McMahon and brought in Jimmy Quinn, great that's the end of that miserable cloud that had been hanging over the club, the fans will be united now, Quinn's the man to take us forward but it was a disaster. Things got worse, far worse . The fans were far less united and the atmosphere got worse and the football we played got far worse, unbearable to watch, far worse than anything we're playing now. This wasn't all Quinn's fault, although in my opinion he was a pretty poor manager, as he had almost as little to work with as King but what had seemed to be a real positive step turned out to be fucking awful.

Another thing why the fuck would we really want Calderwood as manager, he's spent the money at Northampton they're pissed off with him. As a player he was awesome but given his lack of success when he's had a fair bit of money how shit is he likely to be with fuck all.

Excellent post from Normy btw, spot on.

[Dazzza]

Even having missed all the fun and games but as much as it pains me to say it I don't think it's the right time for King to get the bullet.

Invariably we reach this point every season, typically it usually gets worse than it looks at present.  It’s almost become a King trademark that he needs a kick up the arse before things improve and to be fair on past form they usually improve quite dramatically.

I do have to agree with a lot of posts that we do tend to suffer when the manager chops and changes his side every other week. With such a small deck King shuffles his cards around like Daniels and without the steady calming influence of an experienced assistant Magee by his side he seems to be coming out the joker rather than Top Trumps (like what I did there?).

There does appear to be a serious lack of organisation from the top down and I don’t think things can really improve until there is a settled infrastructure back in place at the club.  Onura’s piece in the Adver this week hinted just how thin things are on the ground.  Temporary acting manager, assistant manager, reserve team manager, youth development officer and first and youth team coaches rolled into one.  

If you take a look at say Tranmere Rovers and compare their backroom and club staff it makes us look as organised as a Sunday league pub side.

http://www.tranmererovers.premiumtv.co.uk/page/WhosWhoDetail/0,,10365~122856,00.html

We have one ‘active’ director and unofficial Chief Exec in Sandy Gray who has no football experience and background and to be fair is clearly not suited to a public facing role.  Her only qualification to sit on the board appears to be a close relationship with Mike Diamandis whom she is a director of several of his ‘companies’.

There are plenty of managers out there who on the face of the playing squad alone would grasp the manager’s job at Swindon Town with both hands.  I’d go as far as to say there are managers of a far better calibre than King who would take the job on the basis of the squad and limited resources available.  But I really think at present it’s a waste of time until things improve behind the scenes.  Short term improvement would be wasted and simply end in frustration and there just doesn’t seem to be the scope for anyone to build on anything the way things are at present.

King in the short term does give a stability of sorts even if it is a little unstable at times at least he ensures we shouldn't dip into relegation this season.  I even think he'll have it turned round by Christmas and we'll be sitting pretty in 13th and wondering what all the fuss was about.

As they say better the joker you know.

[STFC Village]

I do have to agree with a lot of posts that we do tend to suffer when the manager chops and changes his side every other week. With such a small deck King shuffles his cards around like Daniels and without the steady calming influence of an experienced assistant Magee by his side he seems to be coming out the joker rather than Top Trumps (like what I did there?).

Very much so Dazzza!