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« Reply #6195 on: Friday, September 15, 2023, 10:38:27 »

In a similar vein, who is now the clubs face? It started with Clem he backed away and Rob became the main focal point. Are we going to hear from Anthony Hall or will he be a Steve Anderson type CEO who lurks in the background.

Does it need a 'face', I would rather those running the club got on with running it rather than feeling the need to get their face and quotes in the media every 5 minutes. There was quite a lot of stick about Clem doing this when he took over.

Do fans of other clubs tend to hear from people outside the football side of the club regularly, apart from those who use the club as a personal attention grabber like the guy at Peterborough or Staveley at Newcastle where its more to try and push a narrative that they are most definitely not owned by the Saudi government?

whoever is in the background (presumably Kiely, Hart (?) and Standing) and maybe Morfuni muddle together to form a strategic direction, which I fear may be: "How do we get our money back?"

Is there fear about that being their objective, I don't for one second think that any of our owners since, I dunno Seton Wills maybe, have been in it for anything more than getting their money back at worst and making a profit at best for them.
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« Reply #6196 on: Friday, September 15, 2023, 10:43:11 »

Thanks. Not a very clear system, and as I say, there is no 'Join the Trust' tab on any of the menus.

Does one need to buy a voting share every year?

Appreciate that the Ground purchase was complicated but we've ended up with a labyrinthine system that I would imagine could negatively impact on Trust membership numbers in the medium/long term.

The £19.69 is a yearly charge, agreed it's not as simple as it used to be, not sure what the latest membership number is.
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« Reply #6197 on: Friday, September 15, 2023, 10:52:58 »

The Trust own 50% of the ground, it can't simply be moved to another entity.  That was the whole point or the council would never have sold and the Eadys never have handed over 2 and a half million quid.   There would also likely be more stamp duty to pay.

Also I thought everyone on the trust board were unpaid volunteers and there are annual elections for the directors each year.  There are no directors remuneration disclosed in their accounts, so hardly "jobs" for life.

You could always get involved and try to change things from the inside or set up another organisation if you feel that passionately about it.


You've literally quoted a message where I am asking about how to join the Trust...

I'm also under no illusion that these are volunteers are not taking a fat cat salary. I am just asking whether there is a real ability to generate change if the leadership who have set a strategic direction for the Trust that an increasing number of fans seemingly disagree with are permanent fixtures.

On the separate entity front, fair points but then maybe this can be handled with some internal division/two separate streams. Plenty of people have articulated how this might be beneficial. If nothing else it might clear up the membership tier situation mentioned above.

I'm still taken aback by how defensive people are about all matters Trust STFC. We have the Vice Chair tilting at windmills online in Orwellian language. Is that good or appropriate? Does that look like an organisation you want to join?! Who even is "we" in "we know who you are"? The Trust or the club? I'm not sure which is worse.

 
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« Reply #6198 on: Friday, September 15, 2023, 12:45:55 »


I'm still taken aback by how defensive people are about all matters Trust STFC. We have the Vice Chair tilting at windmills online in Orwellian language. Is that good or appropriate? Does that look like an organisation you want to join?! Who even is "we" in "we know who you are"? The Trust or the club? I'm not sure which is worse.

 

Agree. It isn't good at all. What is he going to do, send Zav Austin around to sort 'STFC Questions' out?

Looks pathetic.
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« Reply #6199 on: Friday, September 15, 2023, 13:06:21 »

Here you go. Who’s all mouth no trousers?

‘ Next Wednesday at 8-30 pm!!

@Official_STFC owner Clem Morfuni will be On the Sofa to answer YOUR questions.

The @STFCSupClub, in association with @T_STBL, will give YOU the chance to address the issues that YOU want addressed about STFC.

Wednesday 20/9/23 at 8-30 pm!
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« Reply #6200 on: Friday, September 15, 2023, 13:17:14 »

Here you go. Who’s all mouth no trousers?

‘ Next Wednesday at 8-30 pm!!

@Official_STFC owner Clem Morfuni will be On the Sofa to answer YOUR questions.

The @STFCSupClub, in association with @T_STBL, will give YOU the chance to address the issues that YOU want addressed about STFC.

Wednesday 20/9/23 at 8-30 pm!

Bah. Why is the sofa so small. Tinpot.
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« Reply #6201 on: Friday, September 15, 2023, 13:19:09 »

Here you go. Who’s all mouth no trousers?

‘ Next Wednesday at 8-30 pm!!

@Official_STFC owner Clem Morfuni will be On the Sofa to answer YOUR questions.

The @STFCSupClub, in association with @T_STBL, will give YOU the chance to address the issues that YOU want addressed about STFC.

Wednesday 20/9/23 at 8-30 pm!

Fair play - it will be good to hear from Clem.

Hopefully not too many questions about his favourite topping on a pizza, or is favourite tube line or whatever.
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« Reply #6202 on: Friday, September 15, 2023, 13:22:47 »

How do you submit questions?
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« Reply #6203 on: Friday, September 15, 2023, 13:31:37 »

Here you go. Who’s all mouth no trousers?

‘ Next Wednesday at 8-30 pm!!

@Official_STFC owner Clem Morfuni will be On the Sofa to answer YOUR questions.

The @STFCSupClub, in association with @T_STBL, will give YOU the chance to address the issues that YOU want addressed about STFC.

Wednesday 20/9/23 at 8-30 pm!

This is promising. Fair play Clem he will know he's in for it, but good to face the music.
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« Reply #6204 on: Friday, September 15, 2023, 13:37:08 »

Does that mean he’ll actually be here or just via zoom or some such
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« Reply #6205 on: Friday, September 15, 2023, 13:45:10 »

What we really need to know is what is Clems favourite cheese.
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« Reply #6206 on: Friday, September 15, 2023, 13:49:53 »

I presume this will be more happy clappy in nature given its the supporters club and TTBL and not the trust. Hopefully Clems answers to the trust will be reassuring or it'll be a shit show of the supporters club ignoring questions and rile people up even more.
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« Reply #6207 on: Friday, September 15, 2023, 13:55:47 »

I presume this will be more happy clappy in nature given its the supporters club and TTBL and not the trust. Hopefully Clems answers to the trust will be reassuring or it'll be a shit show of the supporters club ignoring questions and rile people up even more.

To be fair, they've dressed it up as practically a Kitchener recruitment poster, so that doesn't suggest questions about Manchego...
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« Reply #6208 on: Friday, September 15, 2023, 13:56:31 »

Be vetted anyway wont it?
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« Reply #6209 on: Friday, September 15, 2023, 13:58:10 »

Says live. When Power used to do the live phone in I called in a couple of times and nobody asked me beforehand what I was going to ask.
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