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« Reply #15345 on: Friday, November 15, 2024, 07:48:33 » |
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We've moved king on, so uwakawe must be pretty expensive
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« Reply #15346 on: Friday, November 15, 2024, 07:52:26 » |
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We've moved king on, so uwakawe must be pretty expensive
We’ll not really king played non league all career, was released by chesterfield and joined us following a trial - why would he be a big earner?
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« Reply #15347 on: Friday, November 15, 2024, 07:58:47 » |
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We’ll not really king played non league all career, was released by chesterfield and joined us following a trial - why would he be a big earner?
That’s not what he said.
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« Reply #15348 on: Friday, November 15, 2024, 08:30:14 » |
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Last night was impulsive. There will be more opportunity to talk more in good time.
And yes, I have resigned from the Trust Board.
Thanks for the input and completely respect your decision. Look forward to hearing more in good time.
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« Reply #15349 on: Friday, November 15, 2024, 08:36:30 » |
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Amongst the swirl of myth and rumour, I’d love someone to set out what we credibly think are the relationships between the hangers on, and their respective levels of power.
Morfuni, Austin, Hart, Keily….. Standing, Power?! Who has control over decisions, who has a financial interest, who is representing someone else (Standing, Power, Keily?), who are the allies, and who aren’t - or is it simply a case of bumbling from one fuck up to the next, happily, so long as the club can be used as a pass through for funds, whilst they destroy something that is, or was, so special?
Everyone dances around the issue on here. Some seem to know more than others. There’s no comeback for suggesting on here that the two of the above have done time for drug and money laundering crimes, and the legal owner has a chequered history of running companies into the ground and owing creditors millions whilst happily continuing to operate other companies in the same industry in his group…. and that the way that our club is being run is suspicious, so let’s get it all out…
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« Reply #15350 on: Friday, November 15, 2024, 09:01:17 » |
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I think in many respects the truth will be far less interesting than the reality. My broad understanding/view is that far from a lot of the decisions being nefarious in anyway, that Clem and Hall are actually just largely incompetent.
The club is owned by more than just Clem (outside of the 22% sold to raise cash). There are at least two other individuals/parties that effectively own the club with Clem, one of those is most certainly Standing.
I hear that the non Clem owners actually want out, and its Clem that doesn't want to sell.
This above is pieced together based on conversations with people who have direct contact with Clem, Hall and others, but i can't substantiate it.
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« Reply #15351 on: Friday, November 15, 2024, 09:03:03 » |
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Last night was impulsive. There will be more opportunity to talk more in good time.
And yes, I have resigned from the Trust Board.
My recollection was that you didn't see eye to eye with the board that was in place when you joined, and you have now left the new board, which was more in line with your objectives? Why? It would seem either your expectations are unachievable, or not in line with two different groups of board members (with different attitudes).
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« Reply #15352 on: Friday, November 15, 2024, 09:36:14 » |
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We’ll not really king played non league all career, was released by chesterfield and joined us following a trial - why would he be a big earner?
He wouldn't. Uwakewe = King + X But I'm still surprised. My thinking is Uwakawe had at least some paid by the loan club, possibly none, but probably not all. We have to pick up the extra burden on his return. I'm surprised moving King on didn't cover it. Suspect its a bit of shuffling to free up budget for January. Which isn't a massive surprise. We need to bring in fresh faces.
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« Reply #15353 on: Friday, November 15, 2024, 10:36:23 » |
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I reckon we’ll start to find out tomorrow who else might be moving on in Jan (to free up budget for incomings) if they’re dropped. Wright to Franchise is my guess.
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« Reply #15354 on: Friday, November 15, 2024, 11:11:48 » |
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Selling Wright would be absolute madness given the current situation. He's been our best new signing.
That doesn't mean it won't happen.
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« Reply #15355 on: Friday, November 15, 2024, 11:47:37 » |
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Amongst the swirl of myth and rumour, I’d love someone to set out what we credibly think are the relationships between the hangers on, and their respective levels of power.
Morfuni, Austin, Hart, Keily….. Standing, Power?! Who has control over decisions, who has a financial interest, who is representing someone else (Standing, Power, Keily?), who are the allies, and who aren’t - or is it simply a case of bumbling from one fuck up to the next, happily, so long as the club can be used as a pass through for funds, whilst they destroy something that is, or was, so special?
Everyone dances around the issue on here. Some seem to know more than others. There’s no comeback for suggesting on here that the two of the above have done time for drug and money laundering crimes, and the legal owner has a chequered history of running companies into the ground and owing creditors millions whilst happily continuing to operate other companies in the same industry in his group…. and that the way that our club is being run is suspicious, so let’s get it all out…
Keily the most Clem ever said on record after a long pause was "...................he gives us good data" this was before he ended up owning about a 5th of the club. Zav is just a match day guest officially but tells everyone he's the vice chairman, sanctioning waiting to happen. Standing they'll say nothing to do with us despite a suspiciously large amount of our players and managers being tied to his ex firm Hart is just a speed and cocaine, sorry strength and conditioning coach officially.
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« Reply #15356 on: Friday, November 15, 2024, 11:52:57 » |
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My recollection was that you didn't see eye to eye with the board that was in place when you joined, and you have now left the new board, which was more in line with your objectives?
Why?
It would seem either your expectations are unachievable, or not in line with two different groups of board members (with different attitudes).
Reelected board members still too much in bed with the club, would be my guess. Probably need an official stance on Clem In/Out on next round of voting.
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« Reply #15357 on: Friday, November 15, 2024, 12:03:33 » |
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Keily the most Clem ever said on record after a long pause was "...................he gives us good data" this was before he ended up owning about a 5th of the club.
Zav is just a match day guest officially but tells everyone he's the vice chairman, sanctioning waiting to happen.
Standing they'll say nothing to do with us despite a suspiciously large amount of our players and managers being tied to his ex firm
Hart is just a speed and cocaine, sorry strength and conditioning coach officially.
Aware of all that, I was asking more about the relative factions and who wants what. I wasn’t aware Standing was behind Morfuni (if that’s true). I don’t know who Austin is a proxy for, and if he’s invested indirectly, and who he is aligned with, and whether he’d prevent a sale in any way, through Parladorio or Keily shares (on the basis a buyer will want 100%, not just Morfuni’s share). If it is really true that everyone wants out apart from Morfuni, then why is that and what’s in it for him? He’s just accruing more debt, and he isn’t the one with a history of money laundering…. If Standing is the man behind Morfuni, then presumably it means that Standing pulls the strings and it’s him that doesn’t want to sell. So why not? And who else is behind Morfuni (Austin?) Why is Michael Standing happy to accrue the debt, in Morfuni’s name? A club to act as a vehicle for lower league player sales is not worth the millions of pounds of debt. These are the questions we need answers for.
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« Reply #15358 on: Friday, November 15, 2024, 12:11:46 » |
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Gareth Barry's mate?
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« Reply #15359 on: Friday, November 15, 2024, 12:16:53 » |
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Reelected board members still too much in bed with the club, would be my guess.
Probably need an official stance on Clem In/Out on next round of voting.
The only reelected board members were Tom, and the new chair. So not sure that stands.
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