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« Reply #15 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 12:31:42 »

Agree with the thoughts on getting Maguire and Henderson some game time. Neither are going to transform our fortunes single handedly but it's important to have them as up to speed as possible for the knockout stages.

I'd like to see Grealish, Sancho and Rashford get game time but think it's important to improve the use of Kane and Sterling tonight so we can't accommodate them all from the start.
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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 12:32:49 »

If he's fit, for sure.

What the hell is the point in testing etc? Give them a PCR test, move on. Absolutely ridiculous.

How were they any closer than any other player on either side.

The Scottish health lady that does a lot of these Q&As basically said that general contact in elite sport may not be enough to transfer the virus, however face to face/head to head contact could be. I think that it was possibly down to the after match head nuzzling between these players rather than any tackles etc that has caused the transfer of the virus.

At least I think that was what was implied.
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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 12:37:09 »

England could do with drawing tonight and coming 2nd in the group.

Winning the Group will see us playing whoever comes 2nd out of France, Germany, Portugal or Hungary!
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« Reply #18 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 12:40:19 »

The Scottish health lady that does a lot of these Q&As basically said that general contact in elite sport may not be enough to transfer the virus, however face to face/head to head contact could be. I think that it was possibly down to the after match head nuzzling between these players rather than any tackles etc that has caused the transfer of the virus.

At least I think that was what was implied.

So the nice big cuddle that Steve Clarke gave him after the game means that Clarke is isolating too?  of course not..  it's farcical.
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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 12:41:34 »

England could do with drawing tonight and coming 2nd in the group.

Winning the Group will see us playing whoever comes 2nd out of France, Germany, Portugal or Hungary!

Agreed, however I still think we will likely play one of those in the Q if we get through the next game - i predicted Germany.
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« Reply #20 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 12:43:27 »

England could do with drawing tonight and coming 2nd in the group.

Winning the Group will see us playing whoever comes 2nd out of France, Germany, Portugal or Hungary!

Except that with Sweden looking fairly likely to win Group E, second place will play Spain as the (likely) second place team in that group.

Draw looks very difficult for first or second in our group. Best third place team it is!
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« Reply #21 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 12:44:15 »

England could do with drawing tonight and coming 2nd in the group.

Winning the Group will see us playing whoever comes 2nd out of France, Germany, Portugal or Hungary!
Can see this being pretty much the game plan.  Already taken 13/5 on the draw, expecting a dull game but finishing first in the group could be suicide for us.   Suicide Suicide
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« Reply #22 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 12:50:45 »

It's bloody hard to work out the draw but I think:

First in our group:

Round of 16: Probably Germany, maybe Portugal or France
Quarter Final: Probably Sweden (!) as likely winners of Group E, maybe Spain
Semi Final: Probably Netherlands


Second in the group:

Round of 16: Probably Spain, if Sweden win Group E. If not, Sweden or Slovakia
Quarter Final: Probably France if they win their group
Semi Final: Probably Italy


So from that I think we want to win the group. Possibly mildly tougher RO16 but gets us on the other side of the draw to Italy, Belgium and France.

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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 12:56:05 »

What if we come third?
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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 12:57:26 »

What if we come third?

I think the correct term is "fuck knows". Way too many permutations for me to work out, but fairly sure it'd mean hitting Italy very early on.
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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 13:01:18 »

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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 13:02:23 »

I'd rather England beat Czech Republic. This recent phenomena of 'deliberately' dropping points to avoid certain nations isn't for me.

Avoiding our fate (good or bad) against whoever in Group F is nothing more than sporting cowardice.

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« Reply #27 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 13:20:33 »

So the nice big cuddle that Steve Clarke gave him after the game means that Clarke is isolating too?  of course not..  it's farcical.
He is in his bubble. This has all came about because they spent 25 minutes in the tunnel after the game talking to eachother and as they are out of eachothers bubbles the decision has been made
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« Reply #28 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 13:28:29 »

What a bizarre and farcical state of affairs. They've been tested! Absolute joke, in a long line of absolute jokes.
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« Reply #29 on: Tuesday, June 22, 2021, 13:43:43 »

Rumour is Saka and Grealish start tonight. Interesting stuff, I like Saka, but surprised to see him ahead of Sancho.
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