Let's Get Political!

[Jimmy StoppedMoaning]

Not as easy to forget Hancock😀

[Batch]

I don’t get it either, this desire to bring back a leader that suffered a catastrophic loss to probably the worst PM in British history.

some seem happy with an ideology and no chance of ever being able to implement it


others are deluded.

bit ruthless and divisive to kick him out, but they are doing what needs done to get in

[Jimmy StoppedMoaning]

Everyone is skint even the ice rink is being forced to close to save money

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/23425131.swindon-link-centre-ice-rink-close-months-due-energy-bills/

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

This is the sort of bare-faced lying that convinces many people not to believe anything a politician says.

"4,000 people a year die because of toxic air"

Rushanara Ali MP on the need to implement the Mayor's Ultra Low Emissions Zone across London.

The actual number, over a 20 year period, is 1.

Fucking 1!

[Legends-Lounge]

This is the sort of bare-faced lying that convinces many people not to believe anything a politician says.

"4,000 people a year die because of toxic air"

Rushanara Ali MP on the need to implement the Mayor's Ultra Low Emissions Zone across London.

The actual number, over a 20 year period, is 1.

Fucking 1!

Adds credence to the old saying, ‘how do you know when a politician is lying’? When they open their mouths and speak of course. That is ALL of them.

[Nemo]

This is the sort of bare-faced lying that convinces many people not to believe anything a politician says.

"4,000 people a year die because of toxic air"

Rushanara Ali MP on the need to implement the Mayor's Ultra Low Emissions Zone across London.

The actual number, over a 20 year period, is 1.

Fucking 1!

Source for that? I'd find it very hard to believe it was 1, some areas of London have fucking awful air quality, and if you've already got asthma or something then you're going to really struggle for quality of life.

I suspect there are stats that are overstating the problem from some (by including anyone dying with a respiratory illness) and then someone underplaying it by only including specific illnesses. I rather imagine 1 fits into the latter category...

[bennett]

The Beeb did an examination of the claims https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-64798395

[horlock07]

Source for that? I'd find it very hard to believe it was 1, some areas of London have fucking awful air quality, and if you've already got asthma or something then you're going to really struggle for quality of life.

I suspect there are stats that are overstating the problem from some (by including anyone dying with a respiratory illness) and then someone underplaying it by only including specific illnesses. I rather imagine 1 fits into the latter category...

I assume it realtes to the one person who had it recorded specifically on their death certificate, rather ignoring all those with underlying respiratory problesm who are royally fucked up by it.

Its just another front in the war being waged by the right wing libertarians who resist anything that introduces control and the erosion of rights (see also the fuss about people being able to - god forbid - walk to the shops, unless it agrees with their world view, so its fine to severely erode the freedom peoples passports give them and require them to now need ID for voting, but you will nebver take our pollution spouting cars so I can take little Johnny the 500m to school!

[Nemo]

I can kind of see that "the reduced life expectancy for people in the affected areas is equivalent to around 4000 lifetimes" is not really the same thing as "4000 direct deaths" and that's a bit of erm... marketing, so to speak. But it doesn't really feel like it should be a controversial thing to try not have people living in absolute abject polluted shiteholes. But hey, it's 2023 and literally everything becomes a culture war issue.

The 15 minute cities thing is my absolute favourite - imagine being furious at services you need being more conveniently located for you, glorious nonsense.

[Wobbly Bob]

Jed gets political.

https://www.stratford-herald.com/news/frustration-makes-stratford-town-chairman-jed-mccrory-stan-9302074/

[horlock07]

Jed gets political.

https://www.stratford-herald.com/news/frustration-makes-stratford-town-chairman-jed-mccrory-stan-9302074/

Thanks for sharing that, I needed a laugh!

[tans]

Remember when he wanted stand as an MP after leaving here

[Batch]

Raab resigns

[horlock07]

Raab resigns

Getting his side of the story out there first....

[Nemo]

Raab resigns

The time honoured political journey of furiously denying that you have any intention of resigning for 24 hours before resigning. A lovely nod to tradition in a changing world.