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« Reply #11820 on: Thursday, January 20, 2022, 09:30:31 »

wait.... are you an accountant?

Doesn't LL drive lorries? Or did you misread mean as bean (bean counting??)

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« Reply #11821 on: Thursday, January 20, 2022, 09:32:43 »

When can we expect Sue Gray's report to land? Am I right in saying Gray is not independent and is employed by Boris?

No deadline, but probably next week. She's not employed directly by Boris/The Conservative Party, but she is a civil servant so semi-independent of government. She is also, as I understand, writing a report on the facts of what happened, and the 'why' is more or less out of scope - she's not going to come out and say, for example 'Johnson's leadership style led to a culture of thinking rules did not apply at No. 10' (or you know, the opposite).
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« Reply #11822 on: Thursday, January 20, 2022, 09:42:10 »

When can we expect Sue Gray's report to land? Am I right in saying Gray is not independent and is employed by Boris?

Wednesday/Thursday next week. She is investigating her boss and her bosses boss, and will present the report to the latter, who has the power to edit, redact and spin as they see fit.

I suspect a whitewash as far as is possible, and her resignation to follow not long after as she wasn't able to do a proper investigation or her words have been censored or spun out of context.
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« Reply #11823 on: Thursday, January 20, 2022, 09:47:50 »

Wednesday/Thursday next week. She is investigating her boss and her bosses boss, and will present the report to the latter, who has the power to edit, redact and spin as they see fit.

I suspect a whitewash as far as is possible, and her resignation to follow not long after as she wasn't able to do a proper investigation or her words have been censored or spun out of context.

Agreed, albeit I'm leaning more towards the outcome being a dame hood if she gets it right rather than resignation.
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« Reply #11824 on: Thursday, January 20, 2022, 09:55:16 »

Wednesday/Thursday next week. She is investigating her boss and her bosses boss, and will present the report to the latter, who has the power to edit, redact and spin as they see fit.

I suspect a whitewash as far as is possible, and her resignation to follow not long after as she wasn't able to do a proper investigation or her words have been censored or spun out of context.

You forgot the part about her being made a Dame when Boris is cleared
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« Reply #11825 on: Thursday, January 20, 2022, 10:02:33 »

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wait.... are you an accountant?
Doesn't LL drive lorries? Or did you misread mean as bean (bean counting??)

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« Reply #11826 on: Thursday, January 20, 2022, 10:05:40 »

Agreed, albeit I'm leaning more towards the outcome being a dame hood if she gets it right rather than resignation.

It may come down to whether she was actually at any of the gatherings.   

She may get a dame hood and job back anyway, from the new PM, if she lays the final boot in.
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« Reply #11827 on: Thursday, January 20, 2022, 10:06:02 »

Doesn't LL drive lorries? Or did you misread mean as bean (bean counting??)

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LL is a respected white van man
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« Reply #11828 on: Thursday, January 20, 2022, 10:08:37 »

BREAKING: Senior backbencher and committee chair Will Wragg accuses whips, No 10 and spads of blackmail.

MPs have faced "pressure & intimidation" for calling for PM to go.

Including cutting investment from constituencies and releasing embarrassing stories.
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« Reply #11829 on: Thursday, January 20, 2022, 10:23:39 »

Errr Hitler quite admired Churchill.

I doubt that when he had a revolver stuck in his gob.
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« Reply #11830 on: Thursday, January 20, 2022, 10:45:35 »

Peston reporting that Sue Gray has found the email saying the party should not go ahead
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« Reply #11831 on: Thursday, January 20, 2022, 10:50:48 »

BREAKING: Senior backbencher and committee chair Will Wragg accuses whips, No 10 and spads of blackmail.

MPs have faced "pressure & intimidation" for calling for PM to go.

Including cutting investment from constituencies and releasing embarrassing stories.

Its hilarious how they are turning on each other, almost as funny as the Johnson/Trump fan boys losing their shit on social media at the moment.
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« Reply #11832 on: Thursday, January 20, 2022, 11:15:51 »

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Peston reporting that Sue Gray has found the email saying the party should not go ahead

no doubt Johnson "didn't know".

Martin Reynolds will be toast
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« Reply #11833 on: Thursday, January 20, 2022, 12:22:26 »

BREAKING: Senior backbencher and committee chair Will Wragg accuses whips, No 10 and spads of blackmail.

MPs have faced "pressure & intimidation" for calling for PM to go.

Including cutting investment from constituencies and releasing embarrassing stories.

I hope he's smart enough not to have made these allegations without evidence to back them up.  If he has, you'll simply see a closing of ranks and an early end to his own political career.
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« Reply #11834 on: Thursday, January 20, 2022, 12:37:15 »

I think the funniest outcome would be for enough letters to go in force the no confidence vote and then Johnson to win it (IIRC there cannot be another for 12 months after the first) so he has to just uselessly sit there, being openly laughed at by all and sundry, with no authority, haemorrhaging votes, and hating every second of it.

Whilst Starmer did well at PMQ's yesterday (bloody hell how bad would he have to be not to have done well, albeit Corbyn would probably have led on a question regarding bus services an Anglesey), I think the winner of the day was the SNP MP who when debating the relaxing in covid rules asked whether the PM was "getting rid of the covid rules, simply because he doesn’t understand them?”
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