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« Reply #75 on: Monday, July 14, 2014, 08:50:21 »

I keep seeing an awful lot of people saying this is the best WC ever.  The group stages were excellent but there were about 3 good games in the knockouts. I think the shitness of 2010 has distorted things.

France 98 remains the best World Cup I can remember (1990 onwards)
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« Reply #76 on: Monday, July 14, 2014, 09:11:35 »

People keep going back to this...

It's hardly a shock is it? If Germany had better players 5 years ago - 5 years on those players are still going to better?

I'd be more interested to know how many league games those German players have averaged since compared with the English players.

I can see your point, but can't help but think, it's more indicative of how our problem lies with player development around this stage...and you're probably right to infer it's because these sort of lads hit a glass ceiling at Prem clubs.
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« Reply #77 on: Monday, July 14, 2014, 09:32:23 »

I keep seeing an awful lot of people saying this is the best WC ever.  The group stages were excellent but there were about 3 good games in the knockouts. I think the shitness of 2010 has distorted things.

France 98 remains the best World Cup I can remember (1990 onwards)

Yeah, normally the group stages of a competition are full of boring games, followed by excitement in the knockouts, but it's been the other way round this year - I honestly can't think of one boring group game.
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« Reply #78 on: Monday, July 14, 2014, 09:47:31 »

Yeah, normally the group stages of a competition are full of boring games, followed by excitement in the knockouts, but it's been the other way round this year - I honestly can't think of one boring group game.

I always think it's the other way around....group games are better because early you get a second chance, players are fresher and you get unknowns and underdogs given a it a good go because of the likelihood of only playing a few games.

KO games tend to be cagier, for obvious reasons..

This has been a thoroughly enjoyable WC, but like all modern football, can't really compare to the past....it just is what it is.
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« Reply #79 on: Monday, July 14, 2014, 10:05:25 »

Yeah, normally the group stages of a competition are full of boring games, followed by excitement in the knockouts, but it's been the other way round this year - I honestly can't think of one boring group game.

England v Costa Rica was honking.
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« Reply #80 on: Monday, July 14, 2014, 10:21:04 »

TBH I don't care who wins the WC, who is, or isn't, world class.

To me it's no different to watching the PL games on Sky. A few good ones, most are boring pap.

My only real interest is in what happens at SN1. The rest is peripheral fluff.
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« Reply #81 on: Monday, July 14, 2014, 10:22:37 »

England v Costa Rica was honking.

Sorry, that doesn't count as it has been exorcised from my memory.
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« Reply #82 on: Monday, July 14, 2014, 10:23:30 »

Sorry, that doesn't count as it has been exorcised from my memory.

Japan v Greece was awful too. But point made.
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« Reply #83 on: Monday, July 14, 2014, 10:28:00 »

Nigeria v Iran was a snoozefest.
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« Reply #84 on: Monday, July 14, 2014, 10:36:06 »

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« Reply #85 on: Monday, July 14, 2014, 10:42:18 »

I only watched 2 games.

So there!
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« Reply #86 on: Monday, July 14, 2014, 10:54:54 »

Hopefully this world cup can put to bed the thought that any of our players are near world class or that the England team are anywhere near decent. We've got a lot of work ahead of us but one good thing is that people now have more realistic expectations. Not a bad World Cup overall.
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« Reply #87 on: Monday, July 14, 2014, 11:13:50 »

Messi showed glimpses of brilliance but, like Ronaldo, his club team is better than his International team and he never really looked like the Messi of Barcelona. I thought giving him the golden ball trophy was a bit of a piss-take and felt for him having to go up and collect it (Robben or James Rodriguez for me should have got it).

Fully agree. There is no way Messi deserved the best player award.
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« Reply #88 on: Monday, July 14, 2014, 11:30:37 »

Fully agree. There is no way Messi deserved the best player award.

I don't remember that particular farce at previous WC's....even Maradona said it was just done for the corporates.
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« Reply #89 on: Monday, July 14, 2014, 14:25:11 »

Fully agree. There is no way Messi deserved the best player award.
Totally agree, as one of the pundits said Messi in Barcelona's team and he is brilliant, put him in an average Argie team and he looks ordinary!
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