Adver News: THE SAM MORSHEAD COLUMN: Trust is a very valuable commodity for Robins

[PetsWinPrizes]

As opposed to people sat on the internet and achieving nothing?!

Seriously though I hope you'll be pleasantly surprised as the season progresses..

[london_red]

Not quite.

I was saying that if the trust was seen to be actually doing something pro-active to help the club/supporters, even something small, then I'd be more willing to part with my cash and be less critical. Not just once or twice either but on a consistent basis. You would surely benefit from recruiting additional members as a result.

The image that I get of the trust right now is a bunch of people that sit down, have the occasional chat and achieve nothing.  I think somebody said before that it's more like a political club than anything else. That's the impression that I get.

One of, if not their main stated aim, as far as I can tell, is to provide a conduit between fans and the club, and to make sure the fans' voices are heard by those in the boardroom.

So by attending the court hearings and establishing dialogue with Power and Shah, making their identity known to the Chairman and setting up a line of communication there, as well as I believe the ongoing communication between some of the Trust board with GM Steve Anderson, have they not 'done something'?

Full disclosure: Former trust member, lapsed membership

[Flashheart]

One of, if not their main stated aim, as far as I can tell, is to provide a conduit between fans and the club, and to make sure the fans' voices are heard by those in the boardroom.

So by attending the court hearings and establishing dialogue with Power and Shah, making their identity known to the Chairman and setting up a line of communication there, as well as I believe the ongoing communication between some of the Trust board with GM Steve Anderson, have they not 'done something'?

Full disclosure: Former trust member, lapsed membership

So they introduced themselves to some people running/managing the club? It's not a bad thing of course, but it's hardly something inspiring either!

[Samdy Gray]

The latest email from the Trust quite clearly stated what they'd done in the last few months and what their intentions are going forwards.

[Talk Talk]

Were the trust involved in the loud and proud thing?

No, it was (dormantly is) completely separate. Different objectives, L&P's aim was to put effort into improving the atmosphere on match days.

[pauld]

I was saying that if the trust was seen to be actually doing something pro-active to help the club/supporters, even something small, then I'd be more willing to part with my cash and be less critical.

Like the ACV that provides protection against the ground being asset stripped? That kind of thing?

Every fucking time there is a discussion about the trust we get all of the butt-hurt defensiveness and very little, if any, constructiveness.

I don't have any constructive criticism.

Do you ever wonder sometimes if maybe you're part of the problem?

[4D]

As opposed to people sat on the internet and achieving nothing?!

I think FH has to be commended for the well run WCS 2014!

[Flashheart]

Like the ACV that provides protection against the ground being asset stripped? That kind of thing?

I have already credited them with that in this thread.

Do you ever wonder sometimes if maybe you're part of the problem?

I have already offered constructive criticism in this thread.

I'm part of the problem because I happen to hold a particular opinion that some others also share?

[pauld]

I have already offered constructive criticism in this thread.

Sorry, missed it. (Genuinely)

I'm part of the problem because I happen to hold a particular opinion that some others also share?

No, because you stated a big problem as being "Every fucking time there is a discussion about the trust we get all of the butt-hurt defensiveness and very little, if any, constructiveness" and then said "I don't have any constructive criticism."

I have already credited them with that in this thread.

But then went on to say, "I was saying that if the trust was seen to be actually doing something pro-active to help the club/supporters, even something small, then I'd be more willing to part with my cash and be less critical. " Yet the ACV is pretty big, not something small, and apparently hasn't made you "more willing to part with your cash and be less critical".

[Flashheart]

No, because you stated a big problem as being "Every fucking time there is a discussion about the trust we get all of the butt-hurt defensiveness and very little, if any, constructiveness" and then said "I don't have any constructive criticism."

But then I did try to offer something constructive.....

And what 'problem' am I a part of anyway?

[PetsWinPrizes]

I think FH has to be commended for the well run WCS 2014!

If only the Trust board spent less time trying to build bridges with the owners and more time posting pictures on scantily clad women on here...

[Flashheart]

If only the Trust board spent less time trying to build bridges with the owners and more time posting pictures on scantily clad women on here...

Meow

[pauld]

But then I did try to offer something constructive.....

Ah, yes typing "Do something" in big letters. While ignoring the stuff they have done.

And what 'problem' am I a part of anyway?

How many times do you want me to quote this?

Every fucking time there is a discussion about the trust we get all of the butt-hurt defensiveness and very little, if any, constructiveness.

You're providing an excellent example of both.

[Flashheart]

Ah, yes typing "Do something" in big letters. While ignoring the stuff they have done.

Execpt I didn't ignore what they have achieved. I mentioned it before anybody else did.

You're providing an excellent example of both.

How am I being butt-hurt and defensive? It's a discussion. Other people are throwing around snarky comments, not myself. Am I to just keep quiet?

Fuck it. I will keep quiet. These discussion on the trust always turn out to be the same childish bullshit

[PetsWinPrizes]

Meow

that was obviously a joke, lighten up.