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« on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 16:41:02 »

Nutter.

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« Reply #1 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 16:43:50 »

Only getting away with it cos the West and USA are a bunch of pussies.

He ain't going to stop at Crimea
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« Reply #2 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 16:51:16 »

I'm obviously over simplifying the issue, regards Crimea, but:

Norther Ireland: The majority want to be part of the UK, so they are part of the UK.

Falkands: the islanders wish to be classed as British, so they are.

Crimea: The majority want to be part of Russia....

You can question the way they approached it, but not the outcome, as it was the people who ultimately decided.

The concern will come if he has his beady eyes set on Ukraine...
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« Reply #3 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 16:56:44 »

Well he is the world leader that Nigel Farage admires the most so he must be ok

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kerry red

« Reply #4 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 16:56:55 »

Apparently, Crimea was given to Ukraine as a present by Stalin never thinking at the time the break up of the USSR was ever a possibility.

Those eastern borders have changed so much over the years it's hard to tell what is what and who is who - from the West's perspective.
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« Reply #5 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 17:00:47 »

Well he is the world leader that Nigel Farage admires the most so he must be ok

UKIP Ladies and Gentlemen
UKraine Indepence Party?
The concern will come if he has his beady eyes set on Ukraine...
Ukraine could be just the start of it if this is true:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-wants-to-regain-finland-for-russia-adviser-says-9224273.html

According to a former adviser, he also fancies the look of Georgia, the Baltic states and Finland among others.
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« Reply #6 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 17:03:36 »

I'm obviously over simplifying the issue, regards Crimea, but:

Norther Ireland: The majority want to be part of the UK, so they are part of the UK.

Falkands: the islanders wish to be classed as British, so they are.

Crimea: The majority want to be part of Russia....

You can question the way they approached it, but not the outcome, as it was the people who ultimately decided.

The concern will come if he has his beady eyes set on Ukraine...

A 97% yes vote either means there's no reason for the Crimea to belong to Ukraine or there was some fixing going on. I'd be inclined to think the latter. Especially with the large numbers of Russian Naval personnel and 'mysterious' armed men present in the region.

Ukraine and Finland. He wants to create a thousand year reich resurgent Russian Empire and will, literally, stop at nothing. That's what worries me. He's a man in the mold of a Machiavellian prince, with a mindset borrowed from Frederick the Great of Sweden via the Soviet Union and Peter the Great, and the KGB, with the patience and the unwillingness to give up power of Stalin, and that is simply not viable in the modern world.

The only shining light I can see is that the strongest American president in years is currently in the White House in his second term.

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« Reply #7 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 17:05:53 »

A 97% yes vote either means there's no reason for the Crimea to belong to Ukraine or there was some fixing going on. I'd be inclined to think the latter. Especially with the large numbers of Russian Naval personnel and 'mysterious' armed men present in the region.
It was simpler than that, the anti-Russian/pro-Ukrainan factions largely boycotted the poll. Although I don't think anyone disputes it would have come down heavily on the pro-Russian side anyway, so the boycott was as much a face-saving thing as anything. Equally I don't think anyone disputes the Russians would have rigged it if they'd felt they needed to
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« Reply #8 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 17:10:08 »

UKraine Indepence Party?Ukraine could be just the start of it if this is true:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/vladimir-putin-wants-to-regain-finland-for-russia-adviser-says-9224273.html

According to a former adviser, he also fancies the look of Georgia, the Baltic states and Finland among others.

Apparently the good people of the Donetsk area voted in an on-line poll to become part of the UK, based on the fact that the mining enclave was started up by I think John Hughes a Welshman.

Swapping the Sweaties for an Ukrainian enclave, does seem tempting.
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« Reply #9 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 17:16:10 »

Swapping the Sweaties for an Ukrainian enclave, does seem tempting.
You have an alterior motive we know this Wink the influx of Eastern European women and all that.
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« Reply #10 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 17:32:22 »

You have an alterior motive we know this Wink the influx of Eastern European women and all that.

Lennon and McCartney knew what they were on about...on back in the USSR.

Check out the Ukraine based Femen movement....

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« Reply #11 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 17:54:40 »

Lennon and McCartney knew what they were on about...on back in the USSR.

Check out the Ukraine based Femen movement....



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« Reply #12 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 17:58:53 »

She spelled semen wrong.

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« Reply #13 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 18:07:41 »

She spelled semen wrong.
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« Reply #14 on: Monday, March 31, 2014, 18:22:51 »

Will have to correct that.
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