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« Reply #105 on: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 19:57:52 »

Assume not one parent here has ever driven over any speed limit with their children in the car aswell

Assume you would happily leave a toddler at home when you nip off to the supermarket then?
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« Reply #106 on: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 20:03:20 »

Assume not one parent here has ever driven over any speed limit with their children in the car aswell

I know that I have.

They were clearly very careless in what they did, as many (if not all) of us have been careless also.

I just can't fathom how they are trying to deny any fault, I just can't get my head around it.

Having said that though, the press are known to spin the context to their liking.
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« Reply #107 on: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 20:26:47 »

Cannot believe they went out after Madeleine had told them that both her brother and she had woken up the previous night and didn't know where her parents were. Even after knowing that they left them again.
I think she was taken by a stranger but they didn't look after their kids properly. Whoever it was must have monitored their behaviour over previous evenings.

I was shocked when they openly admitted that in the interview last night.  It's not something that's ever been mentioned before and seems to have been glossed over by the media.  Aside from what did transpire, how frightening for young children to wake up in unfamiliar surroundings and not know where their parents were.  It's never really struck me before, but there was nothing to have stopped them waking up, being frightened and going out the unlocked door to look for the parents.

The other thing was that in the reconstruction last night, the various parents were regularly getting up to go and check on their children.  It really seemed quite pointless trying to have an adults meal when people were up and down all the time
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« Reply #108 on: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 21:23:29 »

Assume you would happily leave a toddler at home when you nip off to the supermarket then?
Oh yeah,happily. You can see 3rd line down where i said that aswell. My point is many are equally neglectful in the way they drive with children in the car,many on here have done. Why doesnt that make them as bad as these two?
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« Reply #109 on: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 21:24:27 »

Huh?
see my above post
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« Reply #110 on: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 21:29:36 »

Oh yeah,happily. You can see 3rd line down where i said that aswell. My point is many are equally neglectful in the way they drive with children in the car,many on here have done. Why doesnt that make them as bad as these two?

So you honestly believe that driving at 75 on the motorway with kids in the car is the same as leaving them alone in a strange place?

I'm assuming if that is the case you believe that stealing sachets of ketchup from a motorway services is the same severity of crime as GBH?

Must be very black & white in your world.
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« Reply #111 on: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 21:36:43 »

So you honestly believe that driving at 75 on the motorway with kids in the car is the same as leaving them alone in a strange place?


If you crash at high speed and kill your kids as a result of your negligence then yes, it is very much comparable.

The only difference between the two is fortune, or lack of it.

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I'm not trying to defend them as people though as I find their apparent coldness toward the situation a tad odd.
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« Reply #112 on: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 21:48:41 »

If you crash at high speed and kill your kids as a result of your negligence then yes, it is very much comparable.

The only difference between the two is fortune, or lack of it.



The difference is you have a level of control, and driving a car is a normal activity.

You could have an accident driving at 70 on the motorway (which is presumably not negligent) & kill everyone in the car (including your kids).

A plane could crash, does that make it negligent taking a child on a plane?
They could drown at the beach, does that mean you shouldn't let them in the water?

Although it's probably more dangerous (& negligent) if you were to let your 3 year old go swimming in the sea on their own whilst you sat in the bar having a pint Wink
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« Reply #113 on: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 21:49:31 »

I think they're pulling your chain Posh.
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« Reply #114 on: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 21:51:11 »

So you honestly believe that driving at 75 on the motorway with kids in the car is the same as leaving them alone in a strange place?

I'm assuming if that is the case you believe that stealing sachets of ketchup from a motorway services is the same severity of crime as GBH?

Must be very black & white in your world.
love putting words in my mouth don't you and no it isnt black and white but both are equally as bad are they not. I would hazard a guess more children are killed from a parent driving over the limit than kids are abducted from being left alone.
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« Reply #115 on: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 21:52:46 »

I think they're pulling your chain Posh.
not at all,breaking the law and putting your kids is dangerous and neglect no?
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« Reply #116 on: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 22:03:01 »

Just the other day I was looking after my little boy while watching stuff on the laptop. So engrossed I was in what I was watching that I didn't notice him playing with the guinea pig and I stopped him from putting it in his mouth, as 6 months old are prone to do, just in the nick of time. The consequences could, of course, have been catastrophic.


Corrected for you.
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« Reply #117 on: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 22:03:32 »

I deleted some of my posts on here by accident, just in-case anybody is wondering
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« Reply #118 on: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 22:05:42 »

I genuinely don't see many parallels between leaving your kids alone, and going above the speed limit. I find the comparison most odd in fact.

I guess it comes down to how you personally see the risk. I have no evidence, but I'd say doing 80 opposed to 70 down an empty motorway is far less dangerous than leaving a three year old two one year olds on their own.

But more than that its just something I'd never do. I view leaving your kids on their own grossly irresponsible.  I accept not everyone does, and there is not much point blaming the McCanns for doing it after the fact.

To meI don't think minor/moderate speeding itself is in the same category at all. Going 34 mph in a 30 is clearly far less risky than leaving your kids alone.
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« Reply #119 on: Tuesday, October 15, 2013, 22:08:20 »

not at all,breaking the law and putting your kids is dangerous and neglect no?

Speeding on a motorway and leaving a child alone in an unlocked apartment is not on the same scale. I'm not going to overly criticise the McCanns as I'm sure they've tortured themselves over this enough, but at the same time I'm not going to try and defend their actions either.
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