Madeline McCann

[Fred Elliot]

And your point is exactly ?

[DRS]

The idea that you could take a child and raise them without anyone noticing this sudden high-profile arrival, keep them from communicating with anyone about their past, or prevent their inevitable desire in the future to find and contact their actual parents, is absurd. Only if they are kept separate from all other humans would that plan work. And if someone wanted a kid that badly, but couldn't have one of their own, I'd imagine they'd adopt. Presumably, if she was taken to order, the operation would have cost a shitload of money, which could have been used to obtain another (legitimate) child without causing such a shitstorm.

The Portugese Police have bollocksed the investigation up; around 20 different people visited the McCann's apartment before it was sealed off, therefore massively limiting the validity of forensics. Funny though that they've not found any fingerprints, or hair fibres, or skin cells to indicate that anyone else entered the apartment.

I also don't understand why, if you are going to leave your kids, and go to the trouble of specifically booking a table that overlooks your apartment - presumably because you're concerned about their safety - you wouldn't lock the patio doors right next to them that lead onto a public road. Too contradictory and dumb to be true.

One of the McCann's party supposedly saw the abductor carrying a girl matching Madeline's description - and did absolutely nothing about it at the time (go and check if it is her? shout? run after him? mention it to the parents when you get back to the restaurant?) except report it when they had declared her missing.

There's a lot of weird shit going on in this story, which tells me that they killed her and have done their best to cover it up.

Is this a serious post?

[Fred Elliot]

And your point is exactly ?

?

[mystical_goat]

Is this a serious post?

Yes, why not?

[mystical_goat]

Seriously. I'm more than willing to be schooled/made to look like an idiot etc.

[DRS]

It was more the fact that you find it unbelievable that kids get taken and our kept alive as part of familys etc.It is quite common unfortunatly

[mystical_goat]

It was more the fact that you find it unbelievable that kids get taken and our kept alive as part of familys etc.It is quite common unfortunatly

I know that human and child trafficking goes on, but I'd be extremely surprised if anyone managed to achieve it, or thought they could, with such a high profile child as Madeline McCann. If someone did take her then I guess they may not have expected her to gain such notoriety.

I assume that child trafficking normally occurs when poorer families are forced to give up/sell their children to the traffickers, and a small amount of kidnapping of children from similar families, and that it doesn't normally happen to children of middle class british families.

[Batch]

But there have been a few of high profile cases where kids were snatched and hidden out of sight by the abductor.  Amanda Berry et al most recently. Very few and far between though.

[Abrahammer]

This whole Crimewatch/release of a couple of e-fits.

Perhaps it's just me but I barely remember a thing about 2007 yet alone remember what any random person I saw on holiday looked like.

Fair play to them for keeping it in the media spotlight.  I just hope the government are giving parents of other lost children, who don't leave them alone to socialise, the same funding.

[pauld]

I just hope the government are giving parents of other lost children, who don't leave them alone to socialise, the same funding.

Oh come on. The government aren't giving the McCanns any funding. The police are investigating a crime, as they should.

The sniping at a family who fucked up and paid an intolerably heavy price for doing so really does show the worst side in some people. For the love of God I pray nothing similar ever happens to either of my kids but if it did I hope I'd move heaven and earth to find them. As would anyone.

[Ardiles]

The sniping at a family who fucked up and paid an intolerably heavy price for doing so really does show the worst side in some people.

Hear hear!  Amazing the number of model parents out there who have never put a foot wrong and ready to dish out parenting advice.  Fair enough, I've never left my kids unattended like that - but I have screwed up in other ways along the way...as I'd guess we all have.  Thankfully, I've never had to deal with what the McCanns have had to.

[Batch]

Perhaps it's just me but I barely remember a thing about 2007 yet alone remember what any random person I saw on holiday looked like.

You'd think that had you'd been there, you might just have mentioned anyone looking shifty at the earliest opportunity.

Always the chance someone will recognise them knowing the said person was in the area I suppose.

[Sippo]

Oh come on. The government aren't giving the McCanns any funding. The police are investigating a crime, as they should.

The sniping at a family who fucked up and paid an intolerably heavy price for doing so really does show the worst side in some people. For the love of God I pray nothing similar ever happens to either of my kids but if it did I hope I'd move heaven and earth to find them. As would anyone.

No ones perfect, but they have showed no emotion whatsoever. I know grief affects people in different ways but they haven't once shed a tear.

Also the mums nose looks rather dashing....

[Ardiles]

No ones perfect, but they have showed no emotion whatsoever. I know grief affects people in different ways but they haven't once shed a tear.

I seriously doubt that that's true.

And just because the parents are showing a bit of traditional British 'stiff upper lip' and aren't displaying the emotional incontinence of an X-Factor contestant (which seems to have become obligatory ever since Diana died), it doesn't mean they're not hurting in private.  Maybe they're just trying to maintain a little dignity in public.

[Sippo]

I'd disagree. They have showed absolutely no emotion whatsoever. How can anyone sit through so many media interviews and still hold it together? Not even chocking up or anything.

I look at them, and yes it's sad, but something just doesn't feel right. Have they even been questioned properly by the old bill? Surely leaving your child alone, is child neglect?