What's right with football?

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

Man City 1 up after 14 secs. Fastest ever FA Cup Final goal.

[Berniman]

The game has gone with VAR - how the fuck can that be a penalty?  Handball when a guy is in the air and it clips his fingers from 1 metre.  If those are the new rules then there is going to be a penatly every 10 mins - nobody will be going for goal, they will just be trying to hit the oppositions hands.

Keep it away from League 1/2 football please.

[Legends-Lounge]

The game has gone with VAR - how the fuck can that be a penalty?  Handball when a guy is in the air and it clips his fingers from 1 metre.  If those are the new rules then there is going to be a penatly every 10 mins - nobody will be going for goal, they will just be trying to hit the oppositions hands.

Keep it away from League 1/2 football please.

It is a penalty, simple, the ball hit his hand. It would have been a penalty at the other end also. The problem with the penalty law is having caveats. Deliberate?, unnatural position?, accidental? IMHO the only way to make this rule 100% cast in stone is if the ball hits the hand in any event it is a penalty. Yes, a player can flick the ball towards another players hand but so can the opposition. I’ll put my life on it that had that incident happened at the other end the Citeh players would have been shouting for one too.

Simply put it is a penalty if you get it, it’s also a penalty if you don’t.

The offside law has fallen foul to this type of bastardisation of the original rule also.

[ChalkyWhiteIsGod]

The game has gone with VAR - how the fuck can that be a penalty?  Handball when a guy is in the air and it clips his fingers from 1 metre.  If those are the new rules then there is going to be a penatly every 10 mins - nobody will be going for goal, they will just be trying to hit the oppositions hands.

Keep it away from League 1/2 football please.

Agree. Its total bollocks. "hand in an unnatural position" fuck off.

[adje]

It is a penalty, simple, the ball hit his hand. It would have been a penalty at the other end also. The problem with the penalty law is having caveats. Deliberate?, unnatural position?, accidental? IMHO the only way to make this rule 100% cast in stone is if the ball hits the hand in any event it is a penalty. Yes, a player can flick the ball towards another players hand but so can the opposition. I’ll put my life on it that had that incident happened at the other end the Citeh players would have been shouting for one too.

Simply put it is a penalty if you get it, it’s also a penalty if you don’t.

The offside law has fallen foul to this type of bastardisation of the original rule also.

100%. The rule may be shite but it's been around all season.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

According to Lineker that rule is getting junked next season. Back to ‘intentional’ handball.

[Jimmy HaveHave]

Maradona😀

[Berniman]

It is a penalty, simple, the ball hit his hand. It would have been a penalty at the other end also. The problem with the penalty law is having caveats. Deliberate?, unnatural position?, accidental? IMHO the only way to make this rule 100% cast in stone is if the ball hits the hand in any event it is a penalty. Yes, a player can flick the ball towards another players hand but so can the opposition. I’ll put my life on it that had that incident happened at the other end the Citeh players would have been shouting for one too.

Simply put it is a penalty if you get it, it’s also a penalty if you don’t.

The offside law has fallen foul to this type of bastardisation of the original rule also.

It's not about one end or the other, one team or the other, it's about the rule - it's bollocks.  

Has a penatly been awarded everytime a ball has touched a hand this season in every game?  No, therefore it's bollocks.

[Bob's Orange]

The handball rule definitely needs a rethink. As to what, under video scrutiny I've no idea. One of the problems is that when the replay is slowed down often these acts somehow look more deliberate. (not saying the Grealish one did look deliberate) I genuinely don't know what the answer is but there must be some way to accurately measure whether a player has had time to get his hand out of the way or something?

For me the offside rule is more black and white, whether the player is 5 yards or a ball hair offside, its offside. Half of the problem are ex-footballers whinging that goals where players are millimetres offside by the letter of the law are being chalked off and its taking ages. We'll sorry but managers like Ferguson and Wenger moaned like bitches for ages about wrong decisions. Well we now have a system where we can correct these things now.

I'm not in favour of VAR necessarily but it's a tool that we probably need to use if we're going to make sure decisions are correct. They just need to have a lot of a rethink about rules etc. As for VAR in league 1/2, no thank you, I think part of the fun of the lower leagues are suffering/gaining from terrible refereeing and linesman decisions.

[ChalkyWhiteIsGod]

I'm not even sure the offside VAR thing is down.

You're freezing the image the drawing lines and dots on the screen and everything, first of all its supposed to be used for 'clear and obvious errors' but secondly, if you're not doing the same down the other end and ensuring you're freezing it the millisecond that the ball leaves the players foot then its kind of pointless.

[Berniman]

The handball rule definitely needs a rethink. As to what, under video scrutiny I've no idea. One of the problems is that when the replay is slowed down often these acts somehow look more deliberate. (not saying the Grealish one did look deliberate) I genuinely don't know what the answer is but there must be some way to accurately measure whether a player has had time to get his hand out of the way or something?

For me the offside rule is more black and white, whether the player is 5 yards or a ball hair offside, its offside. Half of the problem are ex-footballers whinging that goals where players are millimetres offside by the letter of the law are being chalked off and its taking ages. We'll sorry but managers like Ferguson and Wenger moaned like bitches for ages about wrong decisions. Well we now have a system where we can correct these things now.

I'm not in favour of VAR necessarily but it's a tool that we probably need to use if we're going to make sure decisions are correct. They just need to have a lot of a rethink about rules etc. As for VAR in league 1/2, no thank you, I think part of the fun of the lower leagues are suffering/gaining from terrible refereeing and linesman decisions.

The only thing not black and white about the offside rule is what part of the body they use to measure it.  Should the fact that an arm is offside mean that a player is offside?  Or a shoulder leaning forward mean that a player is offside.  They need to pick a point and stick to it.  Personally I think it should be based on the furthest point that either foot is at, at the point of the ball being struck for the pass, if a knee, shoulder or hand is further forward, it shouldn't be offside. The same measurement for the defender. The game is called football after all.

[Jimmy HaveHave]

I preferred offside when there was daylight between the players making it easier to call

[ChalkyWhiteIsGod]

The only thing not black and white about the offside rule is what part of the body they use to measure it.  Should the fact that an arm is offside mean that a player is offside?  Or a shoulder leaning forward mean that a player is offside.  They need to pick a point and stick to it.  Personally I think it should be based on the furthest point that either foot is at, at the point of the ball being struck for the pass, if a knee, shoulder or hand is further forward, it shouldn't be offside. The same measurement for the defender. The game is called football after all.

Supposed to be the first part of the body you can score with. But they don't seem consistent.

[Legends-Lounge]

It's not about one end or the other, one team or the other, it's about the rule - it's bollocks.  

Has a penatly been awarded everytime a ball has touched a hand this season in every game?  No, therefore it's bollocks.

Has the penalty winning team argued that they should not have had a contentious penalty awarded to them?

[Berniman]

Has the penalty winning team argued that they should not have had a contentious penalty awarded to them?

I don't know what the fuck you are going on about but you keep going back to teams, it's not about teams, it's about the bollocks rule.