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Simon Pieman
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« Reply #30 on: Wednesday, February 13, 2013, 22:55:00 »

Wonder if this is the case stll....

I've looked into this further and have looked at the wording in the mortgages and charges documents filed at Cos House rather than the accounts.

From what I can see it looks like the holding company's, AB's and SMA's debts are secured against the undertaking and all assets & property present and future. There is an additional debenture which refers to the leasehold but this only gives the person entitled as SMA.

In English, that means if they wanted payment they could appoint administrative receivers to recover their debts out of any income the club received and instruct sales of any assets (most likely players) in order to recoup their dosh also.

Which is where the mix up in the media reporting came from I reckon. Entering administration wouldn't have 'wiped out' any debts per se, but it would have allowed them a way to recoup as much as possible whilst still keeping the club running day-to-day. The club would have been a horrific mess if this would have happened, no players left etc.

You could hypothesise that the above action would have been taken unless Ritchie was sold pronto. The other less cynical view would be that we needed to sell Ritchie to fund wages and the running of the club in the weeks post-sale and pre-football league ratification.

So the short answer to your question is pretty much a yes.
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« Reply #31 on: Wednesday, February 13, 2013, 23:17:02 »

Unless he says he's staying on I will relinquish my season ticket and turn my back on my support since 1979.......
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« Reply #32 on: Wednesday, February 13, 2013, 23:27:51 »

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« Reply #33 on: Wednesday, February 13, 2013, 23:31:07 »

never trusted Patey since watching The Shadow Line...

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« Reply #34 on: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 07:44:33 »

So the short answer to your question is pretty much a yes.

Thanks for that.

So while we are massively better off than pre-Black, we will in likelihood still need to find a bit to pay them back. Its fair enough, but obviously worst case at some point  we'd be left with a St Modwen debenture style scramble, though I'm sure Black would be more accommodating.
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« Reply #35 on: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 11:21:53 »

Reg you keep raising this matter on every thread that the new owners have no cash, will look to trim the wage bill etc, have I missed the posts that have illustrated this as I was under the impression that we didn't know the background or in fact names of all members.


I've no more info than the bit floating around in cyberspace and from talking to people...and I'd say the consensus, is that the new lot will bring some football experience to the table, rather than a sack of cash.  In that regard we've been spoilt these last 5 years.

Think people need to get used to the idea that we'll be operating under a George Osbourne model.

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« Reply #36 on: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 11:24:43 »

I've no more info than the bit floating around in cyberspace and from talking to people...and I'd say the consensus, is that the new lot will bring some football experience to the table, rather than a sack of cash.  In that regard we've been spoilt these last 5 years.


A consensus from other people that also know nothing?
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« Reply #37 on: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 11:27:38 »

A consensus from other people that also know nothing?
TBF you do have a point.
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« Reply #38 on: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 11:28:05 »


Think people need to get used to the idea that we'll be operating under a George Osbourne model.
So back to the Diamandis-era omnishambles then? Smiley

I'm a bit more optimistic than that personally. But let's at least let them get their feet under the table and see how things pan out before we start judging (either way)
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« Reply #39 on: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 11:30:06 »

It still shocks me that the vast majority of our fans have written off the new consortium before we know essentially anything at all about them, just a few internet rumours.

At least let them get in and tell us and show us what their plans are before we write them off as being worthless and useless and with no money etc etc etc
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« Reply #40 on: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 11:31:43 »

It still shocks me that the vast majority of our fans have written off the new consortium before we know essentially anything at all about them, just a few internet rumours.

At least let them get in and tell us and show us what their plans are before we write them off as being worthless and useless and with no money etc etc etc

Yeah but Reg's consensus says they're skint
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« Reply #41 on: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 11:32:46 »

So back to the Diamandis-era omnishambles then? Smiley

I'm a bit more optimistic than that personally. But let's at least let them get their feet under the table and see how things pan out before we start judging (either way)

No chance, we're football fans...if they've not signed Messi by Monday evening they can do one.
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« Reply #42 on: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 11:33:08 »

It's Reg's consensus vs Jed's consortium. The Big Fight Live on ITV4!
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« Reply #43 on: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 11:36:58 »

It still shocks me that the vast majority of our fans have written off the new consortium before we know essentially anything at all about them, just a few internet rumours.

At least let them get in and tell us and show us what their plans are before we write them off as being worthless and useless and with no money etc etc etc

Amen to that.
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« Reply #44 on: Thursday, February 14, 2013, 11:37:08 »

A consensus from other people that also know nothing?

A consensus of people that know a little bit...that's sadly where we're at atm. 

5 years ago we were in a similar position, but once the names Black Wray and Arbib leaked out, it didn't take long to formulate a view that here were some fellas with serious money.
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