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« Reply #120 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 18:02:40 »

But the issue is that PDC shouldn't have gone to print on that. What purpose does it serve?

I would imagine he was asked a question and he answered it. Im not fussed anyway
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« Reply #121 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 18:36:45 »

OK, so he's a Di Canio ... but he's our Di Canio!
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« Reply #122 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 18:51:52 »

Bodin was too lightweight to be a striker and would be way down the pecking order as a winger, so a good time to cash in.

Time to move on.
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« Reply #123 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 19:02:10 »

Bodin was too lightweight to be a striker and would be way down the pecking order as a winger, so a good time to cash in.

Time to move on.
I agree with that. Very skillful but ultimately too light weight IMO.

70k, presumably with add ons is very good money.
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« Reply #124 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 19:10:51 »

too lightweight?  this is exactly the attitude that has put england where we are now in an international football sense.

people moaning that coaching in this country is up to it and people moaning that physicallity takes too much precedent over ability yet here we have people saying that bodin is too lightweight to be a stiker? 

messi is a striker, maradonna was a striker and they seemed to do/are doing ok...

no wonder we're in the shit because people in this country are still wheeling out the 'he's too small' line when it simply shouldn't be the case
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« Reply #125 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 19:18:30 »

I would imagine he was asked a question and he answered it.

Steady now......

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« Reply #126 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 20:02:17 »

Bodin looked a better footballer to me than any of our strikers bar Benson last season, and it's a shame we've let him go. He wouldn't have been good enough to hold down a regular starting place for us I feel next season, but he could have perhaps grown with us.

I feel that, as long as he doesn't let his head go astray, he'll go on on to have a very good career
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« Reply #127 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 20:15:18 »

too lightweight?  this is exactly the attitude that has put england where we are now in an international football sense.

people moaning that coaching in this country is up to it and people moaning that physicallity takes too much precedent over ability yet here we have people saying that bodin is too lightweight to be a stiker? 

messi is a striker, maradonna was a striker and they seemed to do/are doing ok...

no wonder we're in the shit because people in this country are still wheeling out the 'he's too small' line when it simply shouldn't be the case
Wow.

40 years of international failure is down to me. I do apologize, I had no idea.

And Billy Bodin is the next Maradona/Messi. I guess we let him go a bit cheaply.

This is a lot to take in all at once, I'm going to have to have a lie down.

I still think he's too light weight though.
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« Reply #128 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 20:17:28 »

There's a difference between small and lightweight. Messi is more than capable of holding on to the ball, as are many small players. Being knocked off the ball too easily is a genuine flaw.
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« Reply #129 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 20:19:50 »

you know what i mean, we need to shake this philosophy.

i wasn't looking to be confrontational i just think we need to get away from the too light weight argument in general.

i think billy will do well for himself with a forray into the championship in a few years a possibility.

he wasn't ready to be in our first team and in that respect it's right to let him go and get that elsewhere
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« Reply #130 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 20:20:58 »

Wow.

40 years of international failure is down to me. I do apologize, I had no idea.


Well now ya do ! So feckin sort it out!
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« Reply #131 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 20:45:39 »

Bodin looked a better footballer to me than any of our strikers bar Benson last season, and it's a shame we've let him go. He wouldn't have been good enough to hold down a regular starting place for us I feel next season, but he could have perhaps grown with us.

I feel that, as long as he doesn't let his head go astray, he'll go on on to have a very good career

Maybe he would've improved under us, maybe he'd have got some game time but it wouldn't have been enough judging by him saying he wanted guarantees of first team football. He's 19 and he's coming out with that sort of thing? Sorry buddy but you ain't earned that yet. 
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« Reply #132 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 20:48:02 »

cox hadn't earned the right to knock on sturrock's door after arriving asking why he hadn't started the first game after he arrived either.  he soon proved he had what it takes
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« Reply #133 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 21:09:35 »

you know what i mean, we need to shake this philosophy.

i wasn't looking to be confrontational i just think we need to get away from the too light weight argument in general.

i think billy will do well for himself with a forray into the championship in a few years a possibility.

he wasn't ready to be in our first team and in that respect it's right to let him go and get that elsewhere
Correct. Because at the moment he is too light weight. That is, not physically strong enough, which you need to be and which Maradona was and Messi is. In a few years I expect BB will be as well (possibly not quite as good though).
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« Reply #134 on: Tuesday, July 3, 2012, 21:14:41 »

you know what i mean, we need to shake this philosophy.

i wasn't looking to be confrontational i just think we need to get away from the too light weight argument in general.

i think billy will do well for himself with a forray into the championship in a few years a possibility.

he wasn't ready to be in our first team and in that respect it's right to let him go and get that elsewhere

The words that are escaping everyone's lips is technical ability. BB is not necessarily a "lightweight", but then again he is not built like a "brick shithouse" either. So what is it to be? As alluded to, many of the best forwards in the world are not tanks. But they know where the onion bag is and can hold up play well enough to distribute the ball when a lightening attack is in progress.

Paolo has seen them come and go, in this country and in Italy. My money is on him knowing whether from an early age BB or the likes of him will make it big, where we are heading or not at all.

Remember there is a wage cap next season and every available penny will need to be accounted for to ensure we can compete which is why some players have had the contracts terminated by M/C, if the going gets tough and we need to dip into the market to push on, catch up or maintain a promotion push. BB wages may not have been massive by current norms but to have him paid every month doing little more than bench warming with the occasional cameo appearance may be a luxury we might find we cannot afford.

It's more complex than we often realise.

Sad in a way to see him go with his dad's history and all that, but being loaned out twice last season should have told you all you need to know. He ought to do well, I hope he does anyway. It remains to be seen how well and as they say time will tell.......

Lastly, Crewe were interested, but not that interested, that's why he has gone to the seaside. Crewe have an envious pedigree of producing youngsters to be groomed for the premier league. Ask yourself why BB did not end up there.
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