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Question: Luke McCormick...
Strongly in favour of McCormick getting a chance to rehabilitate at Swindon
Strongly against this. I cannot support this club if he was to join
This doesn't concern me at all. Kudos to Swindon for giving him the chance to play
I don't like it but it won't stop me supporting Swindon
Not bothered.

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« Reply #30 on: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 21:17:43 »

Do you think he has handled the situation badly, or just that the wrong decision was made?

Both.

I think the wrong decision was made in allowing the trial in the first place.
I found his comments today wide of the mark and did nothing to explain what I'd call the lunacy of something so controversial.

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and it has to be made clear that everybody’s thoughts can only go to the family of those two young boys and their father who was badly injured.

“Tragedy is a word used too often, but this was a tragedy and it can never be changed.

“He’ll have to live with that for the rest of his life.

“Our role comes after Luke has been sentenced."

really grates on me. If he was so concerned with the family of the real victims, he wouldn't have entertained the idea or sought their approval first.

He also goes on to dress it up as caring STFC offering "rehabilitation and integration" allowing McCormick to "..to give something back, to show the tragedies of drink driving. ".

To me playing football on a few grand a week after serving 3 1/2 years does anything but show the tragedies of drink driving.

Stinks of business is business and sod the rest to me.

Clearly not everyone will agree with what is after all my opinion.

(sorry Fola, answering a direct question)

Sorry for having a go at you. You have over 10000 posts so you're entitled to be angry once in a while.  Smiley

Post count has nothing to do with it. I can be reactionary, but usually temper down after a sleep. This hasn't happened this time.
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« Reply #31 on: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 21:31:03 »

Maybe it genuinly isn't about just business.He will be a no2 keeper it's not like we are looking at a star striker who we are saying fuck his past he will get us goals.

What if the club have been approached by the player etc and asked if he can go through us to do exactly what wray is saying he wants to do
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« Reply #32 on: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 21:32:11 »

Maybe it genuinly isn't about just business.He will be a no2 keeper it's not like we are looking at a star striker who we are saying fuck his past he will get us goals.

What if the club have been approached by the player etc and asked if he can go through us to do exactly what wray is saying he wants to do

Then I still think he's cocked up by saying yes, because now we have a minimum of weeks of this shit which I am admittedly part of. And worst case he signs and plays and we'll have a sizeable portion of our own fans (let alone the away fans) that will want him anywhere but in goal for us.

Plenty of other keepers around to do the #2 job. Plenty of other ways he can give back to society.

But I take the point that Wray may have been genuine with his intentions. But by his own admission he knew this shitstorm would happen
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« Reply #33 on: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 21:37:21 »

Stinks of business is business and sod the rest to me.

I don't get that argument, the bad press they will get just isn't worth it for the sake of potentially getting a decent keeper on the cheap. Seems to me they made the decision as they felt it was the right thing to do and they're doing it for the right reasons - to give him a chance of rehabilitation and to do some good at the same time.

Maybe something like the club helping him to promote an anti drink driving campaign. But I guess we'll have to wait and see if this is part of a bigger plan.
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« Reply #34 on: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 21:44:47 »

I don't get that argument, the bad press they will get just isn't worth it for the sake of potentially getting a decent keeper on the cheap. Seems to me they made the decision as they felt it was the right thing to do and they're doing it for the right reasons - to give him a chance of rehabilitation and to do some good at the same time.

You could be right, or not. The reason is secondary to the act either way. But, its his club.
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« Reply #35 on: Wednesday, May 23, 2012, 23:04:51 »

8 people have honestly said that they'll stop supporting the club if he joins.

I'm against it, but fucking hell. Have a word!
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« Reply #36 on: Thursday, May 24, 2012, 03:15:08 »

Makes me laugh all these people getting on their soapbox. Every single person on this forum has made a few stupid mistakes in their lifes. He's served his time in prison and judging by the Plymouth forum is very remorseful and a genuinely nice guy who made a stupid mistake.

What's he susposed to do ?? Go in hiding all his life ??

You can only imagine the shit he'll get off opposition fans so fair play to him. Lets hear him speak first.
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« Reply #37 on: Thursday, May 24, 2012, 03:27:09 »

The Sun lapping this up today....

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4335182/Mum-of-2-boys-killed-by-disgraced-goalie-Luke-McCormick-hits-out-after-learning-he-is-poised-to-join-League-One-Swindon-Town.html
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« Reply #38 on: Thursday, May 24, 2012, 03:40:41 »


Oh, the irony in The Sun, taking the moral high ground.
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« Reply #39 on: Thursday, May 24, 2012, 07:32:09 »

Except it's not as Freddies F is a bit of a spazz  Doh
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« Reply #40 on: Thursday, May 24, 2012, 08:20:49 »

8 people have honestly said that they'll stop supporting the club if he joins.

I'm against it, but fucking hell. Have a word!
I agree, bit OTT
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« Reply #41 on: Thursday, May 24, 2012, 12:00:04 »

Oh, the irony in The Sun, taking the moral high ground.

Quote from: The Sun
The 28-year-old will be taken on a trial basis by Town’s bad-boy manager Paolo Di Canio

Was that really necessary?  Of course not... but hell, it helps to sell papers.
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« Reply #42 on: Thursday, May 24, 2012, 12:36:29 »

8 people have honestly said that they'll stop supporting the club if he joins.

I'm against it, but fucking hell. Have a word!

people like to vent. How many people said they'd stopping supporting the club because we appointed a "fascist" manager? I bet a percentage of those are still die hard fans...
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« Reply #43 on: Thursday, May 24, 2012, 12:53:15 »

The only interesting part of the story was that apparently in his plea McCormick said he wasn't going to play football again. Edit. I see now this has been mentioned in another thread. Carry on.
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« Reply #44 on: Thursday, May 24, 2012, 17:50:55 »

people like to vent. How many people said they'd stopping supporting the club because we appointed a "fascist" manager? I bet a percentage of those are still die hard fans...

I think there were about 4 on here and a few I know not on here. To the best of my knowledge, they've all stopped going.  I'm not sure stopping going, really means ceasing to support, or even not coming back at a later date.

It now looks like common sense is going to prevail here....I'm sure there wont be many who will complain about  trying to help rehabilitate the fella to become a useful member of society. Not sure that Mr Wray's aspersion on supermarket shelf stackers was needed, if he was more in touch with reality he'd know that, this is a sought after job these days...to such an extent that many people do it for nothing in the hope of getting a proper paid position, by showing themselves to be good workers.
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