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« Reply #30 on: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 22:06:11 » |
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Not saying it is right Jonny just saying that Negrito isn't the insult people are making it out to be.
There are uses of the n word that aren't an insult (admittedly they involve being black and living in Compton) but that would be a pretty weak argument if you used the word here. Sure he might not have meant it the way it has been received but I don't think he should get any credit for stupidity, using a word derived from an offensive word is risky at best. I just read up on Terry and watched the video for the first time. I'd say he's fucked.
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« Reply #31 on: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 22:13:05 » |
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I understand the point about words having different connotations in different languages and I'm sure "negrito" needn't be derogatory in latin america - however, if true, why did Suarez feel compelled to go on and use the word ten times - was he trying to express affection for Evrito?
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« Reply #32 on: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 22:17:49 » |
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Ridiculous ban. He only said what everyone else thinks anyway.
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« Reply #33 on: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 22:18:52 » |
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Ridiculous ban. He only said what everyone else thinks anyway.
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« Reply #34 on: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 22:20:30 » |
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I dunno not really followed the story an certainly not read 3 pages of what is probably moral outrage
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« Reply #35 on: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 22:31:37 » |
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I understand the point about words having different connotations in different languages and I'm sure "negrito" needn't be derogatory in latin america - however, if true, why did Suarez feel compelled to go on and use the word ten times - was he trying to express affection for Evrito?
That's my point Redrag.Evra said it can be seen on camera ten times,it wasn't seen once. What i find strange in this is that this is basically how it has gone Evra claims he was called a ni**er ten times and can be seen on camera Suarez denies this FA can't find the video evidence and Evra can't provide any FA charge Suarez Suarez admits using Negrito once but not in the racist way Suarez banned Don't get me wrong the word imo is equally as offensive i just find it amazing how a player can be banned based oo another players accusation when the player himself can't provide the evidence that he has told the worldwide media is available.
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« Reply #36 on: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 22:42:31 » |
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Ridiculous ban. He only said what everyone else thinks anyway.
Prize prick.....collect your award. Whatever he said and whatever he thinks he gets paid big bucks for being a pro....grow up and play football....and the same goes for Terry. If they have said it then he is lucky its only 8 matches....at least he has the bottle to admit it,unlike the England captain alas. No sympathy for Suarez because he is the biggest cheat in the Premiership.
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« Reply #37 on: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 22:56:05 » |
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Nice to see Liverpool coming out and begging for sympathy yet again as usual
Justice for the racists
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« Reply #38 on: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 23:01:22 » |
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Wonder how they decided on the 40k fine ? If the FA are going to make that the set fee for every case I can't see many 1st or 2nd division players/clubs being able to afford that sort of money. I know that's the idea to try and cut rasism out but how can the fine vary for let's be honest the same offence. Is a league two player being racist going to be less serious than anyone else ?
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« Reply #39 on: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 23:05:09 » |
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Made me laugh - Di Canio got a 10 game ban for pushing a ref over and Saurez will get his ban halved to 4 games for calling Evra a n*****.
FA need to sort their priorities out
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« Reply #40 on: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 23:08:03 » |
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That's my point Redrag.Evra said it can be seen on camera ten times,it wasn't seen once.
What i find strange in this is that this is basically how it has gone
Evra claims he was called a ni**er ten times and can be seen on camera Suarez denies this FA can't find the video evidence and Evra can't provide any FA charge Suarez Suarez admits using Negrito once but not in the racist way Suarez banned
Yup, a bit dangerous if that is how it has gone. I'd assumed that they had hard facts rather than one case of a "Negrito" that said, I did smile at LFC's "he can be recist, some of his friends/family are black" defence Luis himself is of a mixed race family background as his grandfather was black. He has been personally involved since the 2010 World Cup in a charitable project which uses sport to encourage solidarity amongst people of different backgrounds with the central theme that the colour of a person's skin does not matter; they can all play together as a team.
He has played with black players and mixed with their families whilst with the Uruguay national side and was Captain at Ajax Amsterdam of a team with a proud multi-cultural profile, many of whom became good friends.
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« Reply #41 on: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 23:08:30 » |
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I dunno not really followed the story an certainly not read 3 pages of what is probably moral outrage
Then politely accept my offer to shut the fuck up. "Look at me, I'm DMR, I'm edgy because I say things that annoy people and this validates me". Essentially judging by your post you agree that Patrice Evra deserves to be abused because of the colour of his skin. Well done you.
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« Reply #42 on: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 23:11:15 » |
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Made me laugh - Di Canio got a 10 game ban for pushing a ref over and Saurez will get his ban halved to 4 games for calling Evra a n*****.
FA need to sort their priorities out
The two examples you cite are about 12 years apart. Not really a fair comparison.
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« Reply #43 on: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 23:12:03 » |
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Patrice Evra deserves to be abused because of the colour of his skin. Well done you.
Couldnt have put it better myself and thankyou for the kind words
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« Reply #44 on: Tuesday, December 20, 2011, 23:16:32 » |
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Couldnt have put it better myself and thankyou for the kind words
Clearly this is what is known as "fishing", but even if taken in that context, you are clearly a horrible human being. You need to realise that what you put on here, even if you think it separates you from your normal self, is a reflection on you. Basically, you seem to be proud to be a racist. Well done.
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