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« Reply #15 on: Monday, April 25, 2011, 09:13:55 »

Everyone involved at the club this season ought to take some responsibility for the blame, singling out a particular individual is unfair. I don't think anyone can be held entirely responsible although I agree that Fitton has made some huge mistakes - not replacing Paynter or Greer, showing too much loyalty towards Wilson, his x year plans and some odd decisions like playing in white at Wembley - but doesn't he deserve the chance to show that he's learnt from his mistakes? We've done well since the board came in, escaping relegation, a great season culminating in a visit to Wembley and a great deal of stability at the club.

Hart is to blame for his negative approach and naive team selections which has not improved the side at all; regardless of his belief. The interview on Saturday evening was absurd, his non-responses, his belief that he'd taken the team forward and his overall attitude was one of a child sulking after being told he can't have a PS3.

Cut our losses, ditch the manager and coaching team, cast adrift the dead wood in the squad and rebuild starting tomorrow. If we don't have a good season next year, the rot will have well and truly set in.
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« Reply #16 on: Monday, April 25, 2011, 09:16:17 »

Andrew Fitton, it's your chance now to take brave decisions and either move over or bring in a "winner" who can forge a passion as seen in the Marcari days...if not I suggest Swindon will be playing sub division 3 football for many years to come.    Sad

And this is the key right here. What would have been the point in saving the Club if only to plunge it into years more of utter mediocrity?
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« Reply #17 on: Monday, April 25, 2011, 09:16:42 »

I think it will be Trollope and this will piss some fans off even more. I remember a few years back when a lot of people wanted Trollope here - it shows how one bad season (which is all Trollope has had) can change a person's perspective.

Do you think? How do you define a good season exactly? Rovers are probably a similar sized club to us. Three seasons in League One with only one finish in the top 10 would be alright for you would it?

Oh and Paul Hart has not "made us worse", well not in terms of results and points accumulated anyway. He's just not made us better enough to dig us out of the shit we were in. Sadly it was always obvious that this was going to be the case, as his specialty is in making teams hard to beat and avoiding getting dragged into the relegation spots, rather than making them win and climb out of them.
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« Reply #18 on: Monday, April 25, 2011, 09:17:58 »

Everyone involved at the club this season ought to take some responsibility for the blame, singling out a particular individual is unfair. I don't think anyone can be held entirely responsible

Ever heard the expression, "the buck stops here"? I suspect you probably have Hmmm
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« Reply #19 on: Monday, April 25, 2011, 09:19:21 »

Do you think? How do you define a good season exactly? Rovers are probably a similar sized club to us. Three seasons in League One with only one finish in the top 10 would be alright for you would it?

I'd take that from the position we are in. Rovers budget would have been smaller than ours that I am sure of. He took them to promotion from league 2 and to the JPT final in the same season. Until this season they've always been a good footballing side who have briefly knocked on the L1 play-off door. They just weren't able to find enough consistency under Trollope to take the next step up. Whether that was a player or manager issue I obviously don't know. I'd prefer Trollope to Bodin. Bodin would be a huge risk. Trollope less so and he's proven in L2.
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« Reply #20 on: Monday, April 25, 2011, 09:22:09 »

This season has been a complete shambles. Regardless, I think people are forgetting a lot of good things about the board:

1) Cheap season tickets.
2) Best league finish in years last season.
3) Money is being spent on the squad, no matter how much certain people will deny that fact.
4) Trying to forge good relationships with larger clubs and thus getting in some decent players.

I know this season has wiped out a lot of that goodwill but it's one bad season. Who's not to say Fitton and the board cannot put it right next season?
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« Reply #21 on: Monday, April 25, 2011, 09:23:02 »

I can understand why Fitton gave Danny Wilson so much time, they obviously had a good working relationship as well as trust. Fitton is new to this game, loyalty means a lot to him, his mistake was getting rid of Wilson too late, really didn't matter who he brought in the guy was on a loser.
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« Reply #22 on: Monday, April 25, 2011, 09:24:29 »

I blame the non-replacement if Greer and Paynter on Wilson.

The money was made available, Wilson didn't make the most of it.
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« Reply #23 on: Monday, April 25, 2011, 09:25:17 »

Ever heard the expression, "the buck stops here"? I suspect you probably have Hmmm
Never.


I don't see how Fitton can be directly held accountable for the atrocious performances this season of some of our best players last season.
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« Reply #24 on: Monday, April 25, 2011, 09:26:22 »

I blame the non-replacement if Greer and Paynter on Wilson.

The money was made available, Wilson didn't make the most of it.

I agree. Dossevi signed as Paynter's replacement and we didn't even sign a replacement for Greer as Wilson believed what we had was enough. That said though I do blame Fitton for actually selling Greer. The decision was basically made because he didn't fit into Fitton's youth policy and wanted a longer deal.
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« Reply #25 on: Monday, April 25, 2011, 09:28:18 »

Do you think? How do you define a good season exactly? Rovers are probably a similar sized club to us. Three seasons in League One with only one finish in the top 10 would be alright for you would it?

Oh and Paul Hart has not "made us worse", well not in terms of results and points accumulated anyway. He's just not made us better enough to dig us out of the shit we were in. Sadly it was always obvious that this was going to be the case, as his specialty is in making teams hard to beat and avoiding getting dragged into the relegation spots, rather than making them win and climb out of them.

I'm almost sad enough to go back and look through old posts. I'm just telling you how it is. There's evidently a level of subjectivity as to how well Trollope did with Rovers but it doesn't change the fact people wanted him here and now they don't.

As we're on the subject of Hart, my disappointment has been his Wilson-like tendencies. Strange tactics, stupid substitutions, players out of position. All of those factors suggest he would never turn us around.
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« Reply #26 on: Monday, April 25, 2011, 09:29:00 »

Until this season they've always been a good footballing side who have briefly knocked on the L1 play-off door. They just weren't able to find enough consistency under Trollope to take the next step up.

No they haven't. They've finished 12th, 16th and 10th if that's "knocking on the play off door" then Trollope must have fucking long arms.
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« Reply #27 on: Monday, April 25, 2011, 09:29:44 »

The decision was basically made because he didn't fit into Fitton's youth policy and wanted a longer deal.

Do we know that?

Either way, I stand by what I have been saying all along. Greer was an important player, no doubt about that. But I refuse to believe that his absence will make THIS much of a difference.

Wilson lost the plot on defence tactics/training and/or failed to use resources (which were available) to find a replacement.
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« Reply #28 on: Monday, April 25, 2011, 09:31:28 »

Do we know that?


Yeah. I think Fitton, Wilson and Greer came clean that it was pretty much Fitton's decision at the time.
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« Reply #29 on: Monday, April 25, 2011, 09:34:57 »

If Paul Trollope is made manager here I suggest it will take years to rectify this balls up.
It will tell everybody that Andrew Fitton is running the club lock stock and barrell...It will tell you that he needs to be involved with every decision and Swindon football club will become a static / plastic club without passion.
I never thought I would say this...Bring back Andy King. At the very least it was fun   !!!
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