Fitton to blame...Total joke to blame Paul Hart.

[BANGKOK RED]

Yeah. I think Fitton, Wilson and Greer came clean that it was pretty much Fitton's decision at the time.

OK

Still. There is now way that Greer's absence.

Greer only plays for one team now. What about all the other teams in the league now including 2nd place and the pay-offs. They don't have Greer but they haven't had a train wreck of a season.

Wilson clearly had the resources to sort it, but he got it all so very wrong.

[sonicyouth]

It will tell everybody that Andrew Fitton is running the club lock stock and barrell...It will tell you that he needs to be involved with every decision

Of course he is running the club - he's the chairman.

[BANGKOK RED]

If Paul Trollope is made manager here I suggest it will take years to rectify this balls up.

Why?

Do he not get rovers up at the first time of asking, and on limited resources?

[Nemo]

You know what, I have this strange feeling that the complete balls made of this season may one day turn out to be more than one person's fault.

The manager(s) made mistakes, the chairman made mistakes, the players have made more mistakes than Bob Holt can shake a stick at...

It's almost like blaming it on one person would be a gross oversimplification.

[nochee]

OK

Still. There is now way that Greer's absence is responsible for this mess and if it is.

Greer only plays for one team now. What about all the other teams in the league now including 2nd place and the pay-offs. They don't have Greer but they haven't had a train wreck of a season.

Wilson clearly had the resources to sort it, but he got it all so very wrong.

Wilson had resources but they were very limited. How many times did we hear "We cant get the players to come in"

[NZrobin]

SY....

I'm a business manager and have managers and staff to run my business.
Yes, I monitor and hopefully motive them when the going is hard..especially this year after the Christchurch earth quake.
But I let them manage and take responsibilties.

[BANGKOK RED]

Wilson had resources but they were very limited. How many times did we hear "We cant get the players to come in"

When was it ever stated that was down to resources?

It's clear they had the money. Money was spent on Flint as one for the future and Misun in action.

The money was there (And Wilson himself said the money was there). Wilson didn't know what to do with it!

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

No they haven't. They've finished 12th, 16th and 10th if that's "knocking on the play off door" then Trollope must have fucking long arms.

I said they've knocked on the door a few times. By that I meant that they have been in and around the play-offs at different points every season e.g. last season when we went there and lost 3-0 they were in the top 6. For whatever reason they weren't able to sustain it and finish there. I wasn't referring to league position as such.

[Simon Pieman]

I reckon this season we had the largest playing and transfer budget in years. It's a big squad and that contrasts last season where resources probably were more limited.

[ronnie21]

Having read through all the posts it is clear that the same sort of theme is running through them.  Yes, we sold the wrong players at the wrong time and didn't replace them (couldn't do much about Billy P. leaving), Yes the board took too long in sacking Wilson and in my opinion the appointment of Hart has made us worse!  His tactics of 4-5-1 with a non-proven goalscorer at the 1 is a joke.  Many have said that Danny has been unable to bring in replacements although the money was there - how much of that is down to Fitton's statements that agents are killing the game (and we probably agree with that statement) and he will not deal with them.  The appointment of Hart almost echos the appointment of Jimmy Quinn - a last desperate throw of the dice, sadly it didn't work out for either of them.

[BANGKOK RED]

I don't think Fitton ever said he won't deal with agents, and money has been spent on agents. Do we think that out of all the players that signed, not one had an agent making demands?

He just said he won't allow them to take the piss.

[flammableBen]

Having read through all the posts it is clear that the same sort of theme is running through them.  Yes, we sold the wrong players at the wrong time and didn't replace them (couldn't do much about Billy P. leaving), Yes the board took too long in sacking Wilson and in my opinion the appointment of Hart has made us worse!  His tactics of 4-5-1 with a non-proven goalscorer at the 1 is a joke.  Many have said that Danny has been unable to bring in replacements although the money was there - how much of that is down to Fitton's statements that agents are killing the game (and we probably agree with that statement) and he will not deal with them .  The appointment of Hart almost echos the appointment of Jimmy Quinn - a last desperate throw of the dice, sadly it didn't work out for either of them.

Although Fitton has said that he doesn't like paying agents, wasn't there a table of League one clubs with us far from the bottom on agent fees paid out? So although he says he doesn't like it, it would seem that he still does if it's in the interest of the club.

[Costanza]

Soul searching and finger pointing... It's going to be a long ol' TEF summer.

[Reeves for King]

It's quite simply not Paul Hart's fault. What were people expecting - that he would come in and we would suddenly be amazing? We've been shit all season and it happens sometimes especially when you sell your best players, as selling clubs do. Fact is we got good money for Greer and Austin which'll help us for the future. If I had to blame someone I'd blame Fitton but only for not acting soon enough; the man is keeping us viable with his policies and if we exist but are in League 2, I'll take that rather than not existing at all like Plymouth.

[Nemo]

I've said this before and I will no doubt say it again, but will everyone please stop propogating this complete bollocks about us not dealing with agents?

http://www.football-league.co.uk/staticFiles/a5/3c/0,,10794~146597,00.pdf

This is the Football League's own Agents Fees Report for 2008-9, which I believe is the most recent one published.

You'll notice that Swindon Town paid £35,000 to licensed agents.

In the Division:

- Only one in 20 deals involved a payment to an agent
- 6 clubs did not pay a single penny. Swindon Town was not one of them. Scunthorpe were: they got promoted.
- 18 did pay.
- Across the Football League, 19 clubs did not pay a penny.

There are several legitimate points that can be held against Fitton, but this one comes up time and time again and just clearly isn't true. He may not like the idea of paying agents, but he is willing to do so if it is absolutely necessary.