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« Reply #165 on: Friday, March 18, 2011, 13:59:29 »

Or you could end up with some landed gentry type with some cunt advising him who seems yo have a hold on him & dreams of making money to line his own pockets from mythical redevelopment deals.

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« Reply #166 on: Friday, March 18, 2011, 14:18:25 »

have fitton and co really put 8 mill into the club?
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« Reply #167 on: Friday, March 18, 2011, 14:18:49 »

have fitton and co really put 8 mill into the club?
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« Reply #168 on: Friday, March 18, 2011, 14:33:12 »

after ploughing such huge sums into the club,i'd be feeling a bit sick after fucking the football side up if i were them them.
hopefully lessons have been learned.
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« Reply #169 on: Friday, March 18, 2011, 14:36:40 »

Have to agree with that arriba
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« Reply #170 on: Friday, March 18, 2011, 23:05:32 »

I dont think anyone is screaming to get Fitton or the board out just because we've had a shit season. Equally, they have pretty much universal support for the job they've done with our financial turnaround.

The problem I have is that every mistake made this season on the football side was avoidable. 

They deserve a metaphorical kicking for fucking up and adopting a conceited, arrogant attitude this season on several counts that I'm not going into again - and they'll get one from the fans if we do go down.

Whatever happens, like the man above pointed out; as long as they dont make the same mistakes again, learn some fucking respect for the supporters of the club and move us on in the right direction, I'd rather have them here than some fucked-up consortia.


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« Reply #171 on: Friday, March 18, 2011, 23:24:16 »

I still hold Fitton & Co in very high esteem and I do believe that they will learn from the mistakes that they have made. As a result both they and the club will be all the stronger for it.
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« Reply #172 on: Friday, March 18, 2011, 23:35:03 »

I still hold Wilson mostly accountable for our league position
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« Reply #173 on: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 00:11:10 »

I still hold Wilson mostly accountable for our league position

Well said.

Wilson should of shown some bollocks and stood up to Fitton. The not dealing with agents malarky was very admirable, but no cunt of any worth wanted to sign for us and all we got was fucking dross that no one else wanted.

Benefit of hindsight etc, but Ian Holloway paying for his own ticket and sitting in the Town End to case the club a few years ago when he was unemployed was a massive opportunity missed.

Can anyone imagine him putting up with being limited to signing unproven, young, cast-offs or professionally unrepresented players? He'd of laughed his fucking cock off - which is probably why he was passed over and 'Yes Man' Wilson got the job.

As I said, hopfully lessons have been learned all round.
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« Reply #174 on: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 11:37:19 »

Wilson should of shown some bollocks and stood up to Fitton. The not dealing with agents malarky was very admirable, but no cunt of any worth wanted to sign for us and all we got was fucking dross that no one else wanted.

That suggests Wilson took the job without having a clue about Fitton's ideas about how the club should be run. Which would be pretty stupid by either of them. It's not like Wilson hasn't been allowed to bring in experienced players - see Pericard, Rose, Dossevi, Frampton, Sheehan - it's just they have largely been busts.

I have to say at the time I would have been more upset to see Douglas go than Greer - and everyone's said that's a mistake.

The rational part of me says we are down. The irrational part won't accept it till I see August's fixture list and Crawley and Morecambe on it.
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« Reply #175 on: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 12:07:37 »

Wilson should of shown some bollocks and stood up to Fitton. The not dealing with agents malarky was very admirable, but no cunt of any worth wanted to sign for us and all we got was fucking dross that no one else wanted.

I'm pretty annoyed with this repeated statement, it keeps coming up and it's plain not true. Sure, Fitton detests agents, but I suspect the same could be said of all Football Chairmen.

We pay Agent's fees: it's in black and white on the football league website. Half of our Division paid nothing, including a whole lot of teams above us, but we paid a considerable amount (obviously it doesn't break it down, but the amount looks like several deals to me)

Fitton and Wilson both made mistakes, but this Agents thing is a total Red Herring: do we think we were scouting French lower league striker Thomas Dossevi or do you think his agent might have had something to do with the fact he got a trial here?
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« Reply #176 on: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 12:15:13 »

Dossevi was brought here on the wings of an albatross
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« Reply #177 on: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 12:22:12 »

I meant Wilson is mostly accountable because we got steadily worse as the season wore on.
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« Reply #178 on: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 12:32:00 »

i couldn't give a shit about agents really.i'm more concerned with flogging your best players off the back of nearly going up,and replacing them(or in some cases not at all)with dross.
i hold the chairman and the manager equally accountable.
the chairman clearly had his input and put up barriers-let moves happen,and the manager spent-loaned poorly.
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« Reply #179 on: Saturday, March 19, 2011, 12:44:13 »

I think the only thing Fitton has done wrong is to sell Greer and perhaps only release transfer funds for young promising players. Other than that nobody complained at the players who came in over the summer. There was experience too with Dossevi and Prutton, plus Wilson has previously signed Pericard, Douglas, O'Brien - none of whom are promising youngsters.

Of course it doesn't excuse the fact Greer was (allegedly) sold without Wilson's consent, but I fail to believe that Fitton would block an experienced replacement. Wilson just couldn't attract one to the club and as he'd done with many areas of the squad, wanted to fit square pegs in round holes.
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