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« Reply #90 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 11:29:24 »

I have no desire to see Wilson sacked, I enjoy watching Swindon play more under his management than I have under anyone's since Glenn Hoddle and he has played a big role in stabilising the club. There is no one readily available to come in that I would have any faith in being able to do a better job.

That said, while we were faffing around getting nowhere (or waiting for Danny to fall into our laps if we can credit the board with psychic abilities) following the demise of Malpas, the two 'favourites' for the job seemed to be Ian Holloway and Paul Tisdale. Where we would be now with either of them in charge is pure conjecture, but they're doing alright in the jobs they do have, aren't they?

I'd have Tisdale, but he would have to be sold a vision of a future for the club that is very different to the present, and I reckon that can only come with planning permission for the ground development.
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« Reply #91 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 11:33:32 »

Been thinking about a possible successor, there are some ideal replacements out there should Mr Wilson be handed his p45:

Paul Trollope: Could we tempt the 'Swindon' fan to manage his boyhood team?

John Sheridan: Did incredibly well with Oldham when he was with them, and in his final season was in the playoffs the majority of the season until murdering psycho got into a brawl with him at the racetracks, which resulted in Sheridan leaving, now working wonders with Chesterfield.

Steve Tilson: Did well in this league with Southend, only just joined Lincoln, but the lure of League One may tempt him

Jim Magilton:Has Pox connections, but had Ipswich in top half every year and was doing well until 'that' incident with Buzsaky which resulted in Magilton going

Dean Holdsworth: The next Paul Tisdale? did a cracking job at Newport last year by getting them promoted in March, and now 4th in BSP

Paul Sturrock: I would hate for him to come back and know it will get shot down, but Fitton had an infatuation with this guy and had some man love towards him, Fitton might bring him back for all we know , which would just be a god darn awful decision, but you never know

The quality of the names listed here and the fact that potential replacements are even being mentioned makes me want to cry.

Anyone who wants a change of manager every time their team hits a bad period of form should attend the Milan Manderic School of Football Club Ownership.
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« Reply #92 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 11:42:09 »

Right then so based on your argument even if we got relegated this season because he got us to the play-offs last season he should keep his job?

Since Colchester last season when our form tailed off if you solely look at normal league games it's 6 wins out of the last 24 and that is relegation form no doubt about it!

Last season means nothing now as if we get relegated that would make Fitton's 5 year plan completely impossible and we'll have actually gone backwards in footballing terms compared to when Fitton took over and I can't see him standing for that so I can't see Wilson getting much longer....

No my arguement is, whoever comes in knows we need a old head at the back, and surely Danny Wilson knows this too. So we sack Wilson pay him off and bring someone else in who will do exactly the same thing as Wilson but we are down a few bob now to spend on transfers becuase we made a knee jerk reaction and sacked a proven manager. Given his previous record I am confident Wilson will find a decent player and get his man. Too many times sacking a manager is a knee jerk reaction and results dont really improve.

If by end of January once he gets the chance to bring in decent players perhaps a holding midfielder and a central defender then re-evaluate the situation. Last year counts for nothing but it shows what the team is capable of. We lost the spine of the team and didnt replace. Are we relying too much on Charlie up front, People complain that Ferry has done nothing but he hasnt been given a decent run in the team. Cuthbert will come good again, he just needs that experienced head to lead the way beside him like Greer did last season.

If there is dis-harmony in the dressing room as some have alluded too, it doesn't matter if we sack Wilson and bring in a new manager, those players arent all of a sudden become best friends are they? Sacking now would be a knee-jerk reaction and IMO premature. I am sure no one is sitting back and letting "whatever will be will be" and "they will come good".
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« Reply #93 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 11:48:47 »

No my arguement is, whoever comes in knows we need a old head at the back, and surely Danny Wilson knows this too.

He can, hence Miiiiiiiiiiiiil's Andy Frampton.

Without knowing the facts its hard to say why it took so long to bring him in and why he hasn't gone elsewhere following the injury.
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« Reply #94 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 11:50:08 »

He can, hence Miiiiiiiiiiiiil's Andy Frampton.

Without knowing the facts its hard to say why it took so long to bring him in and why he hasn't gone elsewhere following the injury.

True, I mentioned Frampton in a previous post, saviour? maybe not but apparently is a leader and thats what we need.
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« Reply #95 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 11:53:56 »

No my arguement is, whoever comes in knows we need a old head at the back, and surely Danny Wilson knows this too. So we sack Wilson pay him off and bring someone else in who will do exactly the same thing as Wilson but we are down a few bob now to spend on transfers becuase we made a knee jerk reaction and sacked a proven manager. Given his previous record I am confident Wilson will find a decent player and get his man. Too many times sacking a manager is a knee jerk reaction and results dont really improve.

You said exactly the same with Malpas though you pretty much loved the bloke and were dead against sacking him. In a round a bout way I kind of wish I had your rose tinted specs and could only see the good things in a manager. But sadly i witnessed that mess last night, as I did Yeovil, Dagenham, Leyton Orient etc etc and as well as the players underpermorning the set up and mentality of the tactics are at times just bizarre.
This season thus far has been nothing short of a disaster and I find myself rapidly losing interest.
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« Reply #96 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 11:56:57 »

Bloody hell, if we're relying on Andy fucking Frampton as a "saviour" we're really fucked.

Fair enough he was alright a couple of years ago but he has a shocking recent injury record. We missed the boat in the summer when there were experienced Champ CBs out of contract well within our budget that have now gone to other L1 clubs.

I honestly cannot see DW here beyond January, whether that's right or wrong.
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« Reply #97 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 12:01:50 »

Glos_Robin - If you've not already done so previously in the thread, can you explain what you thought the tactics where last night.

Cheers
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« Reply #98 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 12:05:34 »

Fair enough he was alright a couple of years ago but he has a shocking recent injury record. We missed the boat in the summer when there were experienced Champ CBs out of contract well within our budget that have now gone to other L1 clubs.

Who?
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« Reply #99 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 12:10:37 »

Glos_Robin - If you've not already done so previously in the thread, can you explain what you thought the tactics where last night.

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Playing for a point against a team very short on confidence. Basically barr the back end of the first half we didn't try pressing them or put them under any concerted pressure. It was almost as if we were trying to avoid losing rather than going for a win, in some cases that's fair enough if your playing a good team on their patch but not last night against a struggling team.
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« Reply #100 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 12:14:07 »

no way would we have played for a point.
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« Reply #101 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 12:17:14 »

Accepted last night was not the greatest performance and wasn't even a particularly good game to watch. At no stage did i ever feel we were playing for a point though.
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Panda Paws

« Reply #102 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 12:18:31 »

Fair enough he was alright a couple of years ago but he has a shocking recent injury record. We missed the boat in the summer when there were experienced Champ CBs out of contract well within our budget that have now gone to other L1 clubs.

Who?

As I said at the time and after last night, off the top of my head, Liam Chilvers (100 games for PNE), Gary Doherty (although he's seriously old, and before anyone says that Charlton spend far more than us, they're fucked financially).

Then you've got the like of Michalik and Sam Sodje who left clubs at the top end of this division and would have been average additions, and Marcel Seip has just left Plymouth for Charlton.

Of course there are more too, that anyone in the game charged with finding these players should know of.
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« Reply #103 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 12:18:47 »

One thing nobody has mention..............the financial budget for the season.
Fitton said when he tok over, that Bidgets would be set and stuck with.
Fitton also said [among other things], when he sacked Malpas one of the reasons was that we were OUT OF ALL CUP competions and as such we were not going to hit our budget [target was a word also used].

Therefore, the future of Wilson will be decided this Friday evening. Go through and have a decent Cup run, then he will be here for some time to come. Fail to go through [god forbit - but quite likely], then some faily big questions will be asked at board level. This will be thin ice time.
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Panda Paws

« Reply #104 on: Wednesday, November 24, 2010, 12:23:02 »

One thing nobody has mention..............the financial budget for the season.


is top 6 or 8 in this league, no doubt.

Who is above it?

Soton, Hudders, Wednesday, BHA, Pboro

Plymouth and Charlton because of old contracts still running, but they're doing everything they can to reduce them.

We're probably similar to Franchise and Col U, although the dons have slashed their budget in recent seasons.
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