Team Vs Orient

[Bert1981]

We need a win and a good performance tomorrow to get back on track after Saturday. I wouldn't mess with the team too much because the players need time on the pitch together. With that in mind I would go:

Smith
Caddis-Cuthbert-LJF-Rose
JPM-Ferry-Douglas-Ball
Austin-Dossevi

Tempted to leave Prutton in and see if he and Douglas can work well together but Ferry upped the tempo when he came on Saturday and having missed pre-season with us needs time on the pitch.

Austin & Dossevi have only played 45 minutes together so I would like to see them start to build up an understanding as I think they could be a very good strike partnership for us.

[Stef Troll]

Aye, agree with Bert.

[Batch]

Looks good to me Bert.

[Div]

We need a win and a good performance tomorrow to get back on track after Saturday.

2 things really, back on track? We were never on track, and after one game it's a bit of void comment considering we've got another 40+ games to play. And, it's a cup game, what goes on in the cup has nothing to do with 'getting back on [any] track' in the league. I think it may have been Leeds who showed this last year (ok different comp. but still...)

Sack the squad...they're all shit.  

[Batch]

Sack the squad...they're all shit.  

How did you read Bert's post and come to the conclusion that was what he was saying? 

[donkey]

2 things really, back on track? We were never on track, and after one game it's a bit of void comment considering we've got another 40+ games to play. And, it's a cup game, what goes on in the cup has nothing to do with 'getting back on [any] track' in the league. I think it may have been Leeds who showed this last year (ok different comp. but still...)

Sack the squad...they're all shit.  

But Div, last year, surely the 4-1 win at Milton Keynes went a long way to banishing the 5-0 defeat and helped us move on.

Bart is right.

[Bert1981]

2 things really, back on track? We were never on track, and after one game it's a bit of void comment considering we've got another 40+ games to play. And, it's a cup game, what goes on in the cup has nothing to do with 'getting back on [any] track' in the league. I think it may have been Leeds who showed this last year (ok different comp. but still...)

Sack the squad...they're all shit.  

OK, i'll bite.

Cast your mind back a year, how shit we were all feeling after the 5-0 at Gillingham, then we won 4-1 at Franchise in the cup and all of a sudden the world was a happier place. Winning football games is a habit, the last thing we want is to go to Hartlepool having started our season with 2 straight defeats. The pressure builds looking for that first win. Brighton did not go according to plan, we did not play particularly well (although if you read my comments on the matchday thread you will see that I am not at all concerned by it as we are a new team bedding in) and a win tomorrow night will leave everyone feeling a lot more positive and give the players a bit of confidence.

[Div]

I did reply to donkey before I went out but it hasn't shown, probably because you beat me to it bert, but I'll stick it on when I if back;in the whole of it though I'm agreeing with you,I just got the feeling you felt we were already playoff bound without playing a game. Remember that losing to, what I imagine will be a good side, isn't really a shocker like the 5-0 gills result.

EDIT:
The 5-0 was a shock result, no-one expected that. But brighton are a totally different team to what we thought of Gills at the start of last seaon, so 2-1 isn't a really shocking result, just a coming down to earth. We may have signed some good players, but we played a good side, with a squad which are still gelling. Who'd have thought Lesc would've been everyone's MOM? I'm all for someone stepping up and raking in the goals against Orient, and i agree we can't change the team radically just because we lost one game. It's one game, not a shock result; there is along way to go and a lot more to come from the squad, i'm sure. Things can only get better!

[MichaelPook]

Rest them all up for Saturday where poss -have some depth on bench

Jesonowski
Thompson Evans Morrison Kennedy
Caddis Ferry Timlin(c) O'Brien
Dossevi Pericard
Subs Smith LJF Amankwaah Prutton Ball JPM Austin

[Berniman]

Smith (if Lucas is still injured)

Caddis
Cuthbert
LJF
Kennedy

JPM
Ferry
Douglas
O'Brien

Pericard
Ball

I would play this team but swap Prutton for Douglas.  You don't get much of an opportunity to leave out Douglas, and now with Prutton this is a good opportunity to see how we cope without him after we fell apart for a few games last season. I might also give Morrison a run out at right back and swap JP for Caddis.  JP, Douglas, Charlie and Dossevi on the bench if we needed them.

[nevillew]

Rest them all up for Saturday where poss -have some depth on bench

Jesonowski
Thompson Evans Morrison Kennedy
Caddis Ferry Timlin(c) O'Brien
Dossevi Pericard
Subs Smith LJF Amankwaah Prutton Ball JPM Austin

We could do with winning - possible big draw in the next round, If it was the JPT I'd possibly agree.

[Peter Venkman]

Having watched the friendly at Poole I can wholeheartedly say that Jakub Jesionkowski is not ready for our first team yet.

Give him a game or 2 in the JPT but not an important one, hes a good shot stopper but flaps a bit at crosses and punches more than he catches, he needs games to get confidence and not in the first team...just yet.

[donkey]

I did reply to donkey before I went out but it hasn't shown, probably because you beat me to it bert, but I'll stick it on when I if back;in the whole of it though I'm agreeing with you,I just got the feeling you felt we were already playoff bound without playing a game. Remember that losing to, what I imagine will be a good side, isn't really a shocker like the 5-0 gills result.

EDIT:
The 5-0 was a shock result, no-one expected that. But brighton are a totally different team to what we thought of Gills at the start of last seaon, so 2-1 isn't a really shocking result, just a coming down to earth. We may have signed some good players, but we played a good side, with a squad which are still gelling. Who'd have thought Lesc would've been everyone's MOM? I'm all for someone stepping up and raking in the goals against Orient, and i agree we can't change the team radically just because we lost one game. It's one game, not a shock result; there is along way to go and a lot more to come from the squad, i'm sure. Things can only get better!

Too true and I stand by it, although I should add the caveat that I think we're playoff bound at least.   Like the rest of the post.

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

With the wealth of centre midfeilders we have at the club I think the best formation to use would be the Diamond. Chelsea used it last year and won the league. Newcastle used it on occasions Norwich used it and if I remember rightly Notts county used it too. These four teams won their leagues so I think it's fair to say it works. + The personell we have fits in with it.

On tuesday id go for

Lucas
Rose LJF Cuthbert Caddis
Douglas
Ferry Prutton
JPM
Austin Dossevi.

its gives the defence more cover in douglas who can will in one of the fullback positions when one goes forward. Ferry and Prutton can take turns for one to sit and one to go forward. JPM can be given a free role and can pretty much do what he likes. We'd scare the shit out of teams playing like this.Caddis marauding down the flanks with JPM occupying and austin occupying a defender while the rest of the midfeild flood the box!

what does everyone else reckon'? Im still fucking pissed of about yesterday but I reckon we'll pick oursleves up tuesday.

I agree with this. The reason for that is because we have no wingers. The only decent wide player we have is JP and even he looked lost out on the right hand side on Saturday. Worth a go IMO.

Failing that why not try JP on the left and put Ball on the right? Ball isn't a left footed player but if Danny wants to play him out wide then use him to his strenghs and play him on the right. Other option of course is to move Ball upfront in his favoured role and then play Caddis either RM or LM.

[corner]

      Smith in goal
rose lb ljf cb caddis rb
    ferry  douglas
  jpm   prutton   ball
     austin dossevi

thats my team keep rose ljf and caddis at the back not wing backs would use three cb but we only have 3, if one gets injerd we will be up the shoot. ferry and douglas as cover at the back douglas maybe would have better control as captin. jpm and ball up and down the wings working hard, prutton to be free and do what he wants feed austin and dossevi. Whateva.