Israel, getting away with it again...

[sheepshagger]

I tend not read your posts either Sheepshagger because you come across as an aggressive lout with the intelligence of a four-year-old, and the sexual sophistication of a donkey.  Please fuck off.

Ah the usual answer from you - nothing sensible to say - cant have the debate - so just try to put me down

Nicely true to form Ironside...........

[Lumps]

This is all depressing stuff. I saw Iggy Pop on the telly earlier selling insurance. We're all going to hell in a handcart, not in my name etc, etc

I'm fucking glad someone else found that as disturbing as I did.

[jonny72]

I see the BBC is relentlessly quoting "500 deaths" without any effort to tell us how many of those killed are Hamas terrorists or, how many others were killed because of Hamas.

Just one big bite-sized media friendly number that cannott be independently verified and has come directly from...Hamas.

The BBC, terrorist propoganda peddler.

I don't know what the BBC TV coverage is like, but all the articles on their website come across as balanced especially when it comes to the numbers of casualties being quoted. The numbers that they quote all come from specific sources which they state and those sources are from both sides (Israel and Hamas / Palestine) and independents (such as the UN). As regards how many of the 500 are Hamas terrorists, they have quoted various percentages (from different quoted sources) all of which have been in the range of 75% to 80%.

Its funny but if anything I find the BBC coverage to be biased towards Israel in that they don't condemn their actions or label them as terrorists (as they do Hamas). I'd also question the sources that you use to support claims of bias at the BBC, as a lot of those sources are far from independent themselves. Its easy to forget that the BBC are the number one competitors for pretty much every other news provider in the UK, most of whom have a big problem with the BBC as a result.

[Ironside]

Ah the usual answer from you - nothing sensible to say - cant have the debate - so just try to put me down

Nicely true to form Ironside...........

Fuck a duck.

I've had the debate already with bigger brains than you sheepy.  You've missed the party and now your looking at the fucking passed out drunken girl laying in the garden and wondering whether slip her a length and hope she doesn't notice.

As I stated, I think they're both as bad as each other.
As I stated, i am bored of this.
As I stated I think you're a cunt.

I really can't make it any clearer than this:

Stop stalking me you freaky snot gobbling little shit stain.

Thanks.

PS I like Spacey because he makes me laugh...you could learn a lot from him sheepy.

[pauld]

Paul, I agree with a lot of your points BUT surely Israel need to take some responsibility here as well - its all very good saying it is Iran's fault and the Hamas "nutters" - but Israel are still killing innocent people at an alarming rate.....

Well obviously. What I think I said (can't be arsed to check and if I didn't certainly what I meant to say) is that Hamas and Iran have to take a hefty share of the blame for the whole sorry mess. That doesn't absolve the Israelis, by a long chalk, but they're not solely to blame.

[billy the fish]

the way i see it is israel has told them they where coming if it was here i would take my kids /family away for the area ,not saying its the people  of gaza fault but i would get well out of the way both sides are as bad as the other .get your family to safe grounds now

[pauld]

the way i see it is israel has told them they where coming if it was here i would take my kids /family away for the area ,not saying its the people  of gaza fault but i would get well out of the way both sides are as bad as the other .get your family to safe grounds now

Erm, they can't. The Israelis have blockaded them in.

[billy the fish]

Erm, they can't. The Israelis have blockaded them in.

did they not drop leaflets before they moved in?? ,thats what i was told ,i might be wrong here

[sheepshagger]

Fuck a duck.

I've had the debate already with bigger brains than you sheepy.  You've missed the party and now your looking at the fucking passed out drunken girl laying in the garden and wondering whether slip her a length and hope she doesn't notice.

As I stated, I think they're both as bad as each other.
As I stated, i am bored of this.
As I stated I think you're a cunt.

I really can't make it any clearer than this:

Stop stalking me you freaky snot gobbling little shit stain.

Thanks.

PS I like Spacey because he makes me laugh...you could learn a lot from him sheepy.

What a nice fella you are.......

Why the fuck would I want to make you laugh ?  And as for stalking you......not my cup of tea matey - to be honest 99.9% of what you say is completely irrelevant to me - but just annoys me when you back up people killing innocent kids - I am pretty sure up until that point I raised a couple of issues (not with you) and stated a pretty balanced opinion - far more fucking balanced than you could be bothered with ....

Your paranoia is getting the better of you Ironside - to me you are neither important or relevant - but when you spout shit on an open football forum expect to have shit spouted back at you...

Enjoy your evening

[jonny72]

did they not drop leaflets before they moved in?? ,thats what i was told ,i might be wrong here

Yeah, they dropped leaflets warning of an attack. So everyone moved to the safety of a UN school, which the Israeli's then bombed.

[janaage]

Not that in any way it defends Israeli actions, I heard on Al Jazeera today that Palestinian eye witnesses have said prior to the strike on the UN school there was a group of young men firing rockets, from that area.  What a sad state of affairs this really is. 

Also Al Jazeera have said so far only a handful of the dead are presumed to be "terrorists", something around the 40 mark (I think).  So 600 dead to kill 40 terrorists and many more Palestinians will be up for the role of "terrorist" now, methinks.  Vicious circle or what?

[Ironside]

What a nice fella you are.......

Why the fuck would I want to make you laugh ?  And as for stalking you......not my cup of tea matey - to be honest 99.9% of what you say is completely irrelevant to me - but just annoys me when you back up people killing innocent kids - I am pretty sure up until that point I raised a couple of issues (not with you) and stated a pretty balanced opinion - far more fucking balanced than you could be bothered with ....

Your paranoia is getting the better of you Ironside - to me you are neither important or relevant - but when you spout shit on an open football forum expect to have shit spouted back at you...

Enjoy your evening

But yet you keep replying to my posts?

I'm not backing "killing innocent kids" I'm backing the right for Israel to defend itself.  I'm also saying that most of the media coverage always paints the Israeli's as baddies and "Palestinians" as goodies.

You call your posts "balanced but having read through them again, you come across as being a complete retard who simply follow the the aforementioned media stance.

If anyones posts in this thread has been blanced, I'd say it was PaulD's, which is a little bit suprising in itself because he's got a very liberal political viewpoint and I would have expected him to follow the same line as you and others have.

You really are an utter cunt, Why don't you and go and put yourself in the Gaza strip and support your poor oppressed "Palestinian" friends.  Hopefully the Israeli's will do us all a favour and remove you from the gene pool.

[spacey]

Why can't they just settle things with a game or something? Wouldn't it be great if you turned on the news and the headline was 'reports are coming in that a game of football has broken out in the Middle East.' Get that bald italian fella out of retirement to referee, send Motson and Lawrenson out to report and we can all sit back and enjoy the action.

[Saxondale]

Ironside and sheepshagger captaining each side.  With the referee cracking down on language, I dont think it'd last long!

[Fred Elliot]

If anyones posts in this thread has been blanced, I'd say it was PaulD's, which is a little bit suprising in itself because he's got a very liberal political viewpoint

 

Undoubtedly the best post of 2009 so far !

Just goes to show how you pidgeonhole people without even knowing them Ironside.