fittons latest announcement-fair play imo

[Dazzza]

I still cannot fathom why Money fell through.

He quit his post at Newcastle, was reportedly due to be unveiled as our new manager only for the whole deal to collapse at the 11th hour.

Now I presume that prior to him jumping off the Geordie Wonderland gravy train at the very least he held initial discussions with our board.  I think it would be naïve not to say that during those initial discussions an adequate salary and package was tentatively agreed.

So why commeth the grand unavailing did Dickie Dosh suddenly have a change of heart?  

The Adver reported it this morning as a change in his “contractual details” which reads very much that the bald loon was asking for a thicker wedge than we cared to pay.  I would imagine he has possibly had a snifter of another position becoming available and as a result used it as leverage.

I think old Andrew has to step up the gears a little though otherwise he’s going to find himself in a vicious circle of results and performances deteriorating and the calibre of manager willing to take over our leaking or more than likely sinking ship is going to become even narrower.  Are the men perceived as capable of getting us to the Championship really going to want to take over a club in the relegation zone and staring League two football in the face?

[DV]

Money never quit Newcastle, that was all bollocks.

[Dazzza]

Money never quit Newcastle, that was all bollocks.

Ta DV.  That would make a lot of sense (said the Bishop to the Baker) and would explain the contractual shenanigans.  I’d still be tempted to have a punt on Money managing again before January is out though.

It also raise the question of Fitton’s rather admirable but perhaps doomed  philosophy (quoted in the Adver recently) of only hiring people in work and in-demand in both the beautiful game and in his businesses in general.  If we’re not in a position to pay these chaps off or compensate their existing employers then sights need to be set lower.

Please for the love of Cliff Richard though don’t let it be Danny “Bloody” Wilson.

Either go out and drag Gary Speed by his testicles or settle for Ian Holloway.

[Simon Pieman]

I can't understand how we've gone from having 3 or 4 options who would love to manage us to still having no manager.

Did all 3 or 4 deals fall through? If they did, then a couple of weeks have probably been wasted which is a shame.

[Arriba]

fitton should say nothing now until the work is done.

[janaage]

I still cannot fathom why Money fell through.

He quit his post at Newcastle, was reportedly due to be unveiled as our new manager only for the whole deal to collapse at the 11th hour.

Now I presume that prior to him jumping off the Geordie Wonderland gravy train at the very least he held initial discussions with our board.  I think it would be naïve not to say that during those initial discussions an adequate salary and package was tentatively agreed.

So why commeth the grand unavailing did Dickie Dosh suddenly have a change of heart?  

The Adver reported it this morning as a change in his “contractual details” which reads very much that the bald loon was asking for a thicker wedge than we cared to pay.  I would imagine he has possibly had a snifter of another position becoming available and as a result used it as leverage.

I think old Andrew has to step up the gears a little though otherwise he’s going to find himself in a vicious circle of results and performances deteriorating and the calibre of manager willing to take over our leaking or more than likely sinking ship is going to become even narrower.  Are the men perceived as capable of getting us to the Championship really going to want to take over a club in the relegation zone and staring League two football in the face?

As I posted earlier, I was told the deal fell through due to a clause in the contract, which Money got the hump with and just stormed out, he was not a happy man at all.

[Simon Pieman]

I agree arriba. I think it's good he has been honest recently, I think the main error on his part was all the talk of the wow factor and getting fans expectations up.

Should get a deal done before Christmas and announce it on Wednesday. That would be awesome.
That may seem quick, but we must have interviewed most of the managers who would come here so there is no need to interview them again.

[Colin Todd]

I think the problem is that fitton is setting his criteria so strictly that it rules out a lot of decent managers who could do a job for us straight away.

I can understand the emphasis on bringing youth through, but he's hiring for a 1st team manager here, so the focus should be on the candidates ability to manage the 1st team,  with their ability / willingness to play youth team products as a strictly secondary concern.

Its great trying to plan for the long term, but in the short term we're looking increasingly desperate. We need someone to fire a rocket up the 1st teams collective arses and bring some new ideas and players.  If the youths are good enough then they will get games regardless. All lower league managers cant be that opposed to playing youngsters at times - squad sizes and budgets will dictate that

[janaage]

Nah would be better if Fitton sorts the next manager out away from the public attention.  Then on Sunday they can introduce a bloke onto the pitch dressed as Father Christmas, all the adul;ts in the ground groan, not interested, then the Father Christmas takes off his hood and beard and way hey!!  It's Ian Holloway, our new manager.

[Dazzza]

As I posted earlier, I was told the deal fell through due to a clause in the contract, which Money got the hump with and just stormed out, he was not a happy man at all.

Do you think that's the case chief?  It does seem a bit rash even for Money who has a fairly “lively” temperament and something like that in a contract is there to be resolved.  You don’t march out unless you’re being offered a real bum steer on what must have been agreed verbally.

Although if he had marched on a point of issue rather I wouldn’t blame Fitton for kicking him into touch there and then and starting the ball rolling again on looking for someone new.  After all could you or would you ant to work with someone like that?

It must be difficult with the clock ticking down to Christmas and knowing that post festive season we’re going to be realistically more of an unattractive proposition than we were a few weeks ago. 
 

[janaage]

I'm not sure if I believe it or not tbh Dazzza, but it sounded to me that one thing had been agreed,l then when it came down to actually going through the contract point by point there was some nasty surprise, as it were, for RM, causing him to spit the dummy.

I suppose if you'd decided to leave one roll after thinking you'd be offered "A" and you get down to Wilts to sign up only to find offer "B" was now on the table, you ain't gonan be impressed.

[jimbob]

surely it was simply a case of Newcastle offering him a better deal to stay?? and probably matching what we were gonna be paying him and he thought fuck it, less hassle, I'm staying put.....and don't want to work with that cock-byrne either!

[Bogus Dave]

i wouldn't want to work with a cock burn. sounds painfull

[jimbob]

i wouldn't want to work with a cock burn. sounds painfull

glad u got the pun dave

[@MacPhlea]

I can't understand how we've gone from having 3 or 4 options who would love to manage us to still having no manager.

Did all 3 or 4 deals fall through? If they did, then a couple of weeks have probably been wasted which is a shame.

I think that Options 1 and 2 fel through  (Calderwood and Money) and in the meantime other options became available who were deemed better than options 2 and 3 and so they tok the decision to re-assess rather than bow to pressure and opt for second best