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« Reply #15 on: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:02:18 » |
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yes it is down to him...correct me if I'm wrong but you can choose to chuck the towel in at any point cant you?? he is partly to blame as he was and is part of the 1st team set up as is williams and goalkeeping coach.byrne was part of Team Malpas and that is reflected in the shit we're currently producing.....most successful managers have a decent number 2 behind them and likewise most unsuccessful managers have a number 2 that aint up to it either.
If we're getting someone semi-proven in, I'm hopeful they'll bring their own team with em....e.g. holloway and tim breacker from memory??...not quite sure what'll happen if we appoint a first time manager but if its Speed, then chances are, it'll be zippy...
either way, i won't be too disappointed to see the back of byrne tbh
Yeah, you can chuck the towel in at any time. Byrne, like most of us, has a mortgage and bills to pay. His position at the club is assistant manager. He was asked to fill in as caretaker. If he refused he would probably have gone. So he filled in and it hasn't worked out. It's called ambition. It's also called employment. You don't know what he's like in his proper role, no one does. If he had refused to look after the team, what would you have thought of him then?
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« Reply #16 on: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:02:27 » |
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yeah, lets vent our anger at the local press to make us feel better  Did anyone say that? No. i am simply stating that before slating others they should sort themselves out first
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« Reply #17 on: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:02:33 » |
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yeah, lets vent our anger at the local press to make us feel better  Shooting the messenger does seem a bit unnecessary at the moment...of greater concern, should be AF"s angsty outpouring...is this a clever ploy, or the signs of a man starting to doubt his ability to do the job?
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« Reply #18 on: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:04:07 » |
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Shooting the messenger does seem a bit unnecessary at the moment...of greater concern, should be AF"s angsty outpouring...is this a clever ploy, or the signs of a man starting to doubt his ability to do the job?
Did you see the article on saturday Reg?
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« Reply #19 on: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:06:32 » |
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Did you see the article on saturday Reg?
This would have been the Adver sports desk comment on matters STFC? Nah don't read that shit.
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« Reply #20 on: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:08:08 » |
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Yeah that was it. Was totally uncalled for in my opinion
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« Reply #21 on: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:10:13 » |
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what did it say?
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« Reply #22 on: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:10:24 » |
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The adver has got worse since Cryer left.
Never thought I'd miss the shitty fan.
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« Reply #23 on: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:10:45 » |
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Loads of words and shit
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« Reply #24 on: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:14:18 » |
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Loads of words and shit
Which is why I don't read it...
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« Reply #25 on: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:20:38 » |
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Would you be happy with Zippy as assistant manager then? Granted Dave byrne has not got the results and he has admitted this himself but surely you can see he has a team playing and i would say close to half of them are just not interested or are simply not good enough.
Now i am not privvy to this information but explain to me what Byrne or any manager can do when in reality the first 11 picks itself and we have no fringe players pushing for starting place whatsoever because of bad signings in the summer. Mgovern has no one pushing him aljofree doesn't either. Phil smith if reports of brez wanting to leave are true has no one breathing down his neck.Paynter and cox are a dead cert judging by peacocks performance up front saturday and barry corr is miles of being fully fit.
If players do not want to play or are simply not good enough even fergie would struggle.
firstly I believe we've got a good enough squad to be mid-table. Secondly if the players do not want to play, that spells that the man-management isn't right i.e. some players will need an arm put round them and others will need to be bawled at along with telling each individuals their jobs for the day e.g. lets not chase them down on the half way line as they're not going to hurt us there (cough) but just gets 2 banks of four and keep the shape. Fergie would have us in the play-offs as he would get the best out of them because he knows how to man-manage. and yes I would be happy with Zippy as number 2 and Digby reckons he should be as well so that seals it for me ;-)
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« Reply #26 on: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:23:20 » |
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The adver has got worse since Cryer left.
Never thought I'd miss the shitty fan.
They have indeed. I wonder if they have been cut out of the official information. What we seem to have now is numerous "the next manager could be.." with random names seemingly plucked out of thin air or internet message boards. It's like the Salem Witch Trials, but with less witches. And not in Salem. And noone is on trial.
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« Reply #27 on: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:32:09 » |
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Yeah, you can chuck the towel in at any time. Byrne, like most of us, has a mortgage and bills to pay. His position at the club is assistant manager. He was asked to fill in as caretaker. If he refused he would probably have gone. So he filled in and it hasn't worked out.
It's called ambition. It's also called employment.
You don't know what he's like in his proper role, no one does. If he had refused to look after the team, what would you have thought of him then?
you're right, its all speculation....how do you know he has a mortgage?? his Mrs might pay the bills? how do we know he would have gone if he didn't fancy stepping up to the mark?? ambition I admire but realism is where its at...he will never be good enough to manage at league level but he has unfortunately found that out at our expense.Come on, did he really have that belief?? I'd have had a lot more respect for Byrne if he'd have said at the start that he wasn't up to it...and we'd have then appointed an interim manager and be sniffing play-offs by now ;-) I beg to differ that no-one knows what he is like in his proper role....players will know, fitton certainly knows which is why Byrnes name has never really been in the frame in all honesty. hindsight is a wonderful thing, but I actually thought when fitton sacked MM that he had someone lined up-I should have never doubted fittons integrity
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« Reply #28 on: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:53:58 » |
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There is no way I am saying 'fair play' to this Fitton statement.
We're shit and in serious trouble and all this statement says to me is
WE STILL HAVENT GOT A FUCKING MANAGER!
Perhaps Fitton should spend less time making pointless statements to the adver and instead
GET US A FUCKING MANAGER
There is no point and no need to drag this out, I dont care if we just get someone in till the end of the season to do a job, bloody do it.
In conclusion
MANAGER NOW!
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« Reply #29 on: Monday, December 22, 2008, 10:57:02 » |
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There is no way I am saying 'fair play' to this Fitton statement.
We're shit and in serious trouble and all this statement says to me is
WE STILL HAVENT GOT A FUCKING MANAGER!
Perhaps Fitton should spend less time making pointless statements to the adver and instead
GET US A FUCKING MANAGER
There is no point and no need to drag this out, I dont care if we just get someone in till the end of the season to do a job, bloody do it.
In conclusion
MANAGER NOW!
Come on Dan I think Fitton knows we need one ASAP. He's been in contact with Wilson and McAllister by the looks of it. What more can he do?
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