Relegation ?

[Colin Todd]

That sides midfield makes our current one look fantastic.  

Gurney in midfield - I'd happily erased the pain of watching that from my brain

Point taken about the back 4 and keepers being much of a muchness

I'd rather have cox over cureton in a struggling side based on work rate.

[Reg Smeeton]

 Harking back to 05/06, had we won that Rotherham game, we'd have moved to 13th in the league.  This with 34 games gone.

 In order to stay up and get those points mentioned realistically it will happen in home games..in 05/06 after that Rotherham game with 17 games gone we'd conceded 24 goals at home this season after 11 it's 21.

 This current side is not just averagely inept, it's seriously inept. Whoever takes it on will have be a firefighter...hopefully it will still be Money and he can start by tightening up at the back, by bringing in fresh faces.

[dogs]

Fully agree there about being seriously inept, some of the stuff we play is non-league. I can see us being bottom 2 in a few games time.

[Colin Todd]

without looking at the stats reg, I suspect we've score quite a few more as well.

I'm not trying to gloss over our current plight,  but if I were a manager I'd rather take over a side that scores goals but ships far too many than vice versa.  Its easier to sort out in my opinion,  be it via coaching or new players. decent defenders are easier to come by that decent strikers or creative players.  generally.

[Reg Smeeton]

without looking at the stats reg, I suspect we've score quite a few more as well.

I'm not trying to gloss over our current plight,  but if I were a manager I'd rather take over a side that scores goals but ships far too many than vice versa.  Its easier to sort out in my opinion,  be it via coaching or new players. decent defenders are easier to come by that decent strikers or creative players.  generally.

 At the same stage...yes you're right, 26 in 05/06 32 on 08/09.

 However, my overall point remains we're very much candidates for relegation, and changes are needed if we're to avoid this. Of course a new manager can affect change, but it will take a bit of time.

[Batch]

However, my overall point remains we're very much candidates for relegation, and changes are needed if we're to avoid this.

Aboslutely, but we do have most of the tools needed to get out of this. But what good is a spade in the frozen ground. What good is a drill for hammering in. What good is a spoon when all you need is a knife.

Actually perhaps tools isn't the right word, or is it.

Anyway the point is last time we were shit and everyone knew it. This time on paper we look like we have a fighting chance.

[Colin Todd]

I think we all agree that change is required.

My point is that if the new manager can get the most out of the existing squad (or at least sturrock-esque levels of performance) and add a couple of decent players, then we wont have a problem.

If he cant manage taht then we're fucked.

[Samdy Gray]

On paper we should be finishing 8th - 14th but it's just not happening.

[pumbaa]

I still don't have the answer to my question on Page 4. Only I know that Brez told DRS in Suju that he doesn't want to play for us again? Why? Because he has been made a scapegoat for errors and forced to sit on the bench and watch Smith make errors?

If thats the case, he is just a spoilt prick who should be released from his contract immediately. We need players here who WANT to play for Swindon Town Football Club, not those who sit on the bench with a strop on because they aren't playing........

[flammableBen]

I still don't have the answer to my question on Page 4. Only I know that Brez told DRS in Suju that he doesn't want to play for us again? Why? Because he has been made a scapegoat for errors and forced to sit on the bench and watch Smith make errors?

If thats the case, he is just a spoilt prick who should be released from his contract immediately. We need players here who WANT to play for Swindon Town Football Club, not those who sit on the bench with a strop on because they aren't playing........

It also makes sense that if he's not happy, and the chopping and changing has become disruptive, then you pick and stick with the keeper who is happy to be at the club.

You're right though, I have no hard evidence that he's not happy. Heard it a few places, although I'm not someone who claims to have proper sauces, and it does seem to fit.

Either way, I think the weekly keeper switch around has been a factor in their down turn in confidence. Do we start it again now? Or do we stick with Smith, trying to get him back on form?

[Colin Todd]

Smiths had his run of games, and made numerous fuck ups. As over rated as I think he is I'd be tempted to give Brezovan the same run now.

Agree that changing every week isnt a good idea, but sticking with a keeper in poor form just for the sake of consistancy is cutting off your nose to spite your face.

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

Why give Brez a chance? He's been fucking dire this season as well.

[Colin Todd]

Why give Brez a chance? He's been fucking dire this season as well.

I know, and agree.

But its either give brez a chance on the basis he cant really do any worse or get a new keeper, because we cant just go on letting smith make so many mistakes without doing anything about it

[jimbob]

Leeds have had the same problems with their keepers this season apparently....a lot of similarities, managerless, beaten by Histon, had wise in charge briefly, lost as many games as us, in a relegation scrap....oh...

[DV]

...and they'll have a new manager in by tomorrow.