Relegation ?

[Don Rogers Shop]

Agree 100% What they need is someone who tells them what to do, when to do it and how to do it.
They also need a manager who can get the best out of them.

See i disagree.
Smith not good enough (can be but not at the moment)
Ifil & Aljofree not good enough
Pook
Mcgovern
Marshall
Casal
Paynter
Sturrock
Corr(due to fitness)
Peacock

Not one of those players imo can play any better than what they have done so far this season. Any new manager that comes in will keep getting abuse if we keep the mentality that are players are better than what they are.

[Reg Smeeton]

Some might call me deluded but I still think our squad is good enough to stay up. There are some glaring weakneses in it, but on paper our 1st XI is a mid table league 1 side.

They are stuck in a rut and low on confidence though. The back 4 needs specialist work. If the new manager is any good he really should be able to guide this lot (+ a couple of additions) back into mid table. Its a much better side than the last L1 relegation seasson.

 Nah....by way of comparison look at a game v Blackpool around the same time in 05.

 Evans in goal...far better than Smith or Brez.

 Jack Smith...the same as.  Ifil, O'Hanlon....Nicholas.  OK not great but could be a  steady unit, got a clean sheet on the day.

 McDermott Migz and Pook Bouazza

 Fallon, Mikolanda.

 Problem with that side...Mikolanda was shit, seem to remember a couple of sitters missed..

 I'd say not a lot of difference really.

 Interestingly in the Blackpool line up was an obscure full back Simon Grayson...who was made manager and took them up, the following season.

[herthab]

See i disagree.
Smith not good enough (can be but not at the moment) Confidence (In himself and back four)
Ifil & Aljofree not good enough  They were under Sturrock
Pook His first few games back showed he can be useful
Mcgovern He's shown brief glimpses that he can deliver
Marshall Agree
Casal Agree
Paynter He was very good at the beginning of the season
Sturrock Underused and undervalued (imo)
Corr(due to fitness) Agreed
Peacock Needs clear direction but can turn in good performances

Not one of those players imo can play any better than what they have done so far this season. Any new manager that comes in will keep getting abuse if we keep the mentality that are players are better than what they are.

Apart from the three that I accept are not good enough, the rest could and should be good enough in this League. Hopefully when we get a manager who knows his onions (Laurent Blanc?) they will start to show it.

[Don Rogers Shop]

Understand what you are saying steve but i don't think we can get anymore out of those players.The best we can hope for is what you say in mcgovern's case that we may get glimpses.

[Colin Todd]

Nah....by way of comparison look at a game v Blackpool around the same time in 05.

 Evans in goal...far better than Smith or Brez.

 Jack Smith...the same as.  Ifil, O'Hanlon....Nicholas.  OK not great but could be a  steady unit, got a clean sheet on the day.

 McDermott Migz and Pook Bouazza

 Fallon, Mikolanda.

 Problem with that side...Mikolanda was shit, seem to remember a couple of sitters missed..

 I'd say not a lot of difference really.

 Interestingly in the Blackpool line up was an obscure full back Simon Grayson...who was made manager and took them up, the following season.

Fair point with that side you have highlighted, but I was thinking of Iffys team post xmas where the likes of Shakes, comyn platt, Benjamin, Brown were all regulars

[Samdy Gray]

We need 32 points from the remaining 25 games to reach the magic 52 points. That's 1.28 points per game. Put another way, we need to win another 11 games. On current form that's a tough ask.

[DV]

ifil was at error for all 3 goals.

the one where Sean Morrison stopped with his arm up in the air as their midfielder ran straight past him through on goal was definitely Ifils fault.

Our players are good enough, Sturrock proved this.

[Don Rogers Shop]

No they are not Dv the league table proves this.

[Colin Todd]

I think the point is a lot of the 05/06 team couldnt perform to a higher level than they did. We had some triers but they lacked quality bar a few players. Bouazza was decent for a bit, as was cureton.  Migz , for a good player he was very poor that season bar a few games.

We've all seen with our own eyes quite a few of the current lot perform to a better level than they currently are , in cases like Ifil, Aljofree and the keepers on a pretty consitant basis under different management.

[Colin Todd]

We need 32 points from the remaining 25 games to reach the magic 52 points. That's 1.28 points per game. Put another way, we need to win another 11 games. On current form that's a tough ask.

We dont need to win 11. We're bound to draw some games.

[Colin Todd]

No they are not Dv the league table proves this.

There is a difference DRS. The way they have performed we deserve to be where we are,  no question.  Do they have the potential to do much better?   yes.

[Samdy Gray]

We dont need to win 11. We're bound to draw some games.

True, but I was just trying to make a point.

Averaging 4 points every three games i.e. win one, draw one, lose one, would also see us safe.

[Reg Smeeton]

 CT...Let's look at the side that lost the clutch game v Rotherham, late Feb.

 Evans
 Smith
 Ifil
 O'Hanlon
 Nicho
 Shakes
 Gurney
 Migz
 Brown
 Peacock
 Cureton

 Certainly an experienced line up...casually tossed away a key 3 points after leading at half time.

 Still a lot of similarities to our present side.
 

 

 

[Samdy Gray]

I'm going to keep tabs on the W,D,L sequence by breaking down our fixtures into groups of three:

Leyton Orient
Brighton
Stockport
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Millwall
Huddersfield
Hartlepool
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Walsall
Oldham
Northampton
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Southend
Leicester
Scunthorpe
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Tranmere
Cheltenham
Franchise
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Colchester
Leeds
Hereford
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Yeovil
Crewe
Brighton
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Leyton Orient
Carlisle
Bristol Rovers
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Peterborough

It's definitely achievable, depends whether the team are up to it.
 
 

[herthab]

I think we should lose all our games, up to and including Cheltenham. Then win our last 11.

Just to make it exciting......