Is stability really the best policy?

[nochee]

If MM goes King will be back... 

Better fucking not!!!!

[flammableBen]

Obviously nothing is guaranteed.  But you have to say that the probability of someone with a decent track record being sucessful here is greater than that of someone with a poor / unproven record.

All managers have to start somewhere, and we have a better record than most in the last couple of decades for giving mangers their 1st opportunity and it working out well. But I dont think that now is the time for appionting a rookie.

To be honest I think it's a pretty good time to start trying out rookies. Fitton and co have said they want to run the club with some financial stability, which may not include splashing out more for managers. As a club we're at what can generally be considered our natural level in the football pyramid. Oh and the aforementioned stability off the pitch, probably a good thing.

Obviously ideally you'd want a new rookie manager to come in for pre-season, but that's a luxury of timing and applies to any manager.

[Colin Todd]

I understand your point, but it is far more important than any of that currently is that a new manager could come in and give the team a lift and start winning some games. 

I think that someone who has done that before stands a greater chance of achieveing compared to a rookie - but thats not to say that a rookie could not achieve it - Ince @ macclesfield being a good example.  The club wouldnt have to spalsh out as such - there are some reasonable unemployed managers, although I've no idea what sort of salary they would expect compared to MM

[STFC Bart]

When Fitton came in he stated that someone would  be appointed with a proven track record. This never occured hence we have dropped from 8th in the division to 20th in 9 months with largely the same players.

The only stability you will get with this management team is relegation. It is all very well coming up with plans for the CCC in 3 years- but to do that on a shoestring you need a competent/experienced management team who can get results (Sturrock) with medicore players. Since Malpas came in he has done exactly the opposite. Coupled with the fact he cannopt attract decent loanees (unlike Allen love him or hate him) he simply has to go and the sooner the better.

[Batch]

Keep the faith Bart. The STFC phoenix will rise from the flames. Oh yes, we are on the up from tonight. Remember where you read it first.

[flammableBen]

What do you think you've bought to this thread bart? Was it worth your time?

[Bogus Dave]

To be fair, at least theres reasoning behind that. And some truth

[herthab]

Keep the faith Bart. The STFC phoenix will rise from the flames. Oh yes, we are on the up from tonight. Remember where you read it first.

Yeah. From me, yesterday....

[reeves4england]

To be fair, at least theres reasoning behind that. And some truth

I agree. For once, Bart's post seemed pretty reasonable.

I tend to sit on the fence when it comes to managers. I only really decided King's time was up when we entered that aweful spell in which Iffy was appointed. I supported Malpas when he came and continued to argue that we should give him more time until very recently, but now I just cannot see him getting us out of this. The players are perfectly capable of mid-table but it's not been evident at all this year.

So who do we bring in? I understand the point that proven managers can bring success and move on, but a string of expensive 'names' is likely to be a plan that falls apart and gets us into another financial mess. I'm feeling a bit out of the football loop at the moment, so can't really name any names, but I'd like to see a respected, experienced league 1/league 2 manager with some sort of reputation for getting a team to play as a solid unit. I think that would help us get more out of games than Malpas' 'footballing ideology'

[pauld]

It is all very well coming up with plans for the CCC in 3 years- but to do that on a shoestring

And for the 48th time, it's not being done on a shoestring. If you can't tell the difference between not lashing out cash like a man with no arms and penny-pinching, that's your affair, but don't keep recycling this.

[Power to people]

You don't have to 'splash out' for a proven manager or a big name, there are such things as incentives though, build bonuses into the managers contract so he is not picking up a big wage but give bonuses for league place, play-off's, cup run's etc and even build it in so the manager perhaps get's a cut of gate receipts over x000. so his contract is tailored towards rewards for sucess.

[Batch]

Yeah. From me, yesterday....

I'm spreading the word of Herthab

[DV]

a big name or proven manager doesnt guarentee any stability what so ever. Its still a gamble.

I expect Leicester fans were happy enough when they appointed Ian Holloway, good track record and all that, stability....then he got them relegated

[Batch]

a big name or proven manager doesnt guarentee any stability what so ever. Its still a gamble.

I expect Leicester fans were happy enough when they appointed Ian Holloway, good track record and all that, stability....then he got them relegated

Less risk though.

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

Some Leicester fans do admit that Holloway was actually a pretty good manager though. And some of them reckoned that if they hadn't have fucked around with Megson and got Holloway in straight away they wouldn't have gone down.