Is stability really the best policy?

[STFCere]

for a club like swindon, i dont think so.  ok, clubs like man u and arsenal have built their success on stability and continuity. but it doesnt work like that for clubs like swindon. Since hoddle, i would argue we have had three decent managers: hoddle, wise, and sturrock. All three have been picked by bigger clubs, chelsea leeds and plymouth. Its not possible to have both stability and success for clubs like swindon because as soon as you have a decent manager they get pinched/walk to a bigger club. whats the point of trying to maintain stability with a crap manager? this is where i disagree with fitton - id rather have a string of decent managers that stay with the club for a short period of time but are successful than trying to string out the tenure of an average/crap manager (malpas). The cost of sacking him would turn out to be much smaller than lost revenues etc by getting relegated.

At this stage of the season you start to get a picture of where we will be at the end. its clear that malpas is dragging us into a relegation battle and it makes sense to act early than wait until is too late.

however, i dont think holloway is the answer. the only reason hes popular with supporters is his witty remarks - his record isnt great and hes been out the game for a while. fitton made a mistake appointing malpas, and he now needs to swallow his pride and try again. take your time mr fitton, appoint the right man.

[Simon Pieman]

And how will we pay for chopping and changing all of the time? I agree Malpas has to go, even agree that Holloway isn't the best choice, but I don't think Fitton wants to go down the road of spending endless amounts of money, which is what will happen if we get a string of managers every 2 or 3 years.

I agree it's going to get to the stage where spending now will be beneficial compared to lost revenue with fans not coming along, but in reality stability and sustainability is the business model being used.

Also, we best not piss Fitton off too much. The lease for the CG is up in 2011, they'll have decided what to do regarding a (re)development and may decide it's not worth the hassle us fans moan at Fitton all the time.

[Don Rogers Shop]

I may of misunderstood but i would imagine the compo would pay for new managment. Cant remember the last time a manager left purely due to his contract ending. Fwiw i think stfcere has a good point

[JPC82]

we have to accept we will be a stepping stone for managers and players, if Malpas turned it round starting tomorrow and we get promoted he would fuck off to a better team if a offer came in, but he wont, he will get sacked after yet 2 more home defeats

[STFCere]

what im saying is that it would make more sense to be ambitious in appointing a manager, go for someone with a track record who may be more expensive. if they leave early you get good results and compensation, then bring in another proven manager. the gamble which fitton took is to go for an unproven cheaper manager who we are now stuck with because its too expensive to sack him.

[Reg Smeeton]

 Management is such an inexact science though...you could bring in an expensive name, and they fuck up and you're left paying off a massive compensation....eg Spurs.

 In our case both T*dd and Evans had big reputations, fortunately T*dd jumped ship, and Evans was principled enough to not want to bankrupt the club, and so walked.

 Bottom line is Fitton and co, saved the club from oblivion and so have earned the right to do things as they see fit...we have the right to either go along with this, or as an increasing number seem to be doing, withdraw support.

[pumbaa]

I have to take issue with Wise and Sturrock being classed as 'decent managers' for us. Wise had half a season (thats generous as it includes the pre-season) in League 2 before walking away. Sturrock spent approximately a year here, sustained the good platform Wise built and consolidated in the league above. All fine and dandy in their own way, but nowhere near what Hoddle achieved.

Although that wasn't the crux of your argument, so feel free to ignore this pedantic cunt and carry on regardless.......

[STFCere]

for example: cotterill, curbishley, billy davies, john gregory, hoddle, bryan robson, vialli, are all out of work currently and in my view none are unrealistic targets. i would imagine most unemployed managers would jump at the chance of getting back into football - my idea would be to bring someone in along these lines, get the results in, they leave after 6-12months to go to a bigger club bring in the compo and then bring in another decent manager. in my eyes stability is not necessarily key to success on the pitch

[leefer]

I would rather go for the gamble on decent players...its not too expensive to sack him,it will be more expensive if we get relegated,i for one was all for giving MMthe benefit but i feel if we lose tomorow then 6 home defeats will be his unlucky number,reading between the lines he is unhappy the effect ll this is having on his family and another defeat will be the last straw.
Lots of unproven managers have gone on to do big things,MM looks like he isnt one of them,though i hasten to add the team will be getting my full support tomorow as always during the 90 mins.

[Bogus Dave]

i think a change of manager every week is exactly what we need

[JPC82]

curbishley davies hoddle robson vialli are all very unrealistic, cotterill would be a shout, gregory is fucked in football because of all the bungs he took at villa

[Don Rogers Shop]

You was doing so well

for example: cotterill, curbishley, billy davies, john gregory, hoddle, bryan robson, vialli, are all out of work currently and in my view none are unrealistic targets. i would imagine most unemployed managers would jump at the chance of getting back into football - my idea would be to bring someone in along these lines, get the results in, they leave after 6-12months to go to a bigger club bring in the compo and then bring in another decent manager. in my eyes stability is not necessarily key to success on the pitch

[pumbaa]

curbishley davies hoddle robson vialli are all very unrealistic, cotterill would be a shout, gregory is fucked in football because of all the bungs he took at villa

I would agree with all of the above except Billy Davies. What makes you think he wouldn't take on something in L1 to rebuild his reputation?

[Don Rogers Shop]

Motd has made him too high profile

[STFCere]

the other key issue is contacts - malpas has no contacts to bring in decent players. a more expensive short term manager would have the contacts to bring in decent players, build a stronger team, he walks off to a bigger club six months later, in rolls the compo, bring in another decent proven manager