Malpas

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

There's no buzz is there? New owners, bought in a few players into a squad which wasn't bad last year, especially if you consider all the management changes throughout the club. Yet fans seem to be stuck in a cycle of negativity.

As a club if we need to sign a big player (or parkin) or appoint a big manager to get some positivity round the club then we're fucked. I know support is in a two way thing, but the continuing spiral of negative reinforcement around the club seems to be unbreakable. A comfortable home win in front of a few thousand new season tickets on the opening day of the season would have probably put a bit more optimism around other clubs, but it doesn't seem to be the case for us.

So if we're playing the blame game, then you lot, us, the fans (well apart from me, I don't go to games), are higher up the list than Malpas and DB and JPM.

Well that's what my psychic brain is telling me. I can feel the negativity from the pub.

And will people stop pointing out that they have a right to an opinion. You give your opinion by writing out what you think in the very same post. Someone saying they disagree with you isn't the same as them saying you can't have your opinion.

Bloody hell Ben. Must be the beer  

[flammableBen]

Are you lot being sarcastic? Have I said something silly?

[janaage]

No mate, that was a really good post dude!  Honest, swear on my niece's life. it's hit the nail on the head for me!

[sonic youth]

Poor tactician

why? he's playing a pretty straightforward 442 that pretty much all the teams at this level use. nowhere near on par with king's crazy tactics... he's got a style of play that allows for the wingers to really get in the game.

no charisma

utterly irrelevent. king had charisma, sturrock had no charisma.

does not seem to be able to get the best of out of players/attract players to the club.

i'd argue that he's managed to get the best out of macnamee, a player who was going nowhere at watford but is an absolute star for us. likewise, he's continued to get ifil playing at a consistently high level. otherwise, i wouldn't say anyone is underachieving particularly...

as for attracting players to the club, did he sign macca? not sure. anyway, aside from missing out on jones and betsy what has he done wrong? we've bought in some decent players - timlin, nalis, marshall. who do you think we should sign? what signings would make you happy?

[janaage]

I've noticed that Bart is fucking good at asking questions and piss poor at answering them.  He's a flippin shit stirrer, of course imo.  And I don't understand why any STFC supporter would want to be such a thing.  There is no point in supporting a club if all you'll ever do is be negative about it.  There's no point in enjoying a past time, which going to football is, if you'll only ever be negative about it, there's no way you'll enjoy life if you're only ever negative about it. 

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

I've noticed that Bart is fucking good at asking questions and piss poor at answering them.  He's a flippin shit stirrer, of course imo.  And I don't understand why any STFC supporter would want to be such a thing.  There is no point in supporting a club if all you'll ever do is be negative about it.  There's no point in enjoying a past time, which going to football is, if you'll only ever be negative about it, there's no way you'll enjoy life if you're only ever negative about it. 

Some people don't have a life to enjoy though i guess Jan.

[flammableBen]

No mate, that was a really good post dude!  Honest, swear on my niece's life. it's hit the nail on the head for me!

Fair enough. Even with not attending games at the moment I still like to think that I have a vague idea of what's going on, and like to try and make a footballing point maybe once a week. I was a bit worried with that one though, very much a post based on feelings.

To expand a bit, there's the obvious negative shit stirring posts with no substance, like Barts OP in this thread and the general thisis fodder (although it's not as bad as people make out sometimes). But it's not just that, we're all guilty of it. Even after a win the conversations/debates on here seem to revert to the negatives, we're all so stuck in the "things are bad" mindset that it's the default topic. People who are doing there best to be positive still seem to feel the need to defend against the negative points before they're bought up, it's like it's just expected now.

I reckon that even if there were no anti-malpas or just shit stirring posts on here, people would still defend Malpas and the Management in their posts. It's become a habit, and a clear indication of the underlying negativity I was trying to point out in my first post. In fact there are probably a few threads kicking about which could be used as examples of it happening.

This is a bit of a Bart post to be honest, because I have no solution at all, or even anywhere to place all the blame. The booing brigade are an easy target, but it's naive to say it's all down to them, it's a problem which has spread itself through the whole fanbase. Shadowy mental cobwebs left over from the era of the greek is similarly easy to blame, but I think it's something which goes deeper than that.

Fuck knows, maybe a tidy promotion season from league two we can celebrate without the Sketchy Management Sword of Damocles hanging over our heads. It did sort of take the edge off the party last time.

To sum up, it's become a bit endemic and I have no sensible suggestions on how to solve the problem.

Right, no more essays. Don't encourage me. Maybe a university type could do a proper write up on group psyche or something.

[janaage]

I think back to the Springbok before the QPR match (and the play offs) a few seasons back, I think that's the last time when I felt 100% positive about the club, the pub being swarmed with town fans all singing "We love you Mooney..." over and over a real optimism was there, despite the financial shite, but since then the club has been over run with negativity, home matches are awful, people seem to be so against just getting behind the lads.

I really feel like going into the ticket office and asking to transfer my ticket back to the town end, just to try and add a voice to the atmosphere, sacrifice the view, the half time pint, the comfy seats (JJ in the enclosure have exec seats - nice).  Just to lose my voice every home match again.

Jesus I sound like a knob tonight.

[STFC_Gazzza]

Today people turned on the team not Malpas.

Spot on, and thats where the anger should go.

[strooood]

give him atleast the season.

if we go down who gives a shit, that promotion season in league 2 was the bollocks.

[janaage]

After a post earlier about Paul Sturrock I went on to the 606 site, Jeez he's a manager under pressure, the Plymuff fans are not happy with him at the minute.

[Rich Pullen]

After a post earlier about Paul Sturrock I went on to the 606 site, Jeez he's a manager under pressure, the Plymuff fans are not happy with him at the minute.

They're in a mess... Earlier this evening Jermaine Easter had a transfer request accepted aswell.

I watched Plymouth on TV earlier - they were dire. Sturrock's post-match interview wasn't inspiring either.

[sonic youth]

sturrock? inspiring? buhhhhhhhhhhh?

they were pretty shite, looked about as threatening as a kitten with a spork

[janaage]

Yeah but PS was Jesus Christ compared to Lucifer Malpas.  Come on fellas remember what a meadow of joy the CG was just 1 year ago?   What superb football he had us playing, the prossies he sent round to entertain the fans, the wonderous 5-4, 4-2, 7-3 victories, the endless comparisons to Brazil 70 we had to endure under his leadership?  Those were the days eh. 

Also cannot believe some are saying Martin Ling is the new messiah, that bloke has had a dreadful record since the turn of the year and is as popular as Nick Cotton in the East end at this moment in time.

[DV]

I'll be a condesending knob jockey and point out this time last year we were still unbeaten