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[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

and I can't imagine Hart would be either. Not to be an actual board member or anything anyway.

They're both criminals.

[Nemo]

You do realise Zav Austin is legally not allowed to do so.

That's literally the point.

To be fair on Day 1(ish), Clem did say that Zav would be involved as vice chair and this was why, in this statement which is slightly surprisingly still on the website: https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/club-statement---zavier-austin/

That was obviously walked back (a bit, publicly) when it was clear he wasn't going to pass fit and proper persons.

It's Hart and Kiely who have always been in the background.

[Pericardinho]

To be fair on Day 1(ish), Clem did say that Zav would be involved as vice chair and this was why, in this statement which is slightly surprisingly still on the website: https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/club-statement---zavier-austin/

That was obviously walked back (a bit, publicly) when it was clear he wasn't going to pass fit and proper persons.

It's Hart and Kiely who have always been in the background.

I get that, and I suspect if he did pass the fit and proper fans eventually would've just 'got on with it' as the poster above suggested. Whether they liked him or not.

But he didn't pass it. So the debate is pointless, as it could've never been a possibility.

[TailBetweenLegs]

You do realise Zav Austin is legally not allowed to do so.

That's literally the point.

He is legally allowed to work for the club. I know what the point is and have said the same. My point was if they had done it all the proper way not tried making him a chairman and all that bollocks and just given him a fancy title and not tried hiding everything after many would have moved on , that is the point i am making

[Pericardinho]

He is legally allowed to work for the club. I know what the point is and have said the same. My point was if they had done it all the proper way not tried making him a chairman and all that bollocks and just given him a fancy title and not tried hiding everything after many would have moved on , that is the point i am making

So give him a fancy title where he will ultimately just carry out vice chairman duties anyway on the sly?

You think that's the solution?

Not intentionally discrediting your opinion, just trying to see the angle you're coming from.

[Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG]

To be fair on Day 1(ish), Clem did say that Zav would be involved as vice chair and this was why, in this statement which is slightly surprisingly still on the website: https://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/2021/august/club-statement---zavier-austin/

That was obviously walked back (a bit, publicly) when it was clear he wasn't going to pass fit and proper persons.

It's Hart and Kiely who have always been in the background.

Kiely when asked "..................................he gives us good data" about two months later his mrs and her mate owns part of the club.

[horlock07]

I get that, and I suspect if he did pass the fit and proper fans eventually would've just 'got on with it' as the poster above suggested. Whether they liked him or not.

But he didn't pass it. So the debate is pointless, as it could've never been a possibility.

When did he not pass it, I suspect that going forward if Morfuni wanted to apply again if the conviction/sentence sits at a certain point within the 'spent conviction' spectrum would he pass?

[Peter Venkman]

When did he not pass it, I suspect that going forward if Morfuni wanted to apply again if the conviction/sentence sits at a certain point within the 'spent conviction' spectrum would he pass?

AFAIK he didn't pass it as he was never put in for the F&P at all as they knew he wouldnt pass.

[tans]

When did he not pass it, I suspect that going forward if Morfuni wanted to apply again if the conviction/sentence sits at a certain point within the 'spent conviction' spectrum would he pass?

Conviction for money laundering whether spent or not is an automatic fail i believe

Im sure someone will correct me if wrong

[Exiled Bob]

This will probably not go down well but i massively believe that if from day 1 Clem said look Zav Austin is involved he will be doing this etc etc yes i know his past and also i am employing Adam Hart he will be doing this etc etc it's my decision rather than the smoke and mirrors we have had the last 4 years fans would have been annoyed but ended up just getting on with it

To be fair to him, I think he did say that about Austin. If I recall correctly, Austin was the one that introduced him to Power, which ultimately led to him taking over the club. Morfuni promised Austin, in return, that he would be vice-chairmain. Once he was informed that it would not be possible, due to the Owners and Directors Test, he said that he (Austin) would only then be involved on an unofficial, voluntary, basis and was not employed by the club. I remember this being stated in one of the Trust Advisory Board Minutes.

Not sure about Hart, though.

(Edit - sorry - I hadn't seen Nemo's post above, which basically says the same thing).

[Batch]

That's not day 1 though Bob. That's after the takeover.

[Exiled Bob]

Yeah, agreed. But I don't think Morfuni has ever tried to hide his wishes to have Austin's involvement in the club.
Whether that is right or wrong is another issue.

[Batch]

I see what you are saying, but he didn't exactly make it known during the schmoozing of the fans and the Trusts 'due diligence' phase.

Or if he did, how having a convicted money laundere involved  didn't set alarm bells ringing I'll never know.

That said, any delay in the takeover might have killed the club.

[Exiled Bob]

Morfuni bought the club in July 2021. He made the Austin statement in August 2021. So that is pretty much "from day 1".

[Batch]

I'm counting day one as being "'transparent' in his takeover process, when gaining support from the trust and supporters club

It's pretty much day one after the fact. I don't disagree

It's pretty academic anyway, we've since gone to 'he's just a matchday guest' which is imo pretty unbelievable.