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« Reply #57045 on: Saturday, December 23, 2023, 11:41:14 » |
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Kemp is almost 25, he doesn't want to be languishing in the bottom tier if there's interest above that works for him so agree with the sentiment posted above, he'd be daft to join permanently unless he can walk away in the summer with ease (if things don't go well/to plan during the second half of the season).
Also, the notion of Kemp joining is all well and good but, as already proven, he can't do it alone. After two years of patching things together, there needs to be a strategy to build an entire squad.
I'd be perfectly happy if the compromise was Kemp joins with a non-promotion release clause for 300k in summer or something, that seems like a sensible way for us and him.
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« Reply #57046 on: Saturday, December 23, 2023, 11:58:38 » |
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If he joins us he will 100% be Jaiyesimi 2.0 and off to Pompey or somewhere before the August window slams shut. Chris Kiely spotted in a new Bentley shortly afterwards.
Or he could be Jack Payne, career stumbles abd he ends up back in L2 anyway. Any player with ambition will want to hear what the club is doing going forward. If he can bring himself to believe whatever Clem spins, he’ll stay.
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« Reply #57047 on: Sunday, December 24, 2023, 09:48:27 » |
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“Michael Flynn on Clem:
I like what he said, he is not sugarcoating things. We talked through targets, like I have done with Russell. We have made preliminary calls to club and we are hoping to get players in as soon as possible.
We are in a position to shape the squad, but unless the right ones are available then we will only look at shorter term deals. Some might fit into longer term, but we are open minded.”
From the presser today, so I’ve taken that as loans and short term contracts until the end of the season then?
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« Reply #57048 on: Sunday, December 24, 2023, 09:59:14 » |
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“Michael Flynn on Clem:
I like what he said, he is not sugarcoating things. We talked through targets, like I have done with Russell. We have made preliminary calls to club and we are hoping to get players in as soon as possible.
We are in a position to shape the squad, but unless the right ones are available then we will only look at shorter term deals. Some might fit into longer term, but we are open minded.”
From the presser today, so I’ve taken that as loans and short term contracts until the end of the season then?
Sensible way to do things don’t you think?
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« Reply #57049 on: Sunday, December 24, 2023, 10:02:04 » |
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Sensible way to do things don’t you think?
Depends on the player, more checking that I’ve interpreted that correctly
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« Reply #57050 on: Sunday, December 24, 2023, 10:11:53 » |
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Depends on the player, more checking that I’ve interpreted that correctly
You’ve clearly not thought this through. You don’t go dishing out long term contracts half way through the season and as others have alluded to the pickings mid way through are slimmer than at the start of the season. Especially with a lower league club budget. That is something you predominantly do in July & August if you have the money. All we need is some bodies to stabilise the ship. We don’t have the money to completely rebuild the team to challenge for automatic. At best we may scrape into the play offs. If we do scrape play offs how likely are we to win? If we could splurge and we still don’t go up you’re stuck with a load of players who would be STR. No, IMHO Flynn is right. Whoever is the owner start of 24/25 they’ll have to front the money to challenge because anything spent now is going to be and should be to prevent free fall. Arseholes and all that.
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« Reply #57051 on: Sunday, December 24, 2023, 10:22:39 » |
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You’ve clearly not thought this through. You don’t go dishing out long term contracts half way through the season and as others have alluded to the pickings mid way through are slimmer than at the start of the season. Especially with a lower league club budget. That is something you predominantly do in July & August if you have the money. All we need is some bodies to stabilise the ship. We don’t have the money to completely rebuild the team to challenge for automatic. At best we may scrape into the play offs. If we do scrape play offs how likely are we to win? If we could splurge and we still don’t go up you’re stuck with a load of players who would be STR. No, IMHO Flynn is right. Whoever is the owner start of 24/25 they’ll have to front the money to challenge because anything spent now is going to be and should be to prevent free fall. Arseholes and all that.
Did you even read my reply before writing that out arguing with yourself? Wrote all that out for nothing. But if we’re talking about it, yeah I do think it’s player dependent, if the right player comes up in Jan that can help us going forward then I would give out a longer deal probably based on certain triggers and options.
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« Reply #57052 on: Sunday, December 24, 2023, 10:50:28 » |
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Did you even read my reply before writing that out arguing with yourself? Wrote all that out for nothing.
But if we’re talking about it, yeah I do think it’s player dependent, if the right player comes up in Jan that can help us going forward then I would give out a longer deal probably based on certain triggers and options.
I never do. Do you not talk to yourself? No? You don’t know what you’re missing.
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« Reply #57053 on: Sunday, December 24, 2023, 11:44:36 » |
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I never do. Do you not talk to yourself? No? You don’t know what you’re missing.
My dear old Nan used to do that, when asked why she talked to herself her reply was "its the only way to have an intelligent conversation" 
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« Reply #57054 on: Sunday, December 24, 2023, 11:55:38 » |
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I never do. Do you not talk to yourself? No? You don’t know what you’re missing.
 But anyway going back to your points, they’ve got merit and I’ve said before the January window is a horrible time to have to do business. As you say, we’re unlikely to challenge automatics this season and play offs are a lottery if we even make them but that doesn’t mean Jan needs to be a short term vision window. Ideally if we were forward thinking we’d have an idea of what our squad and summer business will look like next season at least in profiles if not exact individuals and have some idea of priorities. Then the January window becomes a case of fine tuning the current seasons squad (with shorter term deals/loans) where urgently needed and having an eye to the next window where if a player that fits a profile we know we’ll need next season becomes available, we can be proactive and get them in now on a longer term deal with next season in mind. The window to window transfer strategy and only thinking about the now hampers us massively and we’re in this shitshow because of the car crash of the summer window.
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« Reply #57055 on: Sunday, December 24, 2023, 12:00:27 » |
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I never do. Do you not talk to yourself? No? You don’t know what you’re missing.
I never talk to myself, I sometimes swear at myself but never talk. My wife can have full conversations with herself, especially in the kitchen and thats before she has the Christmas port!
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« Reply #57056 on: Sunday, December 24, 2023, 17:33:15 » |
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 But anyway going back to your points, they’ve got merit and I’ve said before the January window is a horrible time to have to do business. As you say, we’re unlikely to challenge automatics this season and play offs are a lottery if we even make them but that doesn’t mean Jan needs to be a short term vision window. Ideally if we were forward thinking we’d have an idea of what our squad and summer business will look like next season at least in profiles if not exact individuals and have some idea of priorities. Then the January window becomes a case of fine tuning the current seasons squad (with shorter term deals/loans) where urgently needed and having an eye to the next window where if a player that fits a profile we know we’ll need next season becomes available, we can be proactive and get them in now on a longer term deal with next season in mind. The window to window transfer strategy and only thinking about the now hampers us massively and we’re in this shitshow because of the car crash of the summer window. Happy Christmas .
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« Reply #57057 on: Wednesday, December 27, 2023, 13:19:27 » |
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It looks like Bradford may have a dilemma with Young, their current strikers are scoring goals for them, assuming there are no current offers on the table for Young, do they bring him back in the short window they have to recall him and put him on the bench and not bring him on and see what offers they get for him during the transfer window and risk ending up with an unhappy player, or do they leave him on loan with us with a view to selling him in the summer when his value would have increased higher as he looks like he will continue to score goals ?
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« Reply #57058 on: Wednesday, December 27, 2023, 13:22:38 » |
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It looks like Bradford may have a dilemma with Young, their current strikers are scoring goals for them, assuming there are no current offers on the table for Young, do they bring him back in the short window they have to recall him and put him on the bench and not bring him on and see what offers they get for him during the transfer window and risk ending up with an unhappy player, or do they leave him on loan with us with a view to selling him in the summer when his value would have increased higher as he looks like he will continue to score goals ?
Runour is he is being sold to the other end of the A420 anyway. Their local radio certainly suggested it
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« Reply #57059 on: Wednesday, December 27, 2023, 13:28:19 » |
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Runour is he is being sold to the other end of the A420 anyway. Their local radio certainly suggested it
On yesterdays showing I would let them have him, on his earlier form I would love to keep him.
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