UPDATE ON PROTESTS

[Frasier3]

I'm afraid there was a good chance the numbers for a march would have been less than we hoped anyway. With so many people driving to the area around the ground (many from outside town) the prospect of then having to get to Farringdon Park to come all the way back again was in my opinion optimistic.

Yes its frustrating to have gone through 2.5 hours of debate on Monday and understandably some are confused and angry but unlike Monday we are now not yet facing the prospect of our last game so hopefully there is an opportuntity for independent fans to organise protests for the future.
 
The shoppers in the town centre don't need educating about the footie club. If they aren't interested or concerned by now they never will be. Protests need to be in the vicinity of those we want rid off . The back of the Arkells is a good place to start and fans are already there. Surely chants and banner demos before the team come out and at half time won't effect their performance?

Lastly is this forum the best place to air grievances?

[TalkTalk]

The shoppers in the town centre don't need educating about the footie club. If they aren't interested or concerned by now they never will be. Protests need to be in the vicinity of those we want rid off.

Sorry, I disagree.

In any campaign you use every avenue available to exert pressure on those that you want to change their stance.

The media is all powerful now. You play to them, you influence the public, you get the message rammed home.

You are suggesting that a town centre march (either this Saturday, for the next match or any time in the future) is a waste of time and I don't buy that.

[sonic youth]

sadly, the apathy of the general public is something that nothing could ever change. certainly not when it comes to the football club, which many see as a nuisance!

[deltaincline]

Not being funny like, but more than a few of you cunts need to fucking grow up fast.

Hissy fits, 'lovey' style public  resignations  from  the  trust  and  pathetic  in-fights over possible public protests with your cyber mates are not going to fucking solve stfc's problems overnight.

Look at the bigger picture, for fuck sake. Quit the selfish ego bollocks, shut the fuck up and stick together. Now is not the time to be falling out.

[TalkTalk]

Not being funny like, but more than a few of you cunts need to fucking grow up fast.

Hissy fits, 'lovey' style public  resignations  from  the  trust  and  pathetic  in-fights over possible public protests with your cyber mates are not going to fucking solve stfc's problems overnight.

Look at the bigger picture, for fuck sake. Quit the selfish ego bollocks, shut the fuck up and stick together. Now is not the time to be falling out.

Someone's tired.

What have you done so far then pal, apart from spout off on an Internet forum?

[Arriba]

fuck me that was an interesting read.nice to see the campers are happy.
onto the next thread then

[yeo]

Talk about being a patronising ****.

Its ok for you to air your views etc. but I can't air mine?

Youve got a nerve thats for sure.

that was my favourite post

[Frasier3]

The shoppers in the town centre don't need educating about the footie club. If they aren't interested or concerned by now they never will be. Protests need to be in the vicinity of those we want rid off.

Sorry, I disagree.

In any campaign you use every avenue available to exert pressure on those that you want to change their stance.

The media is all powerful now. You play to them, you influence the public, you get the message rammed home.

You are suggesting that a town centre march (either this Saturday, for the next match or any time in the future) is a waste of time and I don't buy that.

Talk Talk. I don't mind if you disagree but I could do without the pep talk about how to use the media. Ever wondered why direct action has become the preferred vehicle for some campaign groups against having a march?

Firstly a march is not a waste of time and yes it will get media coverage but so will other forms of legal protest and they could have a more direct effect,  even if not so media friendly.

There is no harm in influencing the public either but I think to much importance was placed on this aspect. We already have 6000+ fans. Perhaps we should concentrate on getting more of them active first before widening the base of opposition.

I simply don't think that for this Saturday the numbers we would like would appear, partly due to the practicalities of getting to the start point suggested and partly because others will take the view that they will go to the post match protest instead.

[Ironside]

The shoppers in the town centre don't need educating about the footie club. If they aren't interested or concerned by now they never will be. Protests need to be in the vicinity of those we want rid off.

Sorry, I disagree.

In any campaign you use every avenue available to exert pressure on those that you want to change their stance.

The media is all powerful now. You play to them, you influence the public, you get the message rammed home.

You are suggesting that a town centre march (either this Saturday, for the next match or any time in the future) is a waste of time and I don't buy that.

Talk Talk. I don't mind if you disagree but I could do without the pep talk about how to use the media. Ever wondered why direct action has become the preferred vehicle for some campaign groups against having a march?

Firstly a march is not a waste of time and yes it will get media coverage but so will other forms of legal protest and they could have a more direct effect,  even if not so media friendly.

There is no harm in influencing the public either but I think to much importance was placed on this aspect. We already have 6000+ fans. Perhaps we should concentrate on getting more of them active first before widening the base of opposition.

I simply don't think that for this Saturday the numbers we would like would appear, partly due to the practicalities of getting to the start point suggested and partly because others will take the view that they will go to the post match protest instead.

Faringdon Rd park can't be much more than a mile from the CG as the crow flies and people can walk or get a bus down.  

Its not rocket science FFS.

This Saturday probably won't go ahead (march wise) but the trust should still take the lead in organising it for the next home game.

[Fred Elliot]

the trust should still take the lead in organising it for the next home game.

AGREED 150%

[Arriba]

there is bound to be a large turnout behind the arkells on saturday.with the trusts backing the demo march pre donny will generate high numbers also

[Phil_S]

As I posted on another thread,  The way i see it now, a large protest at the back of the Arkells will make it a lot easier & more certain for a march before the Donny match. If people see that it isn't just 30-40 busy bodies then they will be much more confident in turning up for a march. One of the critical things about people turning up, is that they need to know that they won't look stupid, by being just one of a few. In some cases people are just too angry to care, but most prefer to be part of a crowd.

[Simon Pieman]

I agree Phil.

I also think a pre-game protest in the magic roundabout area will be a gentle reminder to anyone going to the game that people are still protesting despite the news and there will be people round the back of the Arkells.

[The_Plagiarist]

Out of interest, why the fuck is Sturrock going to change his stance on pre match protests? If he doesn't want them against tranmere he aint suddenly going to say go for it against doncaster belles.

[Reeves for King]

Ha. Is this the angriest thread we've ever had? Perhaps we should sort it with a poll (no-one hurt me if this has been suggested already).