UPDATE ON PROTESTS

[Simon Pieman]

We don't need leaders, we need organisers.

I haven't (And won't) slag off any Trust Board member (Although, as Mex intimated, I am indeed a twat).

All we need is some people that are local to liase with the police.

Why can't we just march off our own backs?

that's sort of the point i'm trying to make. i was not having a go at anyone - least of all mex - but it's a bit like having the rug pulled from beneath your feet. we had the momentum, the right people were organising the fine details, things were looking alright.

suddenly this has taken a drastic change of direction, i think people are rightly confused.

stuff like post match protests will happen naturally. organising a number of people to congregate in a specific location will not and requires someone to organise this but nobody is willing to take control.

I agree with all of that.

I'm annoyed that I can't really do much as I've had commitments this week that couldn't be dropped. Wish it was another story.

[Ironside]

I'm not particularly happy that the trust have made this decision on the back of the request from PS, however I can understand the reason they have backed off a pre-match protest for Saturday.

I think that a demonstration after the game will be sufficient to keep the pressure on the board for this weekend however, it should be made clear to them a march WILL be going ahead for the next home game. This will proceed  irrespective of any statements or requests from the club, short of the announcement that a full takeover of the club has happened (and I mean signed, sealed and delivered) and Mick the Bubble & Wills have gone. And it means I'll be able to make it too.

This means that the trust MUST release a statement prior to the Tranmere game stating that this is the case and should continue planning a march through town.  If the Trust aren't prepared to do this, then they can have no complaints whatsoever should fans decide to take independent action to get the message across.  There are some very inventive and resourceful people reading these forums!

The other ideas that were tabled were never going to happen however banners and signs on the Magic Roundabout this weekend should also go ahead but I wouldn't bother with putting any people there as well.  Banners inside the ground might be a good idea too.

Another idea for spreading the word:  
You see the signs at traffic lights for gigs, the circus, earn extra £ etc etc, a few hundred of these posted up on the main roads into the town centre will help.  They're cheap to sort and distribute and there's fuck all else to look at when you're stuck at a red.

[kevjoycreed]

I'm not particularly happy that the trust have made this decision on the back of the request from PS, however I can understand the reason they have backed off a pre-match protest for Saturday.

I think that a demonstration after the game will be sufficient to keep the pressure on the board for this weekend however, it should be made clear to them a march WILL be going ahead for the next home game. This will proceed  irrespective of any statements or requests from the club, short of the announcement that a full takeover of the club has happened (and I mean signed, sealed and delivered) and Mick the Bubble & Wills have gone. And it means I'll be able to make it too.

This means that the trust MUST release a statement prior to the Tranmere game stating that this is the case and should continue planning a march through town.  If the Trust aren't prepared to do this, then they can have no complaints whatsoever should fans decide to take independent action to get the message across.  There are some very inventive and resourceful people reading these forums!

The other ideas that were tabled were never going to happen however banners and signs on the Magic Roundabout this weekend should also go ahead but I wouldn't bother with putting any people there as well.  Banners inside the ground might be a good idea too.

Another idea for spreading the word:  
You see the signs at traffic lights for gigs, the circus, earn extra £ etc etc, a few hundred of these posted up on the main roads into the town centre will help.  They're cheap to sort and distribute and there's fuck all else to look at when you're stuck at a red.

 :toppost:

A simple demand for some facts backed up with the promise of action if facts are not forthcoming.

[redbullzeye]

the problem is that the two people organising it were trust board members, now they're not involved and have removed their backing altogether.

this has left us without anyone to lead and organise and it's also left a few of us rather bemused by the trust's actions.

 As a political activist of the 70's and 80's if I didn't know better I'd say, the Trust Board had been got at and sold out its membership.....a classic of the time being Joe Gormley, who was NUM president in the mid 70's when the Heath Government was brought down, but was in fact working for MI5.

Fucking hell Reg, that's a bit harsh even for a left wing agitator, unless you're taking the piss.

[Reg Smeeton]

Would I do that?   I'm just trying to offer an explanation for SY's dilemma, but lets face what wouldn't  Paul Davis do for a years supply of black pudding and a van load of knock off fags....Mex a steady stream of Spanish teenagers....Talk Talk a life's supply of denim...and Fred a barrel of Tia Maria.

[redbullzeye]

I'm going to have a chat with Mex - he surely can't handle them all on his own

[TalkTalk]

But lets face what wouldn't  Paul Davis do for a years supply of black pudding

Paul is a vegetarian Reg.

Try a lifetime's supply of plastic trainers instead.

[Bennett]

is paul honestly a vegetarian?

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

This whole thing is becoming silly. Almost to the point where i am even considering not even bothering to turn up at the game or any protests on Saturday. The statement from the Trust today is letting the board of the hook a little. It's a real shame because now they are winning again. They have us fans divided which is exactly what they wanted. I bet Mickey D and Co are reading these boards with comfort this evening.

We have (or possibly now had) the chance to really get to them on Saturday. Whether we will or not remains to be seen. I still want to protest. I probably will. We have to keep the anti board stuff rolling. I don't think many will turn up behind the Arkells though. This whole thread has nearly knocked the stuffing out of me though to the point where i almost can't be bothered at all.

[redbullzeye]

is paul honestly a vegetarian?

I think he's a vegan, which sounds vaguely nordic

[yeo]

is paul honestly a vegetarian?

I think he's a vegan, which sounds vaguely nordic

 

YEP course he is..

Bennet expect to bold by the time you are 40.

Nut roasts recede you hair line pal....

[Bennett]

is paul honestly a vegetarian?

I think he's a vegan, which sounds vaguely nordic

 

YEP course he is..

Bennet expect to bold by the time you are 40.

Nut roasts recede you hair line pal....

bugger, i knew i wore hats a lot for a reason!

[Ironside]

This whole thing is becoming silly. Almost to the point where i am even considering not even bothering to turn up at the game or any protests on Saturday. The statement from the Trust today is letting the board of the hook a little. It's a real shame because now they are winning again. They have us fans divided which is exactly what they wanted. I bet Mickey D and Co are reading these boards with comfort this evening.

We have (or possibly now had) the chance to really get to them on Saturday. Whether we will or not remains to be seen. I still want to protest. I probably will. We have to keep the anti board stuff rolling. I don't think many will turn up behind the Arkells though. This whole thread has nearly knocked the stuffing out of me though to the point where i almost can't be bothered at all.

Your right.

I want to protest and send the message out.  The message being Mick the Bubble & Wills have had their time and have to go.

We must get the same level that we had at the Cheltenham game this Saturday.

The trust MUST do what I said in my last post or they can forget about my, and many other support.  The politics of the situation are now well and truly finished.

Like I said earlier, Mick the Bubble & Wills have to go, sooner, rather than later. There is no later. STOP BEING GREEDY THIEVING CUNTS and FUCK OFF.

The fact that the fans are protesting AGAINST the current board should give the "new investors" nothing but hope, unless of course they're simply a "front" for the current board (which I think they probably are).

[Simon Pieman]

The Board may feel they've got the upper hand. If we turn up with the right attitude and enough people they will be surprised.

[axs]

My Two Cents.

The trust board was elected by its members. Today they took an executive decision. I have two points of view on it. First is that we all (i think) consider Paul Sturrock to be our best manager for a long time and respect his choices and opinions on the whole. Second is that we all feel strongly about the situation the club is currently in and desperately want to DO something to change it.

This leaves me at a crossroads, i want both. I want PS to back the protests but that is not feasible and he will never publically state that. With him saying that protests are not a good idea before the game I am inclined to both agree with him (we support you and the team)  and disagree with him (I wanna show my feelings about the board). Unfortunately it is contradictory in the current situation.

Most regular posters on here are friends and it cuts me up to see you fighting. It really does. We all want the same thing, but some of you have political responsibility to uphold and cannot release your innner raggghhh (technical term).

We have an opportunity here to do two things by protesting with trust support:

a) Show our feelings to the board
b) piss off the rest of the fanbase that (gullible or stupid as they may be perceived to be) will never then show support to any trust backed protests.

I honestly believe that the solution (as much as there can be one within our grasp) lies in three things:

a) Back the team on Saturday - with all our might. I mean even the Arkells singing.
b) Protest on Saturday - whether it be after the game outside the Arkells, before the game with banners on the MR, whatever, take your pick and FFS just do it. But blend in a bit of pro-Sturrock / team stuff.
c) Continue to support the trust as they work towards an organised protest at the next home game.

It's never going to be ideal for everyone but it's all I can think of, and it's what I will be doing. I have the utmost respect for those on the TRUST board and even those who stood for it because you have passion, and that is what we all try to have in common for STFC.

I hope to see you all on Saturday, before, during or after the match. Remember that we all have our own ideas about this so just do what feels right to you, but for God's sake, just do something.

Fuck me that was preachy, I've had too much wine. Can you delete this mods?